Why Video Game Designers Are Missing The Mark With Women

[Loriac]

Well the commercial payoff is that the company gets to retain female talent and is then at an advantage when it comes to making products that sell to women. 50% of the market is a little bit too big to just forego because of the inconveniences of managing employee leave.

More of the standard PC bullshit. You either make games for men, or you make games for women. The two categories don't overlap much, and where they do its mostly deviants. MMOs are a weird exception to this, as they don't appeal to men or women per se, they are designed to appeal to those with addictive personalities and aren't true 'games' as such.

But yes, I agree completely that leave should be equal. In most first world nations, leave can either be taken by father or mother, and often by both. It's one of those things that is (a) unfair but (b) good for the economy. It's unfair because working class folks subsidise the children of wealthier professionals. It's good for the economy and society because it lessens the skewing of birthrate towards the impoverished - in many countries there's a serious problem wherein the only folk having lots of kids are those who are too poor and illeducated to afford them. Parental leave alleviates that. You can throw free university education (or cheap and massively subsidised loans that get built into your income tax, as in Australia) - it sure as hell isn't fair for brickies and cleaners to pay for middle class kiddies to go to uni or trade school to earn an even BIGGER income gap. But it's really good for the economy and standard of living so we do it anyway.

utter bullshit. single (usually male) employees subsidise the time off of the women with children in the office. Men rarely take up paternal holiday entitlements as it would massively affect their promotion chances. The middle classes pay so much more tax in a 'progressive' tax system that the amounts paid 'back' for schooling is a small drop in the bucket.

Incentives for female workers aren't there because they deserve special treatment. It's because they help the company, and hence the economy. Shit, a law firm invests around $200,000 into the professional education of a young lawyer - formal ongoing education, time wasted teaching them how to draft common contracts, supervising them and holding their hand through cases that are really basic but that they think are ultra complex....you have to do it for every single articled clerk and rp you hire, no matter what. 60% of law students over here are women - if you want to hire the best young lawyers, you're going to be hiring a lot of women. Do you REALLY want to be flushing all that money down the toilet by having them leave their careers when they have kids? No way - not when the costs of a few months parental leave and a child care centre are pretty much petty cash compared to the amount you're spending training them, and the amount that they'll be earning for you if they then stick with you for the next 20 years out of loyalty. And if you can get the rep as 'the best place for female lawyers to work' there's huge financial rewards to be had, as you can take your pick of the best law grads without having to compete on salary.

You should look up the rates at which women drop out of profession such as law. I think the average law career of a woman currently stands at 10 years.

Incentives in these cases are pure affirmative action.

Its not just law. The other professions such as medicine etc also see a major drop-out from women in their 30s and 40s as they decide to raise families instead.

I've seen it with my female friends in a number of professions. If they're worth keeping, firms will bend over backwards to carry them through childbirth, because it's good for the firm. The only industries where it doesn't happen are those which are so forcused around art or mechanical production or something other than selling product that they don't structure themselves with profit first and foremost in mind. I suspect gaming falls into that latter category.

You don't think this has anything to do with self interest, i.e. the companies don't want to get fucked over in the courts for discrimination therefore, they go the whole hog in trying to show that they support these things.

Also, note that the people bending over backwards are the other employees in the office who have to do more work to cover the absence. This is usually unpaid in salaried professions.

Now think about gaming where you've got a huge untapped female market. On top of that, whilst your law firm's clients have pretty much the same needs regardless of whether their CEO is male or female, we simply don't know whether girl gamers are going to want the same things as guys in the long run. Not saynig they don't - just saying we don't know yet. Yeah, there's money to be had by enticing female designers and keeping them post childbearing.That's a different matter to pregnancy leave.

Quite possibly true, but women need different games entirely to be made for them. Just as you see womens' magazines vs. mens' magazines, you will have a similar split for games. If you try and mix the two, you'll get neither customer base.

I also think there might be a US/Aust skewing here in terms of how much leave is significant. Over in Australia, young professionals take off to tour the world as backpackers for a year or so all the fucking time. By comparison, a woman who lost 6 months working experience due to pregnancy isn't at all disadvantaged when it comes to professional experience. When I did my backpacking sojourn, the Americans I ran into were always weirded out by the Aussies and Germans travelling for 6-12months, as they couldn't get more than a few weeks of travelling without it being seen as wasting time that should be spent getting commercial experience. I can see how that might make preganancy leave less practical.

In truth I think its all the other things to do with pregnancy that makes companies dislike this on resumes. In particular, the impact on other employees is significant during maternal leave absences, as is the overall loss of productivity from the new mother (fewer office hours, less reliable attendence etc).

 

[Azrael the cat]

Unrelated observation:

Strong woman characters in books, films, games - I like.
But in real life its really hard to cope with them. It feels as if I cant let my guard down like with men...

In all seriousness, go there. You won't EVER want to go back. Strong women - and I mean genuinely emotional strong women, not women who just get aggressive due to emotional problems and hence quickly turn weak and sulky or tantrumy if you don't play ball - make the best girlfriends, wives and even the best one-night-stands. They're the girls who have thought long and hard about how much sex they want to be having, so they aren't feeling guilty while having it. They're also MUCH more likely to be sufficiently comfortable with their sexuality to look up porn and masturbate. That means much more kinky sex, and a girl who orgasms more easily. A girl that orgasms more easily means that you're getting laid a LOT more often - probably at every opportunity she gets if you're both around 17-21.

As a girlfriend, they're less likely to have emotional hangups about who they want to be. Which means no sudden personality swapping next time they meet a new group of friends or change uni courses, It also means that there's much less time with them crying about their insecurities and much more time with them calling up asking 'hey, you up for going to the pub and getting drunk / going raving / having sex all night?'

As a wife, they're still likely to be more stable and have thought through the whole thinkg of whether they want to get married, They aren't married because they simply expected to one day, or because it was their life's dream to walk down the isle (and now that it's over they're feeling rather hollow with what to do next - trust me, I've seen this with friend's wives). No, they're likely to be with you through thick and thin because they married out of a conscious decision that they wanted to spend the rest of their lives living with and fucking only you. They made that choice knowing they had other options, and so they aren't going to suddenly wake up to those optoins 10 years in (again, I've seen that disaster in friends' marriages). They're also MUCH more likely to be earning good money, supporting your gaming habit, and demanding good sex, which means having lots more sex.

Trust me, breaking your aversion to strong women will be one of the best things you will EVER do.

Brah, I trust you as one can only trust internet people. That being said, you are generalizing like there is no tomorrow. Including anecdotal evidence and an overly long text.

First. Strong and weak are not binary in the real world. I am weak sometimes.

Second. I knew 2 strong women. Both are neutral chaotic. Thats as low as a human being can get, like me. If they are intelligent to boot, there is no fucking with them.

Third. Sex has abso-fucking-lutely no correlation with an emotional stable character whatsoever.

Last. Even if they are "super-strong", they wont go with you through thick and thin if they decide not to. Mistakes are made sometimes. And nobody wants to fuck the same dude their whole life. From my anecdotal experience, long lasting marriages are about loyalty and comfort. Strong character doesnt help there. It makes them independent.

I remember you being super awesomely married with a super woman. I also remember you earning less than her. No wonder that you have written that post about her...
... and gambling habits...

Gaming habits, not gambling habits.

And of course it's a fucking opinion piece backed by purely anectodal and generalised claims - it's a fucking internet forum you douche, not an academic journal. It's just a piece of advice based purely on personal experience. Other folks' personal experience may differ. By all means share if that is the case and we can all be the richer for it. I personally, am happy being having constantly dated strong, confident individuals and eventually married one. Maybe you've been burnt doing the same. By all means tell me your story if that's what your want. Doesn't negate mine, just like mine doesn't negate yours. I'm not slamming anyone for not following my advice - just giving it because it's worked for me. Just like I'd advise young folks going to uni to do a double degree if possible, making one something with a clear and guaranteed career, and the other something generalised in the humanities, sciences or business. Doesn't mean it's the only fucking path to success, nor that I think it will work for everyone. But I'm really fucking glad I did it, and so I'd recommend the same to others.

Oddly enough, I don't tend to have quite so dogmatic views about games here either. I enjoyed FO and Deus Ex, so I'd recommend them to folks. But I'm not going to crucify them for liking Street Fighter and Quake instead, nor for playing Deus Ex and hating it. I guess that's the difference between us.

When your advice is fucking useless it deserves to be mocked, your 'personal experiences' and 'feelings' notwithstanding.

Well, that's the thing - I don't think it is useless. I don't think it is the one and only 'key' to happiness - if anything could ever exist -either. But it is something which has made me a happy guy, which isn't a bad thing among the misery of the emasculated modern age.

Don't get me wrong - I'm ALL for men being men. I live in a country that bans guns, so I won't talk of those online, but I have racks of swords, tiger-forks, grand batons (my weapon of choice) fighting canes and 20 years of competitive boxing, kickboxing, kung fu and savate behind me. Yes, that's a lot of epeen that is totally unprovable (but if there's anyone in Australia who wants to call plane tickets bitch, then we can have some fun with it - I'll say gloves and amateur boxing helms so that we don't get criminally charged, but we can negotiate whether it's boxing, MMA or kickboxing), so please let me make clear that I'm not saying 'hey guys, I'm fucking tough'. I'm saying men should be men.

But, I allso love the fact that I have a wife who is willing to attend my self-defence/martial arts (what a wanky fucking term that is) classes, and who has been willing for me to teach her to be competent with most of our weapons, including improvisational canes/umbrellas so that I can be confident she can defend herself were she attacked while I wasn't there. My wife would get her ass kicked by any serious male combatant, but she could put up enough of a fight to drastically increase her chances of escaping a rape attempt and I can use her as evidence to the young girls that come to training to show that whilst they won't be able to beat a solid competition-fit male, they can certainly get good enough to break a kneecap and escape if attacked. I'd hardly call that bad advice.

I'd also hardly call it bad advice to go out with people without emotional hangups. Fuck I made that mistake during my early uni days. I thought it was great to have a girl who was emotionally dependant on me. It was the one relationship where I was cheated on. Here's a generalisation I WILL stand by. A girl OR guy who completely lacks selfconfidence will cheat because it proves to them that (a) they're attractive and (b) they can attain some degree of power. Someone with confidence 'might' cheat, BUT (a) they are more likely to be open and agree to a non-monogomous relationship where no-one's getting hurt, and (b) if the sex is good enough to satisfy them they won't go cheat simply to boost their ego.

Every guy or girl after that I made clear that I couldn't give a shit about social standards of monogamy - just don't deceive each other if we're going to care about each other. Since then I've had several relationships and I don't regret any. Maybe that isn't a universal recipe. People have different tastes - no shit sherlock. But for me it worked, and I'd advice folks to stay clear of relationships with people who have emotional baggage. Not a universal strategy to success, but I'd hardly call it shit either.

Confidence in a career translates into confidence in life. I've got plenty of female friends who I graduated from law school with many years ago who are now earning big money in big firms. They always tell me how frustrated they get that guys are intimiated by their incomes - that they couldn't care less if they have to support their boyfriend. After all, they studied and worked hard so that they didn't have to marry for money, and they can easily afford it. But when they do go out with someone who is unemployed, it ends in misery - not because she gets upset with him, but because he is so low on self-esteem that he drags both of them down. So I don't think it's bad advice to say go out with someone strong, who is confident in their own career. It isn't going to work for everyone - some guys LIKE to be the 'sole provider'. But it isn't shit either.

Finallly, when you come to marriage, remember that every hangup your wife has is going to be passed on to your daughters and maybe even your sons. If you marry someone emotionally strong and stable, you'll not only save yourself many arguments, but your children are likely to be better off for it. Again, that isn't going to work for everyone. Some folks want to bring up daughters who are 'ladylike' and will seek a husband to support them. Personally I'd rather my daughters grow up to be independent, so they can take a husband if they want, but that with all the fuckwits out there they never get pressured into marrying for money, and they can send an abusive/cheating bastard out on his ass without having to worry about no longer having his income (when I worked in criminal law I saw so many cases where badly battered women - women whose partners have gone to work on them with fucking crowbars - would drive their boyfriends to my office and to court, because they NEEDED his income to support their kids - a fucking travesty).

Finally, by strong I'm not talking about someone with a temper, or stubborn. I'm talking about someone who is emotionally well-balanced, financially independent and confident. I'd consider myself a financially well-off, independent and confident guy. Why would I want anything less in a partner? Again, none of this is the fucking key to life.

And yes, I'm part stating the obvious and entirely relying on anecdotes. I wasn't the one that blew this thing up into a fucking ongoing discussion. All I wanted to do was point out that strong women without emotional hangups can be great for strong guys who don't want to put up with someone's prior baggage. Yes it's a fucking stupid thing to turn into a multi-post argument on a gaming forum. But I don't think it's mockworthy in itself as advice - I'd say it's stating the fuckling obvious. If you want to mock it as that, then be my guest, I'll agree.

And yes, I appreciate there ARE guys who like emotionally fragile girls, or girls with lots of emotional baggage, or girls who are completely co-dependent. If that's your thing I'm not knocking any of that. You obviously know your type and if it makes you happy then stick with it. All I was saying is don't avoid strong (and by that I mean emotionally well-balanced and independent) women out of fear or instinctive adverse reaction. Because I, and plenty of other, folk have really really enjoyed their romantic company.

Anecdotal and stating the obvious, Fucking yeah. But not stupid.

Tl;dr lots of folks have different tastes. I'm not knocking yours. But there's nothing inconsistent about being a strong guy and so wanting a strong girl to match.

 

[Raghar]

Geez it"s not rocket science (or a fucking humanities major). Train lots more women designers. Hire them. Let them design games. Then you get games for all sorts of women - all sorts of PEOPLE - will like, with regard to their presentation of women: games for women who want.

I can tell you how that would end: Yaoi, Yaoi, and Yaoi.

(In case you don't know what that means, do google image search. And be prepared to see something you will not be able to unsee for a while.)

 

[Stalin]

fucking wall of text faggots go write a book

 

[Drakron]

Oh great, two dumbfucks argue ...

Loriac lessons on feminism apparently ended before the sexual revolution as Azrael is just a bizarro counter-point.

 

[Loriac]

Oh great, two dumbfucks argue ...

Loriac lessons on feminism apparently ended before the sexual revolution as Azrael is just a bizarro counter-point.

Great, some mangina drops in to show us how he has no balls so he can better respect his tranny girlfriend and her strap on

 

[mondblut]

Well the commercial payoff is that the company gets to retain female talent...

tl;dr

The commercial payoff is to only hire men and sterilized women then, who will, you know, actually work and not twiddle their thumbs for a couple of years being pregnant and taking care of their spawn while leeching the company dry for money.

An employer doesn't and shouldn't give a fucking shit about somebody's pregnancy, unless he personally impregnated the employee in question. Employees are people who get paid for doing their job. She who doesn't do her job is not an employee any longer for the time being and isn't entitled to shit. Case closed.

and is then at an advantage when it comes to making products that sell to women.

This is something an all-female company should long to do. Yet I'd love to see *them* paying leave when half the company at any given time is about to or had just popped up another piglet. I wonder who would actually do the fucking job?

It's not enough they exploit their men (these unfortunates had it coming) and their nanny state (with all the talk about needing new citizens, it got to put its money where its mouth is), should they also exploit complete strangers just because those were naive enough to sign them up for some job without tearing out their womb first? YEAH FUCKING RIGHT.

 

[toro]

Taking about strong women in RL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Travers

Azrael the cat that doesn't give a shit about anything, except for his wife that is strong ... just stating the obvious :D

 

[StrangeCase]

This thread makes me very uncomfortable in my no-no place.

 

[space odyssey]

I wasn't the one that blew this thing up into a fucking ongoing discussion.

Heh, not a bad read, but isn't just one of your regular posts an ongoing discussion in itself.

As for women developing for women, and getting in on that market an existing example is Her Interactive, that make Nancy Drew adventure games and do pretty damn well out of them I believe. Someone was interviewed by the guy who did the recent Tim Cain review.

They're an example of an earlier comment that feminizing games makes the main male audience lose interest. I would agree. Games should cater to wide audiences. Games, plural. Games made for specific markets have a chance at satisfying those customers, the ever growing quest for the all inclusive easily accessible casual hardcore game leads to the horseshit we get flung at us most of the time.

Its like going to make the ultimate porno, start with some hot ass chicks in some quality hetero hardcore action, couples, threesomes, gangbangs any combo they can think of. Then all the same entirely with chicks, then gay guys, then some golden showers and other piss porn, then some shit eating/swapping/fucking scat porn, then some bestiality, then some tastefully done rape scenes and finish off with some good snuff porn.

There maybe something in this that damn near everyone can enjoy, but there's also something there to turn everyone off except for some glorious omnisexual. This is the kinda thing I see with the crappy hybrid rpgs that are all we seem to get lately, this isn't broad appeal, its appealing to a broad range of tastes and niches and that is not the same thing at all.

A truly broad appeal gets distilled down to only the things that everybody likes if possible, which leads us to shitty pure lowest common denominator shit games.

tl;dr Games for girls, games for guys, everybody's happy, plus this awesome romantic thriller I'm working on

 

[Andhaira]

Women, women never change.

 

[Azrael the cat]

Well the commercial payoff is that the company gets to retain female talent...

tl;dr

The commercial payoff is to only hire men and sterilized women then, who will, you know, actually work and not twiddle their thumbs for a couple of years being pregnant and taking care of their spawn while leeching the company dry for money.

An employer doesn't and shouldn't give a fucking shit about somebody's pregnancy, unless he personally impregnated the employee in question. Employees are people who get paid for doing their job. She who doesn't do her job is not an employee any longer for the time being and isn't entitled to shit. Case closed.

and is then at an advantage when it comes to making products that sell to women.

This is something an all-female company should long to do. Yet I'd love to see *them* paying leave when half the company at any given time is about to or had just popped up another piglet. I wonder who would actually do the fucking job?

It's not enough they exploit their men (these unfortunates had it coming) and their nanny state (with all the talk about needing new citizens, it got to put its money where its mouth is), should they also exploit complete strangers just because those were naive enough to sign them up for some job without tearing out their womb first? YEAH FUCKING RIGHT.

I'm not talking about adding in anything unusual or exceptional here. Just the industry standard. You seem to forget that Australia works very differently to the US, and it is in part why we have a higher standard of living. One of the main election issues this year is the two parties fighting over whose mandatory pregnancy leave is the most generous. Our conservative party - they're called liberals (to differentiate them from labour), but they're our equivalent of the US Republicans - are mandating compulsory leave of up to 6 months taken at full pay, paid for by a levy on the company tax. It can be taken by either the man or the woman or split between both.The person taking leave MUST be given their old position back, and is not allowed to be discriminated against in terms of future promotions. If they are, a government body will pay all costs of investigation and prosecution of the company involved - the woman just has to sit back and collect the damages payout. That is our equivalent of the REPUBLICAN party - the one that's all for small government, big business and free enterprise.

The US way isn't the only way, and our way works just fine for us over here.

 

[Azrael the cat]

Geez it"s not rocket science (or a fucking humanities major). Train lots more women designers. Hire them. Let them design games. Then you get games for all sorts of women - all sorts of PEOPLE - will like, with regard to their presentation of women: games for women who want.

I can tell you how that would end: Yaoi, Yaoi, and Yaoi.

(In case you don't know what that means, do google image search. And be prepared to see something you will not be able to unsee for a while.)

I know what it means, and the strains of Metallica's 'sad but true' are running through my head.

 

[mondblut]

The US way isn't the only way, and our way works just fine for us over here.

Fucking commies. No wonder the one and only australian creation of note takes over 13 years to develop.

Why wouldn't your marxist nanny state just admit it and fund the breeding sows directly instead of this hypocrite "paid for by a levy on the company tax" crap?

 

[Awor Szurkrarz]

and a lot of female gamers like slutty female characters.

How many female gamers liked the sex cards in the the witcher? Female gamers are turned off by various things that males are amused by. the slutty female characters thing I can understand though, its a way to attention whore in an mmo. My experience of MMOs (i've not played them in a few years now however) is that the real women playing them are grade a attention whores.

Except that sex cards have nothing to do with the player character character. There's a difference between playing an super-sexy character of the same gender and getting collectible erotic pictures of characters of the same gender.
Females that want to play slutty looking fighter females do it even in single player games, because they want to imagine themselves as oversexed characters.
Apparently playing a character with practically looking armour would take away their self-esteem or something like that.

 

[Loriac]

and a lot of female gamers like slutty female characters.

How many female gamers liked the sex cards in the the witcher? Female gamers are turned off by various things that males are amused by. the slutty female characters thing I can understand though, its a way to attention whore in an mmo. My experience of MMOs (i've not played them in a few years now however) is that the real women playing them are grade a attention whores.

Except that sex cards have nothing to do with the player character character. There's a difference between playing an super-sexy character of the same gender and getting collectible erotic pictures of characters of the same gender.
Females that want to play slutty looking fighter females do it even in single player games, because they want to imagine themselves as oversexed characters.
Apparently playing a character with practically looking armour would take away their self-esteem or something like that.

If you say so, my understanding is that women tend to play either MMOs or 'casual' games. Relatively very few play single player games that appeal to guys.

On the topic of the Witcher, whats the betting that Witcher 2 removes the card collectibles in an attempt to pacify the feminist harpies that screeched about how it demeaned women?

 

[Humanity has risen!]

Enough already.

 

[Annie Mitsoda]

Ah, Codex. Nothing like five pages of manchildren wailing about women whom they likely have only the minimum of contact with, and dudes who think they're some kind of comedic genius by trotting out the "bitch make me a SANDWICH" line. There may be some kind of smart hidden here, but after this long - I mean christ, FIVE PAGES - really? That's it? Hidden in this miasma of misogynistic fuckwittery?

aaaaaaaaaaaand you wonder why I don't post much? Truly.
Oh Codex. You make me LOL. I can't quit you.

 

[Loriac]

Ah, Codex. Nothing like five pages of manchildren wailing about women whom they likely have only the minimum of contact with, and dudes who think they're some kind of comedic genius by trotting out the "bitch make me a SANDWICH" line. There may be some kind of smart hidden here, but after this long - I mean christ, FIVE PAGES - really? That's it? Hidden in this miasma of misogynistic fuckwittery?

aaaaaaaaaaaand you wonder why I don't post much? Truly.
Oh Codex. You make me LOL. I can't quit you.

http://exposingfeminism.wordpress.com/shaming-tactics/

code blue
code green
code tan
and a hint of code orange as to why you no longer post here

but nice to see you posting here again

 

[StrangeCase]

Don't you think it's a little shady to refute someone's post by pointing out fallacies after having made ~6 posts of your own full of even more exaggerated fallacies?

 

[Loriac]

Don't you think it's a little shady to refute someone's post by pointing out fallacies after having made ~6 posts of your own full of even more exaggerated fallacies?

This thread makes me very uncomfortable in my no-no place.

Code Orange.

Didn't mean to make you feel left out.


Feel free to point out any of my fallacies if you like.

 

[Humanity has risen!]

Nice to see you recognize shaming language when you see it, Loriac.

The results of pandering to women aren't pretty.

Dragon Age is full of that. It's so obvious that female writers are responsible for a whole lot of the faggotery meant to make it more woman-friendly.

First off with Alistair who's the biggest mangina ever.

There's stuff like "in Ferelden soldiers are made out of 50% of men and women". How realistic is that to even have female fighters or have them wear a full plate armor?

Reasons like these are why I like Piranha Bytes' games so much, they're the epitome of manliness. It's a true brotherhood and there are absolutely no women who don't know their place, except in Risen but even then she ultimately ends up being a damzel in distress.

This is the biggest load of bullshit ever, as many of you have already said tell me that women don't WANT to be objectified and passive because it gets them admired and improves their self-esteem.

If that wasn't true Twilight wouldn't sell to millions of copies. No one forces them to buy it, and yet they do on their own. Because that's what they love.

It gets them off because they feel that their sexuality is powerful. Take Bayonetta, the whole game is based around that concept.

Let gaming be a man's den apart from match-3 games.

 

[Drakron]

... There may be some kind of smart hidden here, but after this long - I mean christ, FIVE PAGES - really?

What is there to discuss?

What that article is the same BS feminism were women are "sexualized" on videogames and so they dont play videogames.

RIIIIIIGT!

There is really nothing to talk about it, its a logical fallacy to start with and a old one at that.

 

[Humanity has risen!]

Soooo true, that's just yet more feminist BS.

It's simple why women won't play games:

1-They have no drive to be heroic and to compete/excel.

And mostly

2-They don't like anything that's complicated.

 

[StrangeCase]

Code Orange.

Didn't mean to make you feel left out.

Feel free to point out any of my fallacies if you like.

Let's see, Code Orange... elevated threat? It's not really a question of feeling threatened, because lots of people are way better at bullying rhetoric than Codexers. It was more of a wry, irrelevant one-liner, which is a different logical fallacy, red herring/appeal to ridicule. I don't know what code color that fits under.

I must decline your invitation to repost what you've already written and comment on how it's fallacious. I'm not convinced you're actually interested in a discussion, and I'm not going to post more than a few paragraphs just for laughs.