Wasteland The Wasteland 2 Beta Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[felipepepe]

We intend to ship in a way that coincides as best as we can with the release date. Obviously there is a great amount of variance in shipping depending on where you are located, of course. That is the plan, though, not a guarantee.

Last Amazon order I made took 48 days to arrive. I hope you guys respect your HUEHUE fans.

 

[tuluse]

Last Amazon order I made took 48 days to arrive. I hope you guys respect your HUEHUE fans.

I read that as hours at first @_@

 

[Sensuki]

Does Unity have another project of this scale which has much better performance?

I wonder about abstraction bloat.

I've played four Unity games so far: Expeditions: Conquistador, Shadowrun Returns, Verdun and Wasteland 2. E:C and SRR ran good, with the occasional hiccup (usually 120fps+). Verdun ran okay, but it was like a very early alpha version. WL2 has the most horrible performance out of any game I have played since NWN2.

And yeah D:OS load times are pretty long. Reminds me of loading Civ 4.

 

[Volrath]

D:OS load times last about 10 seconds max for me...

 

[buzz]

Well you probably have a great CPU and a giant amount of RAM. I have a Core 2 Duo and only 2gigs of RAM but D:OS is pretty much the only game with which I had any kinds of trouble up to this point.

 

[Infinitron]

I have slightly worse performance with D:OS, although both games basically run fine. Not a frames per second whore.

 

[shihonage]

I learned that its possible to optimize load times with mechanical HDD by getting a 32gb stick of "PATRIOT" brand and enabling ReadyBoost. Eventually Windows figures out that you're obsessed with this game and starts caching it off to the stick.

 

[Athelas]

WL2 has the most horrible performance out of any game I have played since NWN2.

Looks like that collaboration with Obsidian really paid off.

 

[Ulminati]

Now all they need is shitty encounter design, a few crashes and the last 20% of the game being horribly rushed. No-one will be able to tell it's not a full Obsidian production!

 

[Niektory]

Will the boxed-version come with a DRM-free Linux version? I accidentally activated my Steam key a while back, thinking that I would get a DRM-free key later on.

AFAIK boxed copy tiers get 2 keys, so you should be able to get a non-Steam version as well.

 

[Roguey]

E:C...ran good,

The video card melter?

 

[sea]

I learned that its possible to optimize load times with mechanical HDD by getting a 32gb stick of "PATRIOT" brand and enabling ReadyBoost. Eventually Windows figures out that you're obsessed with this game and starts caching it off to the stick.

It'd be a lot faster to use a RAM disk, though for that you'd ideally need 32 or 64 GB of RAM. Most USB sticks have terrible transfer speeds compared to hard drives so I am not sure why using a USB stick would be that much faster than a hard drive, unless you have a very slow hard drive to begin with.

Well you probably have a great CPU and a giant amount of RAM. I have a Core 2 Duo and only 2gigs of RAM but D:OS is pretty much the only game with which I had any kinds of trouble up to this point.

It is worth pointing out that your system is eight years old. Ten to twenty years ago, the prospect of using an eight-year-old computer to play games would have been nuts. So I'd say you got pretty good life out of it, but it may be time for an upgrade.

 

[FeelTheRads]

Say, sea, do you have any idea when will you ship the physical rewards? Or at least until when I'll still be able to change the shipping address?

 

[Sensuki]

The video card melter?

At least it actually uses the video card. Starcraft 2 does the same thing. I actually had a convo with George Ziets about that, I thought that perhaps his power supply might have blown up running E:C rather than the graphics card 'melting' on it's own.

From memory he said he was running a Generic PSU (don't remember the wattage) and generic PSUs are famous for not being able to provide even remotely the amount of stated watts on the PSU, sometimes as bad as half. E:C would cause his video card to use the maximum amount of wattage draw from the PSU, and combined with a bit of capacitor aging and a bit of bad luck, that could have been the recipe for disaster, which in turn, due to being a shitty generic PSU, fried his graphics card - as I've learned the hard way in the past with CPUs, Motherboards and Keyboards being fried due to PSUs exploding and power surges.

 

[Cazzeris]

Where can I change the name that will appear in the Backer Credits?

 

[sea]

Say, sea, do you have any idea when will you ship the physical rewards? Or at least until when I'll still be able to change the shipping address?

The best I can say for entering your shipping address is "ASAP". If you are moving around time of release you may want to ship to a post office box or family member/friend if you can.

Where can I change the name that will appear in the Backer Credits?

The Rewards page at the Ranger Center site will have a special field for it. Do note that this is an option only available to $100 and above Kickstarter backers.

 

[Zorba the Hutt]

Will you be giving the customary shout-out to Greg Martin Enterprises for their vital work behind the scenes?

 

[Copper]

Only if DU uses some sly trick to Allah Hiver and Felipepepe's posts.

 

[FeelTheRads]

Say, sea, do you have any idea when will you ship the physical rewards? Or at least until when I'll still be able to change the shipping address?

The best I can say for entering your shipping address is "ASAP". If you are moving around time of release you may want to ship to a post office box or family member/friend if you can.

I see... so you don't think the rewards will be delayed until next year or so? I'm only asking because for example the Broken Sword rewards are being sent quite a bit after the release of the game...

 

[felipepepe]

Only if DU uses some sly trick to Allah Hiver and Felipepepe's posts.

DU gave me a sub-forum, so now I'm too busy with ma book to keep bitching about W2....

 

[buzz]

It is worth pointing out that your system is eight years old. Ten to twenty years ago, the prospect of using an eight-year-old computer to play games would have been nuts. So I'd say you got pretty good life out of it, but it may be time for an upgrade.

Except inXile is supposed to make a ten/fifteen-year old game, not some ultra kewl, cutting-edge technology type of game.
If you think that Wasteland 2's mediocre 2005-level graphics with small levels, turn-based combat, isometric perspective, no such things like skyboxes or facial animation etc. needs more power than any of the last gen game and even current gen demanded, that's fine and you're entitled to your opinion.

Maybe I should've upgraded my computer instead of pledging to an unoptimized piece of shit,but that's on me. I guess I'm just silly for thinking that running Just Cause 2's fuckhueg world with hundreds of people in multiplayer and all the destructible buildings and vehicles means my PC is powerful enough to run what should basically be a tabletop game in a computer.

Ten to twenty years ago, the prospect of using cutting-edge computers to play fucking Zork or Pong sounded much more ridiculous .

 

[Lhynn]

Maybe I should've upgraded my computer instead of pledging to an unoptimized piece of shit.

That line killed me.

 

[Turok]

Funny guy.

 

[Sensuki]

Here's another WL2 Hardware usage screeny, this time GPU usage:

Granted, I recorded this at 1024x768, and 1080p should, in theory use up more texture memory.

I took this screeny at the start of the load in the first map, but I ran around the area and even went to the radio tower and the GPU usage never went above 33% while in a level, however it peaked at 40 when launching the exe or something.

 

[Onholyservicebound]

Yep, performance is bad, since there's a pointless update between now and release at least we'll get a chance to see if performance is as improved as sea says it is.

At the same time, I have no sympathy for people with piece of shit ancient systems having bad performance, muh entitlement, get with the fucking times and upgrade, modern games do not scale to your level.