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Underworld Sequel

Discussion in 'Codex Workshop' started by Charles-cgr, Sep 16, 2012.

  1. Charles-cgrgender: ⚧ OlderBytes Developer

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    Gakkone

    Yes, the keyboard shortcuts will still be there and you can still disable the cursor. There will be an option to have hotkeys listed on the screen for easy reference. Currently mousing over an icon makes the icon function appear with the hotkey in parenthesis. (If you mouse over the helmet, you see (C)haracters appear above the icons).

    I've learned to expect bitching from the Codex no matter what ;)
     
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    I REALLY like that the main viewport is the entire screen now? Because that looks sweet.
     
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  3. Charles-cgrgender: ⚧ OlderBytes Developer

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    Yes I'm finally growing out of my childish ways :)
     
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  4. Davarisgender: ⚧ Arcane

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    Charles,
    Your world map inspires me and that is not an easy thing to do!
     
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  5. Charles-cgrgender: ⚧ OlderBytes Developer

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    Thanks! One point :)
     
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    Can't wait for it be on sale for half price so I can pick it up like your last game!
     
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  7. Excommunicatorgender: ⚧ Arcane

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    Ambient occlusion please
     
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    Looking great. Can't wait to play it.
     
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  9. Charles-cgrgender: ⚧ OlderBytes Developer

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    Guess I'll have a starting price at $50 then, thanks for the heads up :D

    Excommunicator Seriously? I only have basic lighting for dark places at this stage. I don't expect to be able to do better than that I'm afraid.

    Scrooge thanks!
     
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  10. Excommunicatorgender: ⚧ Arcane

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    The point I was making was you should have a go at painting the lighting and shadows onto the world textures. That's what most of the old games did. With such simple flat-map terrain it will be very easy to simulate the appearance of proper shadows without much extra time invested

    It's really the only reason why Grimrock got the sales it did.
     
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    Love the full-screen view Charles, great job! Now if you could optimize the engine so that it runs at full speed on my netbook, that would be great :D
     
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  12. Mother Russiagender: ⚧ Andhaira Dumbfuck Queued

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    Looks amazing! Love love love the new portraits! Any chance whoever buys your game gets the portrait pack to use as forum avatars? :D

    I have a question: What changes are you making to combat? Any chance spells at least could be animated? With the sales of your Gold game, hiring an animator that is also an artist should not be too hard right?

    Also, any new classes?
     
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  13. Charles-cgrgender: ⚧ OlderBytes Developer

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    Even if I don't specifically zip and bundle avatar portraits it isn't too hard to copy / crop / paste ;)

    Combat changes because there are new skills, more spells and new classes. I'm considering other changes but will refrain from discussing them until I've thought it through enough.

    Animating 200 monsters is way too expensive. Adding various effects is a possibility but also a low priority, something I'll think about late in the dev cycle. As of now I haven't discussed it with the artist yet. I have to finalize the various events that would need such effects to have a better idea how many would be needed and estimate the added value.

    2 new classes: druid and hunter (actually ritualist and woodsman, with class name changes as the character progresses).
     
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  14. Mother Russiagender: ⚧ Andhaira Dumbfuck Queued

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    Cool. I take it then if someone buys your game they have your permission to use the portraits as avatars, right? If so :bro:

    Also, I did not mean animate the monsters, but have animated spell effects. Kind of like how Jeff Vogel did it in the Exile and Avernum games.
     
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  15. Charles-cgrgender: ⚧ OlderBytes Developer

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    Mother Russia That's what i figured but since you wrote "at least" I figured i'd answer both spell and mob animations.

    I don't see why I wouldn't allow use as avatars - if anything it can be publicity if people start asking where they come from :D

    For effects to recap I don't have a definitive answer yet. There's still a lot of work before i reach the stage where I'll be considering that seriously.
     
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  16. Charles-cgrgender: ⚧ OlderBytes Developer

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    A general work in progress screens update, featuring character creation, inventory and a character stats overview.

    http://www.olderbytes.com/some-works-in-progress.html

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    The character creation screen above shows one of several steps involved in creating a character: choosing the character portrait. The first few steps involve choosing a class, a race and a gender. these three are listed at the top left. The chosen portrait will be there as well as the character’s name. With these choices made, you get to distribute five aptitude points. These can either go in attributes, resistances, skills or craft. The first decision you will be confronted to is whether to concentrate on attributes or whether to include skills or crafts for a better rounded character.

    - Hovering over a choice makes a description appear, which includes (or will include) requirements.
    - Some skills require other skills and cannot exceed their value. Swords, for example, require proficiency in pugilism. If your character has a score of 3 in pugilism, sword proficiency cannot exceed 3. Other skills require and cannot exceed one or several attributes. Pugilism cannot exceed strength, accuracy and dexterity divided by three and rounded down.
    - The same goes for crafts (they can have either attribute or skill requirements, or both). Crafts are optional and choosing to learn or improve one instead of adding that point to an attribute or skill typically makes a less proficient combattant. But it is a big world awaiting you and not everything will be about winning battles.
    - Skills marked with an @ are active skills. These add options in battle whereas passive skills unlock other things. Two Handed for example is a passive skill that allows the character to wield two handed weapons, given he/she has the skill to wield the one-handed variety. Even if the two-handed score is higher than the weapon skill that corresponds to the weapon the character has equipped, the score that will be taken into consideration will be the lowest of the two. @Stealth, on the other hand, is an active skill that gives the character the ability to “become unseen”, which in turn allows the use of other skills. While rogues start with good knowledge of Stealth and associated manoeuvers (without need to spend aptitude points), any character can learn to do the same if you choose to have them do so. There will, however be a limit to the number of skills and crafts a charactercan learn.


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    Character inventory is divided into three important parts. The first column on the left is the list of equip slots. Each one corresponds to a specific part of the body. (I) and (J) are respectively the right and left hand.

    - When you hover over an item, wherever it is, the corresponding slot in the equip list turns blue. Likewise, the corresponding part of the paper doll on the right turns blue. There will also be a definition of the item at the bottom right part of the screen (not implemented yet) and a list of comparisons on the bottom left. The screenshot shows that when you have a short sword equipped and you hover over a walking stick, choosing to swap these items will result in a gain of -6 damage (shown in red when negative, white otherwise). There will be other comparisons but as of now damage is the only one implemented.

    - The second list in the middle is the character’s backpack. All slots there can be used by any item.

    - The third part is the character inventory. It is itself made up of a list of 8-26 slots (depending on the type of container) and 5 container slots. When one of the slots is used by an available container a small chest replaces the empty white square. In the screenshot above, the highlighted container slot is a simple cloth bag with only 8 slots. With five 26 item containers, the party can potentially store 130 items in addition to those characters have equipped or in their personal packs.

    Note: right clicking on an equipped item removes it and adds it to the character pack. Left clicking on an item selects it. Once an item is selected, clicking on a destination slot causes the item to be moved there. You can also click on a portrait and the item will be stored in his/her backpack.

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    The above is the character’s statistic screen. It is read only and gives a quick overview of the character’s attributes and known skills or crafts.



    The icons on the bottom left of the status screens allow navigation between these. They respectively give you access to inventory, stats, skills and crafts (where available attribute points can be alloted to learn new skills/crafts or improve known ones), factions (for consultation) and exit.



    Spells, crafts and magic will be accessible for use via another option in the main GUI.



    There’s still a lot of work to do, but it is getting there slowly but surely...
     
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  17. Zedgender: ⚧ fishin

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    Cool. My only gripe is that I would not use text in italic for the interface.

    Readable and clear.
    Less readable and clear.

    I think it looks better esthetically too.
     
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    This is looking SO fucking sweet Charles! Is this the same artist or a new one? I also really like the new portraits too. <3 (ESPECIALLY the one you are using). :oops:
     
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  19. Charles-cgrgender: ⚧ OlderBytes Developer

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    Someone asked if I'd make the portraits available to use as avatars, which I said I would (can't do much to prevent it even if I wanted to). I did pick the best one didn't I? :) Actually I hesitated with the lack chick. The one called Solen rae in the previous screenshot. So if you wanna use mine just ask & I'll switch ;)

    EDIT: Yes, still the same artist. But I know he occasionally gets help. He did on the new icons for example.

    One of those things I changed time and again on Underworld. Font and italics. I stopped when I didn't hear any new complaints. First one in a long time :(

    EDIT - true though that the text is smaller in sovereign. That might call for some changes...
     
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  20. Zedgender: ⚧ fishin

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    Personally I only use italics for "notes" and .. I don't know... disclaimers and shit?

    Anyway, at least you're not using comic sans.
     
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    Codex 2013 Codex 2014 PC RPG Website of the Year, 2015 Serpent in the Staglands Dead State Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Codex USB, 2014 Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2
    Update? Everything still going swell? Still no evil publisher in the mix?
     
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    One question about gameplay. Can you romance Natalie Portman, Devon Aoki and Zoe Saldana ?

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    How about Arnie ?
     
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  23. Charles-cgrgender: ⚧ OlderBytes Developer

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    ghostdog I'm still negociating with Natalie. I'm hoping she doesn't realize some courters might be codexers. If she does then sorry, no way





    :troll:


    I've been told they'd like to be but I never pick up my phone. Too many telemarketers.

    I'm working on Sovereign and a strategy title. It'll be a little while before an update which will probably be a teaser video, shortly followed by a demo. While I do plan ahead, I never really follow the plan so announcing dates is still pointless at this stage. Although I did say I was aiming for a Q1 release, which I still am.
     
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    Take all the time needed so that it becomes a timeless game that flat out embarasses MMX (not that it will be difficult).
     
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    Fuck Yeah! Can't wait for it to be released so I can get it during a 50% off sale! ;)










    Just kidding Charles, unless I'm in the gutter I should be able to afford to reward you correctly :salute:
     
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