The Valve and Steam Platform Discussion Thread

[StaticSpine]

you realize that sale is shit when you start to pick the games you really want, but not every game with huge discount and most of the time you just don't get a decent discount on the games you'd like to buy

 

[AngryEddy]

Yes. Anyone who doesn't see the sales have objectively declined as Steam has risen in popularity is just being contrarian for its own sake.

Not much has really come out the last 6 months

This is not an important point, i'd play AAA games if they were 75% on sale off a $10 RRP, but shit like Rome 2 is STILL $59.95 RRP. It's embarrassing.


On a completely unrelated note, I just saw that Shovel Knight is out now.

 

[Zewp]

The "sale sucks" because you bought everything you wanted three sales ago, as Infinitron said.

Pretty much this. There are tons of games on sale that I know I would have bought impulsively had I not already done so in previous sales.

Everyone always thinks every sale sucks compared to their first sale. I've been hearing people say the sale sucks since my first sale back in summer 2011.

 

[AngryEddy]

The "sale sucks" because you bought everything you wanted three sales ago, as Infinitron said.

Pretty much this. There are tons of games on sale that I know I would have bought impulsively had I not already done so in previous sales.

Everyone always thinks every sale sucks compared to their first sale. I've been hearing people say the sale sucks since my first sale back in summer 2011.

I have 26 games in my wishlist, and a majority of them are still in the $20-40 after sales, without including DLC. There are a few $2.99's, but they are far outnumbered by the pseudo-RRP games. Some of them aren't even on sale like Nuclear Throne and Malevolence: The Sword of Atranox. I mean come on, Broforce is STILL $11.99 post sale.

Here's one that makes me laugh: Infested planet, weird little independent game that nobody knows about right? $9.89 with 34% off.

 

[Zewp]

This is not an important point, i'd play AAA games if they were 75% on sale off a $10 RRP, but shit like Rome 2 is STILL $59.95 RRP. It's embarrassing.

You can get tons of AAA games that released in the last year for cheap. Yesterday you could get CoH2 for $10, base price $40. Bioshock Infinite $7.50, base price $30. Batman Arkham Origins $7.50, base price $30. Saints Row IV $10, base price $40. Assassin's Creed 4 $20, base price $40. All released in the last year or less.

From these two days alone I really wouldn't say the sale is any worse than a previous one. You can get lots of relatively recent AAA games for cheap. There's always a few stingy publishers/developers who don't discount their games properly and they've been there throughout all the sales.

Case in point: Ubisoft with Black Flag. Although they did slash the price to $40, so they're not as bad as they used to be.

 

[Metro]

Here's an example. LA Noire has a 70% discount the entire sale... yet the feature sale (it had a daily and now a flash) brings that to... 75% WTF is the point of wasting two feature slots for another fucking 5% when other games can take that slot?

 

[Clockwork Knight]

The point is to attract people who only look at the frontpage offers.

 

[Gord]

Meh, for me it's definitely that I already own most stuff that interests me from the last sales, coupled with better impulse control due to a) frequent sales kinda taking away the pressure and b) not much spare time to play all that stuff anyway.

I got the Blackguards DLC and The Brigmore Witches though, so all in all, I'm still below 10€ on my spendings.

 

[Konjad]

Just reminding those who forgot or do not know there is such a list:
http://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/The_Big_List_of_3rd_Party_DRM_on_Steam

 

[Ninjerk]

This is not an important point, i'd play AAA games if they were 75% on sale off a $10 RRP, but shit like Rome 2 is STILL $59.95 RRP. It's embarrassing.

You can get tons of AAA games that released in the last year for cheap.

 

[Unkillable Cat]

Just reminding those who forgot or do not know there is such a list:
http://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/The_Big_List_of_3rd_Party_DRM_on_Steam

Thanks for that. My game collection is very light on 3rd party DRM on Steam, but my wishlist had a few titles that would have given me addtional headaches. They've now been removed.

 

[Cowboy Moment]

Isn't today the first time Steam went over 8 million concurrent users?

 

[Average Manatee]

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/va...nd-steam-os-may-have-exclusives/1100-6417155/

I really do literally hope Gabe Newell chokes and dies if their shitty prebuilt PCs start having "exclusives".

 

[OSK]

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/va...nd-steam-os-may-have-exclusives/1100-6417155/

I really do literally hope Gabe Newell chokes and dies if their shitty prebuilt PCs start having "exclusives".

Well, technically, wouldn't they be Linux exclusives?

 

[Excidium]

Isn't "SteamOS" Just fucking Ubuntu? How can it have exclusive games?

 

[Metro]

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/va...nd-steam-os-may-have-exclusives/1100-6417155/

I really do literally hope Gabe Newell chokes and dies if their shitty prebuilt PCs start having "exclusives".

PC exclusive games?!?!? DAMN YOU GABE!

 

[Renegen]

I remember buying Ass Creed 2 for $2.50, NWN2 with all expansions for $2.50. They were both Christmas sales granted, but this sale is the worst yet. Payday 2 at 80% off comes to $5 and with all DLC to around $15, that's the typical shit you see these days and that game being heavily multiplayer you're kind of missing out on a lot if you jump into it today. That's what you're getting now, $5 games and $15 full DLC and only on a select few games. In fact seeing all these $5 games masquerading as $15 games really takes the fun out of the OMG SALE events that we're having. It's starting to look like a Wal-Mart where everything has the special tag but you're actually getting screwed.

 

[BlackAdderBG]

As 99% of the DLCs are shit anyway can't see your point.Just get the main game now and the good DLCs next sale when they will be heavily discounted too.This sale was better overall mainly because more games were released last year's fall.

 

[Infinitron]

I remember buying Ass Creed 2 for $2.50

This has never happened. Not with US/Western Europe prices, anyway.

 

[Konjad]

Isn't "SteamOS" Just fucking Ubuntu? How can it have exclusive games?

It's a modified Debian with home-made graphical environment, so yes, whatever will be exclusive to SteamOS will work on other Linux distributions. Notice that even in the menus Steam doesn't differentiate between SteamOS and Linux, games are put under "SteamOS + Linux" tab. In addition, SteamOS is for all PCs, you can install the beta already on any computer, the hardware they will sell is just a pre-built PC with pre-installed software.

BTW Gaben said Greenlight is shit and will be abandoned a year ago or so already, it's not news. They just take their time with it, just as with everything they do.

GabeN also hates Winderps 8, M$ wants to run their own store too (which would include games), so he has even more reasons to kill it before it spreads.

BTW. Valve threw a lot of money recently to support development of MESA (Linux GPU drivers).

You can clearly see what direction it all is going. In my opinion, it's a very good direction.

 

[DeepOcean]

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/va...nd-steam-os-may-have-exclusives/1100-6417155/

I really do literally hope Gabe Newell chokes and dies if their shitty prebuilt PCs start having "exclusives".

There is only a tweet written on vague corp lingo mentioned in the article, "exclusive experiences" means anything these days from exclusive cheat packs DLC/Skins and fucking hats to exclusive games. It is just some journo doing clickbaiting. Anyway, unless Gabe creates a buggy, filled with vulnerabilities for some NSA spying, over priced and with a terrible interface piece of crap operational system like Microsoft did, I'm okay with it.

 

[Average Manatee]

Anyway, unless Gabe creates a buggy, filled with vulnerabilities for some NSA spying, over priced and with a terrible interface piece of crap operational system like Microsoft did, I'm okay with it.

And what do you think Steam is?

 

[tuluse]

Anyway, unless Gabe creates a buggy, filled with vulnerabilities for some NSA spying, over priced and with a terrible interface piece of crap operational system like Microsoft did, I'm okay with it.

And what do you think Steam is?

It's not overpriced.

 

[Average Manatee]

Anyway, unless Gabe creates a buggy, filled with vulnerabilities for some NSA spying, over priced and with a terrible interface piece of crap operational system like Microsoft did, I'm okay with it.

And what do you think Steam is?

It's not overpriced.

A don't see why you would want a buggy, filled with vulnerabilities for some NSA spying, terrible interface piece of crap operational system even if it was free, so its arguably still overpriced, if slightly less so than what Microsoft offers.

 

[Cowboy Moment]

If SteamOS takes off, you'll likely have other digital stores selling Linux games without Steam DRM. As a matter of fact, GOG has already announced this. Then you can play games on a Linux distro of your choice, without NSA backdoors and shitty tablet interfaces (or, if you like shitty tablet interfaces, Linux has a ton as well).