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Tex Murphy games: Opinions?

Discussion in 'Adventure Gaming' started by Longwinded & Pretty, Jun 30, 2010.

  1. Longwinded & Pretty Barely Literate

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    Made a trip to the parentals recently, and after a quick look in the basement to see what goodies I may have left there (found my old copy of 'Shattered Lands', box and all) I came across the 6 cds that made up 'The Pandora Directive', a game I remember playing when I was younger and being a little bit in awe of the time.

    That said, let me clarify that 'awe' may come off as a strong word to use, but I was a real fuckwit back in the day (still am to certain extents) and the entire FMV phase was something I found kind of cool... hey, I told ya I was a fuckwit.

    Well, back on track here. The reason I'm bringing it up now is that though I always knew there was a previous game by the name of 'Under a Killing Moon' I just discovered an older game called 'Martian Memorandum' as well, though that one is labeled as 'Tex Murphy 2' on the website I'm taking a look at. Not in the mood to check Wiki out to see what the full series is, as my main question is how these games have aged since the FMV fad fell out.

    I'm probably going to give Pandora another try, as I remember I was too dull to even try the hard mode of the puzzles back in the day, but how are the other two, and the series as a whole? I know you guys are nice and honest with your commentary, so what is the Codex's opinions on these games, or recommendations if I shouldn't bother with them at all.
  2. Sceptic Liturgist

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    Quick rundown:

    Mean Streets: flawed and a bit of a mess, but there's a good game in there. It has a stupid action minigame (obligatory) and a boring flying minigame (optional, using the Eschelon engine). Aside from that it's a good little game with an interesting plot, one of the few investigation games that manage to have a LOT of red herrings (some of which you can follow for a while). It's also extremely nonlinear.

    Martian Memorandum: awesome game. VERY good story, good puzzles but very unforgiving. There ARE hints when you mess up, but if you miss the hint you can get yourself completely stuck. More linear and tightly structured than MS. Has some annoying trial-and-error bits and the occasional place where timing is important, but the rest of the game is so good it's worth putting up with the annoyances.

    Under a Killing Moon: tons of potential, mostly fail. Poor writing, really bad acting, lots of visual glitching due to superimposition of video and 3D backgrounds, pretty boring puzzles (including a LOT of trial-and-error), average story. All in all the weakest Tex Murphy game.

    The Pandora Directive: pure awesome. This is what UKM should've been. Great writing, mostly good acting, good to great puzzles, somewhat linear (depends on the chapters), pretty long, overall story is meh but some of the details are excellent (eg tracking down the Black Arrow Killer, getting away from the "terror" in the secret base). Great atmosphere, captures Noir almost perfectly. It's the best Tex game and probably the only good thing to come out of FMV: it's one of the few games that manage to use FMV and still be a real game. Oh yeah, and it has lots of C&C - emphasis on the Consequences.

    Overseer: basically a remake/reimagining of Mean Streets. Same basic plot, some of the details are changed, got rid of all the extra stuff and red herrings, uses similar gameplay to UKM/Pandora. YMMV. I find it not as good as MS, as it removed some of the things that made MS special, but the game feels much tighter too. Oh, and it has Michael York being awesome in a wheelchair.

    Good series all in all, with a couple of excellent highlights.
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  3. Longwinded & Pretty Barely Literate

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    Hrmm, now that I think about it I do recall 'The Pandora Directive' winning an award for adventure game of the year when I purchased it, though I guess that meant a little more back when it was released compared to nowadays.

    Anyway, thank you again for the excellent detail of the series, shall definitely be giving the first 2 games a try as well. Now to see if I can get Pandora to run on my current laptop.
  4. DriacKin Barely Literate

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    If I remember correctly, Pandora Directive wasn't really all that difficult to get running in dosbox.
    Also, the game gets a glowing recommendation from me. Easily the best of the series.
  5. jazzotron Educated

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    I agree - Pandora Directive is easily the best, although I did enjoy UaKM as well!

    Only thing that bugged me about the series are those damnable conversation puzzles - the ones where you have to pick the correct dialogue options or die! They're not even puzzles given that there is no logical path through them - one must pick an option randomly and hope for the best! :cry:

    I've heard rumour of a new Tex Murphy game in development - can anyone confirm or deny?
  6. trustno1code Savant

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    There were plans apparently, but I think it went nowhere. When Chris Jones and Aaron Conners founded Big Finish Games they were hoping to get enough of an income of their new stuff ("3 Cards to ..." franchise) to afford making another Tex game eventually. They even went ahead with sorting out the rights issue (source):

    That was over a year ago. Unfortunately, the "adventurish HOGs" they created apparently tanked, and they're pretty much out of business. With one "but" (source):

    No confirmation on whether this "Project Fedora" is indeed another Tex game though.
  7. jazzotron Educated

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    Probably for the best if the series stays dead. I wouldn't be at all surprised if a new Tex Murphy game turned out to be a cover-based TPS.
  8. Dicksmoker Scholar Patron

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    I did feel it was too good to be true when someone said that it was an adventure game that actually had C&C. Now I know for sure.
  9. Sceptic Liturgist

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    Windows mode can be finnicky on modern OS (and even on Win98 it used to crash frequently on me) but DOS mode should work fine in DOSBox.

    The name is a giveaway I would say ;)
    But who knows what they can do, if anything, with the resources they have. :(

    Don't be a dick. The trial and error conversations he's referring to are mostly in UKM. The C&C I was referring to is in Pandora Directive. And no, that is not what I meant by C&C.
  10. Fomorian Barely Literate

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    Only Tex Murphy game that won't work in DosBox is Overseer and you can get that running in Windows pretty easily so long as you don't have a 64-bit OS.

    Great games. Pandora Directive really is the high point of the series but I always had a soft spot for Overseer since it was the first one I played and Michael York is awesome.
  11. Longwinded & Pretty Barely Literate

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    Hmm, you by chance mean the multiple endings and one one got to them? I remember finishing off as a clown the first (and only) time I played, and couldn't for the live of me remember why I got one of the 'bad' endings.

    The more I think of it the more I'm remembering the different parts of Pandora Directive. Okay, time to install this. It's good to hear it'll run under DosBox, problem is my laptop has been having issues with 'Box since I upgraded to Win7 and lost the control app to the graphic settings. Would feel wrong to run it in a window..
  12. Sceptic Liturgist

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    Which ending you get is determined by a number of things you do, mostly by how many people get killed. Generally being nice and warning people who you think are in danger is good, being an ass means people will end up mistrusting you and that can come back to bite you in the ass later. To get the "best" ending you need to save everyone you can (there are a couple of people that will still die no matter what), be as nice as possible to the main characters to make sure they trust you and stay faithful to Chelsea.

    By the way the clown ending isn't the worst. It probably means you were a half-dick (rather than a complete bastard) and slept with Reagan. I think there's one choice at the very end that determines if you get the clown ending or the "everyone blows up" ending.
  13. jazzotron Educated

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    If I've managed to get in before you've installed, then try this.
    Saves on having to change CDs everytime you travel or use the phone.

    I'm playing again after using this custom installer - see how it goes!
  14. Longwinded & Pretty Barely Literate

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    And I think I just remembered why I didn't play it a second time around. So, thank you for this fix!

    Finally got the graphic crap settled, so it's install time. Thank you once again guys!
  15. trustno1code Savant

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    Bit of an update from Chris and Aaron:
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    God DAMN it. I was hoping it would be something to do with Fedora.

    Would still be interesting to see what they're going to try this time.
  17. trustno1code Savant

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    The Kickstarter craze might've finally kickstarted the Tex Murphy resurrection.
    Attention! Attention! - Unofficial Tex Murphy

    As enthusiastic as I am about everything that's going on, I don't know if devs aren't overestimating peoples wallet sizes. They better start spacing these Kickstarters out (if that's what's happening here).

    Either way, mark the 20th of March on yer calendars.

    ... I probably should've posted this in that Random News thread instead of Necroing, right?
  18. Sceptic Liturgist

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    Awesome! :bounce:

    Can't wait to see more details about this. I've been generally wary of Kickstarters so far, but this may be the one to make me take out my wallet.

    Now all we need is Tom Hall to start Anachronox 2 as well...
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    I'd pay in an instant. The Tex Murphy series was awesome.

    So you haven't pledged money to the Double Fine Adventure or Wasteland 2 Kickstarters? You're evil!
  20. Crooked Bee Nyadmin Patron

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    Another Kickstarter? For a Tex Murphy game? Where do I donate?


    (All rhetorical quetions.)
  21. Aeschylus Cipher Patron

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    This would be cool, though my wallet is starting to get a little light from all these kickstarters.

    As you might be able to guess from my avatar adventure games are my first love, so any effort to bring back the quality classic series is good in my book.
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    Yep, it's going to start getting problematic. The bulk of the funding isn't coming from people buying the $15-$50 standard copies it's from big spenders chucking in $1,000+ donations. People aren't going to be able to do that multiple times a year. Unless they're crazy rich like Notch but such people are few and far between.
  23. Aeschylus Cipher Patron

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    Well, that's not entirely true. DFA got around $1.5 million from people backing in the $15-30 range. I think it depends on how good the stuff is they're willing to offer for the lower tiers.
  24. oldmanpaco Master of Siestas

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    Martian Memorandum was one of my favorite adventure games growing up. I would kick in $15 for a new Tex game.
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    I'd give for Tex even though I'm still wondering how I'll pay for W2...Still, maybe it won't be for a while yet and this is just an attempt to get interest going, spread the word as it were with the actual Kickstarter thing(if it's even an option) and then go for it. I hope Chris is too smart to try and squeeze the adventure crowd and those of us who have multiple interests at this moment. Let's not burn everybody out on this or rush with a half-arsed project.


    Also Sceptic not donating to W2? That is indeed strange. I'm as cynical and poor as anyone could be and I never even really played Wasteland in the first place, but I figure it's time to take a stand and stop just whining like a bitch.

    Regarding adventures like DFA it's a different story. I can understand the cynicism as adventures of the point and click variety don't seem like a genre that really needs Kickstarter despite what Ron would lead you to believe. Krauts and other Euros are constantly turning out adventure games, some actually really good, on tiny budgets. A real Tex Murphy game would need more funding though, the mix of 3D locations and FMV would be harder to pitch to publishers and so may need extra funding.

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