Tacticular Cancer: We'll have your balls

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Takedown: Red Sabre, aka "Hardcore Tactical Shooter"

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by Crooked Bee, Mar 5, 2012.

  1. Wyrmlord Self-Ejected Patron

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    Are you serious?

    Ah, but another Richard Lowtax that man.
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    Plenty if you use the UT3 engine which has a very cheap licence.

    This is a tribesish game a lone guy is developing in his spare time I've been following. He's only been at it for a couple of months:
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    There hasn't really been any tactical shooters in the style of ghost recon or counterstrike released in the last few years, but these guys are completely failing to describe how their game will be different from CoD.
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    Their records failed them. I have a hard time believing someone behind Halo Reach has any semblance of what made 'tactical shooters' hardcore aside from 4 - man co-op and increased incoming damage.
    Also doing third person and first person. HAHAHAHA. Hellgate anyone?

    Go choke on a dollar coin or something. I rather spend my money on emotionally engaging shooter like Binary Domain with real time squad reactions and relationships on the field.
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    I would be down for another R6/SWAT, but I don't think these clowns can do it.
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    I'm really looking forward to the PS3 version.

    Seriously, though, it's been seven years since SWAT 4 and the only company that is even trying nowadays is Bohemia who seem to have completely lost their understanding on how to make a good single-player campaign. This genre would need some new blood. Too bad this project is a total mess.
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    Kwanzanian big-name KKKonsole developer - Takedown: 91583$/200000$ (45,79%)
    2 shangai dudes doing PC niche roguelike - FTL: 159787$/10000$ (1597,87%)

    Problem, Hardcore Tactical Shooter fans? :smug:
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    That reminds me. I just re-downloaded SWAT 3 from GOG. Time to give this bad boy a go later. Some of the missions are just timeless, like the hostage rescue operation located in a bungalow.
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    SWAT 2 was pretty great, I don't think I played the others.
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    That's from one of the administrators? :lol:

    I cannot into Photoshop so this isn't perfectly aligned, but look at this. Yeah, it's totally a fresh piece of art and not photoshopped. :smug:

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    It appears that the idiot whom they commissioned got really lazy, and decided to just throw in a few filters, change the hue, saturation and colour balances and thought he could get away with it. I'd be less appalled, and even supportive towards the project, if Christian Allen had just made an apology on behalf of the "artist" and removed the concept art. To have this sort of embarrassment pointed out and still continue to defend it, well this is just disrespectful.

    (this still applies even if it wasn't a Photoshop job)
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    Seriously, the people behind Halo:Reach claiming they can pull a TACTICAL shooter? And one with 3rd/1st person view interchangeable and multiplatform?

    Don't they have any honor or shame?
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  15. MetalCraze Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck

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    The main problem here is that the dude worked on shit games.

    I mean do you really believe that a dev of Halo Reach can do a "hardcore tactical shooter" that isn't Rainbow 6 Veg-ass?

    People don't donate to his kickstarter not because he has nothing to show - that didn't stop sheeple from donating to Stoic and InXile after all - but because saying that you are behind the fucking Halo doesn't really help catering to people who want good games.
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    Hopefully it's failure, despise the new shinny pro video and "concept art", will slow down the hype and ammount of dumb projects jumping the kickstarter bandwagon.
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    Oh so this is even better, not only are they going BioWare school of design, they're also adopting Dogma7's approach to public relations? (1000AD is still free - give it a try! :M)
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    You go to Manage Pledge, then scroll all the way to the bottom and there you'll see 'Cancel my pledge'.

    There are 2617 backers now. It'd be funny if this number drops after tonight.
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  21. LundB Mistakes were made.

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    Neither should saying you were behind The Old Republic, but that hasn't stopped donations from pouring in. In fact, both InXile and Stoic have managed to overcome rather shitty track records (though in InXile's case, not as much, since Fargo does have some very good games on his pre-InXile resume).

    I think it has more to do with the fact that he's getting funds not to make the game, but to present it to investors (watch as the pledges evaporate into thin air with nothing to show), the fact that he hasn't really put anything on the table to show there's anything but a very basic idea here, the rather unprofessional and immature tone that has permeated this Kickstarter campaign, and the fact that an inherently low budget Kickstarter project format does not lend itself well to an FPS of this sort.

    With something like Wasteland 2, there's plenty that could set it apart from preexisting games, even at a low budget. This game, not so much. I don't see a compelling reason why I should want to play his game, not an ARMA game or one of the earlier Rainbow 6 games (nothing past Raven Shield), even if it existed and turned out not to be shit.
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    Thanks, they just lost my pledge. I did like the idea of a tactical shooter like R6 but fuck these guys.
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  23. MetalCraze Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck

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    It has to do more with them saying it's RPG. What is RPG? It's a shitty action game with romances and animated prositution mods. And that's exactly what people expect from Fargo. His track record is thus promising. Same goes for Stoic who are ex-Bioware devs - don't forget they already said it will be like Final Fantasy Tactics.

    Now with "hardcore tactical shooter" it's different. People who play them are usually grown ups who don't understand shit like pixels on the screen having a mental breakdown because somebody took a candy from them 10 years ago.
    They expect a game that is a game. Where they and their bros can gather and do some serious tactical gaming without the bullshit.

    But for the past decade Halo is a term synonimous with the teenage shit. When you think Halo you think 12 years old fat retards screaming "FAGGOT!!!1" into a mic. And they do it because that's what Halo is all about.

    I totally believe a Halo dev knows how to make a good serious tactical game.


    Imagine Pete Hines starting a kickstarter for a tactical turn-based strategy.

    That's exactly what I mean.
    However if his track record was that of Spanel bros - you totally would.
    Cowboy Moment Brofists this.
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    The guy behind the project, Christian Allen, get his ass kicked in the comment section, plays holier-than-thou and then gets kicked again and leaves:

    http://kotaku.com/5896568/i-messed-...er-now-im-fixing-it?comment=48311068#comments

    This guy is really a sad mistake, he is one of those guys that blindly believes he has perfect track records and perfect ideas, and is doing everything right, so he is "entitled to succeed", and if he fails is because the world is unfair...even if he somehow manages the get the money his game will probably be just like the kickstarter project, "perfect ideas done right", but a shitty game nonetheless.
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    Hahahahaha this is hilarious :lol:
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