Decline Sword Coast Legends Pre-Release Thread

[Rivmusique]

I actually was surprised by how many fans there are of Drizzt

Same.

Thought people who spoke up about that were being eliminated for the good of humanity. Program must have died off. Shame.

 

[ArchAngel]

They said that their E3 presentation will most revolve around DM mode. I guess they hope to be next D:OS or something.

 

[Whiran]

They said that their E3 presentation will most revolve around DM mode. I guess they hope to be next D:OS or something.

You mean Neverwinter Nights don't you?

 

[ArchAngel]

They said that their E3 presentation will most revolve around DM mode. I guess they hope to be next D:OS or something.

You mean Neverwinter Nights don't you?

Nope. They want to offer a D&D Co-OP experience that is easy to start playing and fast and fluid. D:OS was closest isometric game to that so far.
For SCL they also added DMs.

 

[LeStryfe79]

It's a hack n slash with no mod support and DM tools behind a heinous paywall. I like hack n slash games, but this seems like a disingenuous hybrid that's masquerading as something it's not.

 

[prodigydancer]

why the fuck do ya'll care about this game?

Because hope has 100k HP and huge innate regeneration.

SCL's prospects look pretty illusive though. I'm not sure how they're going to appeal to the AAA-spoiled mainststream crowd with a Unity-based game. And without a convenient and feature-rich toolset they can't hope attract modders (especially with SR:HK and FO4 on the horizon). So who is their TA?

There are die hard DnD fans, of course, who will buy anything as long as the box has a WotC logo on it...

 

[ArchAngel]

I am a die hard DnD fan but I still don't buy shit games. Actually hard core DnD fans are going to care more if the game is really D&D or just claims so.
I think this game is more for DnD casual fans = people that only played computer DnD games or that played only a few sessions of table top DND.

 

[Rivmusique]

And MCA's Icewind Dale short fiction (written in Black Isle days): http://app.genwi.com/5.0/article/45675/104723/99716995

I remember that guy from HoW, had never read that, cheers.

Had so much trouble with just one remorhaz that I was smoking by the dozen, what a baddie.

With a sound like the tolling of an old church some great bell

 

[Jimmious]

I will admit I'm interested for the co-op part of the game.
It seems really probable that it will suck as an RPG but it might be fun to play with others as a game in general

 

[Zombra]

It even contains character sheets for companions: http://media.wizards.com/2015/downloads/dnd/SCL_CharacterSheets.pdf

This game still doesn't look good, but I gotta say, when I saw the character sheets, it called to something wonderful from my childhood. For a split second I started wondering what the sticker price will be. Then I stopped.

 

[Infinitron]

 

[JasonNH]

@18:35 - "I used pause and play constantly"

Yeah, that was my concern, thanks for affirming.

 

[Trodat]

I'm still annoyed how uninspiring art SCL has. It's like that new HoMM 7. When I look at the companions there's nothing to distinguish them from a generic russian shovelware f2p mmo. Like they talk big about feelz and epicness and bringing back iconic forgotten realms characters - well I'm sorry but your art alone disconnects anything you are trying to convey.

 

[Zorba the Hutt]

frequent DLC is best DLC

We all are working hard to exceed your expectations.

While we are not yet prepared to formally share our DLC strategy, the team is on record saying that our post release content options will be frequent, of varied scope and price, and of high value to the player. Tabletop D&D is more than a game, it's a hobby that evolves and expands over time. SCL hold true to that tradition.

 

[ArchAngel]

These guys have really found their milk cow. I hope their cow dies..

 

[GlutenBurger]

Tabletop D&D is more than a game, it's a hobby that evolves and expands over time. SCL hold true to that tradition.

Ah yes, the ancient tradition of paying more money for minor adjustments that could as easily be covered by house rules.

 

[Spectacle]

This is probably going to fail hard. Initial sales will probably be decent due to hype, but DLC sales are probably going to be in the bucket once people realize the game is shallow shit. I hope Hasbro doesn't conclude there's no market for D&D computer games.

 

[ArchAngel]

Personally I find it insulting if they are going to try charging for basic races and classes from PHB. They talk in their interview how D&D is about buying additional material. Yes, but it has some basic things that are bought in Core books. If their game does not implement a similar amount of content (classes, races, monsters, items) don't call upon DnD book as a cover for your greed/incompetence.

 

[Lhynn]

Personally i find it hilarious that people are going to pay for this piece of shit.

 

[Jarpie]

For those glamouring about the DM mode, here's something you ought to know: There will never ever will be anything like DMing stuff like in NWN1&2, nor servers handled by the players because devs and publishers will not give away their "power" to the players.

 

[a Goat]

with early iterations on multiplayer and DM play we realized quite quickly that resting to recover spells just wasn’t going to appeal to a broad group of players.

This is how you can fuck up everything. Resting system didn't worked in video games. It's purpose isn't fulfilled in video games, it only causes retarded things like going to save somebody from immediate threat inside of some dungeon, and spend 1 month on it because you want your cooldowns to go off. It still doesn't really works, the game that is closest to "working" is Pillars of Eternity and we all know that it "werks" more than it "works". Instead of saying this, they went for crying about borader audience

Never forget, all Kickstarter proved was the core audience is roughly 500,000 souls (which everybody already knew). That, while the popamole core is 5,000,000 strong.

I wouldn't say it's 500k. I'd say it's something like 2-4 millions, the popamole-RPG crowd is 10-20M big. Remember that
1) not everybody bought those games(some pirated, some still wait for good sale)
2) not everybody was/is interested in all those games(including the best-selling ones)

 

[BlackAdderBG]

Yeah Derp Age ,Twitcher and such selling 10 to 20 million are you drunk.Only two "RPG" are close to that Diablo 3 and TES:5 and only because people that don't play RPGs buy them.

 

[Zorba the Hutt]

After giving up on this game months ago, I have to admit I've had a few laughs checking out their forums again over the last couple of days. Wanted to see how the console reveal went down and there were a bunch of people talking about refunds, so the CEO suddenly started posting and talking about how this game was always aimed at PCs and they only had a couple of consoles in their office.

But it really is strange seeing what sort of requests devs have to deal with, imagine making a D&D game and getting stuff like this:
https://forums.swordcoast.com/index.php?/topic/1775-ash-and-dan-oleary-request/

The request is.. I did not really see any long hairs shown in the character creation.. I am guessing it's due to taking the safe path. I suppose I will have to deal with it.. Now am curious if any chance Illydia 's hair can be made usable on human females? the styles I did see.. are the slicked back ones. Prefer some bangs on my characters.

Yes I am sure someone will have to come comment on how "long hair and hair with bangs makes no sense! they are fighters!" to those people... *gets the stick* It's a fantasy world... not reality, Anything should be possible within the realms of imagination. I also never once read any D&D rule stating a restriction on hairstyles ...... yeah take that ya rule mongers \o/

OH! and option to hide head gear.. pretty please! and here is another one that will get some hate.. a costume tab if possible. So we can have anything we desire show instead of the armor we wear. Just make it so those who complain about it can disable it in game.

But finally, in another thread the CEO cleared up all concerns by stating that everyone should have known all along that this game is continuing the evolution of D&D classics like DAO:

It should be no surprise to anyone that SCL is reminiscent of DA:O. We have stated from early on that n-Space intended to continue on the evolution of games that began (roughly) with Baldur's Gate and (we feel) ended with Dragon Age: Origins, adding to that formula a set of DM related capabilities.

 

[Infinitron]

Zorba the Hutt That looks familiar: http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/inde...ngeons-dragons-age.96970/page-32#post-3784769

 

[Trodat]

Character customization, housing, pets and skins - "what is an RPG?"