Incline RPG Codex's Top 50 cRPGs - Results and Reviews

[Jasede]

Hey felipepepe when will you guys ban everyone who voted for Dragon's Age as we discussed in our PM?

 

[Broseph]

Hey felipepepe when will you guys ban everyone who voted for Dragon's Age as we discussed in our PM?

B-but Grunker is my friend!

 

[Jasede]

Grunker shmunker, filthy second generation raptor!

 

[Jedi Master Radek]

K', fixed the System Shock 2 issue and updated the lists & graphs on the OP. Now 1999 is even more ahead of every other year.

Also added the Bayesian Average to the developers rank. It changes almost nothing, so I left it ranked by points.

felipepepe I think You really shouldn't count M&B and M&B: W as different games. I mean one plays it only for it's gameplay mechanics. I think everyone who chose one of those really meant both as everyone who chose G2 and G2:NoR really chose the same game. It would mean that M&B gets into the top 50.

We had a huge discussion about this. Gothic 2 is grouped with Night of the Raven because it was released as so outside of Germany. World of Xeen is grouped as well because they were made to be played together from the start, and there's vast ammount of extra content only accessible this way.

Games like Mount & Blade/Warband or Ultima 7/Serpent Isle are separate releases, and will be counted as so.

I am sure that Gothic 2 and Night of Revan were a separate releases in Poland. Also Warband is Mount&Blade with MP. Quite sure that Mp was not the reason people submitted it, so it leaves Warband as M&B. Also I don't see BG 1 expansion as a separate entry in the list.

 

[bloodlover]

How the fuck are older games overlooked on the codex?

 

[Surf Solar]

New Vegas in the top 10?





or

 

[Malpercio]

More people need to play Anachronox, I guess.

 

[:Flash:]

Codex is biased towards the second incline.
I still don't understand why I prefer the pre-1995 era. I didn't start playing RPGs until after the second incline, but I could never get into the late 90's games. The Pre95-list is my thing, though.

No Fates: Gates of Dawn.

RPGCodex, I am disappoint.

Felipe didn't allow votes for non-PC games.

 

[Excidium]

If ports from other platforms are allowed then games that can be emulated should be

 

[Bubbles]

More people need to play Anachronox, I guess.

Everybody needs to play Anachronox. At least once a year.

People not having played awesome games is likely the main reason why the official list (by total points) is so shit.

 

[felipepepe]

No Fates: Gates of Dawn.
RPGCodex, I am disappoint.

Felipe didn't allow votes for non-PC games.

Fates: Gates of Dawn is a PC game, had 3 votes and was ranked #83.

 

[Bubbles]

Better correct the wikipedia article then, since it claims otherwise.

 

[Broseph]

New Vegas in the top 10?





or

Josh Sawyer made the Codex his bitch. Suck it down.

 

[felipepepe]

Better correct the wikipedia article then, since it claims otherwise.

Platform(s) Amiga, Atari ST

I'm guessing you're born in the 90's and think that PC = DOS & Windows...

 

[Bubbles]

I'm guessing you're born in the 90's and think that PC = DOS & Windows...

The development of the game begun already in 1986.[1] Although mentioned in the manual[1] a PC version was never released because of the bankruptcy of the game company.[2]

 

[Excidium]

Better correct the wikipedia article then, since it claims otherwise.

Platform(s) Amiga, Atari ST

I'm guessing you're born in the 90's and think that PC = DOS & Windows...

Technically that's correct, people mean IBM PC

 

[felipepepe]

That's a assumption of your part, AFAIK PC always meant Personal Computer... and the Commodore & Amiga all were PCs.

 

[Excidium]

It's not my assumption, it's how people have always said stuff on forums and shit.

 

[Zetor]

FWIW in Hungary the computer / gaming mags of the early 90s (and late 80s) differentiated between "C-64", "Atari", "Amiga" and "PC".

That said, the 'C' in CRPG stands for 'computer', not 'PC', so Fate could be allowed (knowing the codex, it's just about time for semantic debates about the definition of 'computer' then)... though I personally wouldn't consider it a top50 game either way.

More people need to play Anachronox, I guess.

I played (and liked) Anachronox, I just happen to have played a lot of other CRPGs that I liked even more. HOWEVER, more people need to play Superhero League of Hoboken and/or Freedom Force. /angryface

 

[Scroo]

So some of the best cRPGs from the early 90s shouldn't be allowed in this rating because they've been released on the wrong personal computer? What is this?!

Having said that the discussion is pretty pointless since no amiga game has even made it into the top 50.

 

[Jaesun]

How the fuck are older games overlooked on the codex?

Because we have a huge influx of newer people. The lists in the past, were all when the Old Ones were more prevalent on the codex. Most of the Old Ones rarely visit here anymore. And now looking at this list, with reason.

 

[:Flash:]

FWIW in Hungary the computer / gaming mags of the early 90s (and late 80s) differentiated between "C-64", "Atari", "Amiga" and "PC".

I remember that use as well. Even the titles of the magazines were accordingly.
Perhaps it's a European - America thing. Mobygames uses "Dos" and "Windows" for IBM-PC versions, whereas The Legacy (German) uses "PC (DOS)" and PC (Windows).
I can now see it wasn't meant that way, but I read Felipe's "only PC games" and thought "well that's a bit unfair on Fate".

 

[Excidium]

How the fuck are older games overlooked on the codex?

Because we have a huge influx of newer people. The lists in the past, were all when the Old Ones were more prevalent on the codex. Most of the Old Ones rarely visit here anymore. And now looking at this list, with reason.

Not necessarily the case considering the biggest Black Isle/Troika fanboys tend to -2005 people

You mostly see newer people like Deuce, Octavius, Sceptic when it comes to older shit

 

[Bubbles]

To be fair, Dark Souls is more old school than most old school games.

 

[felipepepe]

Yeah, do we even have a similar list from the early days of the Codex? AFAIK there was no popular votes, just lists from staff members. And all I ever saw was Top 5's, and they are EXACTLY the same 5 games for 11 years now... I fail to see such decline in the overall tastes.

Especially compared to the massive decline that the rest of the world went since the founding of the Codex, an era when Black Isle was still alive, working on Fallout 3 and Baldur's Gate 3...