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Incline RPG Codex's Top 50 cRPGs - Results and Reviews

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by felipepepe, Feb 6, 2014.

  1. felipepepe Prestigious Gentleman Codex's Heretic Patron

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    Ladies and gentleman, after much voting and drama, I present you the RPG Codex's Top 50 cRPGs!

    EDIT by Crooked Bee: Final article with user reviews here: http://www.rpgcodex.net/content.php?id=9453

    This year, a record-breaking 234 bros & sis took part in the voting, where each would have 25 points to distribute among what they believed are the best cRPGs ever. Exactly 5,945 points where distribute between 223 computer RPGs (no console exclusives were allowed), ranging from Temple of Apshai - released in 1979 -, to Heroine's Quest - released in 2013. Overall, 34 years of glorious incline.

    And without further ado, here are the Top 50 cRPGs:

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    Planescape: Torment is the #1 cRPG ever. MCA's magnum opus not only the higher number of points, but also the most voters AND the highest average score of the Top 50. Fallout 1 came close, but the gap from #2 to #3 is gigantic, showing that PS:T and F1 are truly unrivaled.

    Runner-Ups:

    Since everyone's a winner, here are 22 more games that got at least 10 points:

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    I would continue the list, but below that the games are almost all tied up until #114... it really is a mess.

    And nothing against Heroine's Quest, but this shows how recently released games do tend to score higher on votings. That's why I wanted to do this before the massive wave of highly awaited releases this year, otherwise the list would be heavily biased.

    Something for the Ages:

    There's a lot of cry about how the older gems are overlook by the Codex. It's know that the average user here is in his 25-30's, so is understandable that games releases in the late 90's are part of their golden years. To help balance things out, here's a different version of the above list, now divided into Pre & Post-1995:

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    Bayesian Average List:

    Are you unsatisfied with the results? Butthurt about your favorite game being left out? Whine no more, the math experts at the Codex present you a alternative list, based on the Beyesian Average of every game with more than 10 votes! Just look at that name, it HAS to be more legit than the other one!

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    Benefits include New Vegas out of the Top 10 and Icewind Dale II out of the Top 50! Wow!

    Warning: Alpha Protocol.

    Developers:

    Since I had all this trouble, I decided to also compile a list of the top developers, according to the results above:

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    So, the Codex loves Black Isle... shocking, I know.

    Cool Graph of INCLINE:

    Finally, here's a cool graph of all the 223 games voted, displaying the INCLINE throughout the years. Here you can see the number of games released, their total points and the average of points per year since 1979!

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    I also ran a correlation of the votings, but there was no relevant result. Closest thing to a decent correlation was that people potato who vote for Witcher games usually vote for both of them, and that those who voted for ToEE also voted for KotC. No big surprise, really.

    Also, also, finally.... this:

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    And a text-only list:

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    # Game
    1 Planescape: Torment
    2 Fallout 1
    3 Fallout 2
    4 Baldur's Gate 2: Shadows of Amn
    5 Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura
    6 Vampire: The Mascarade - Bloodlines
    7 The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
    8 Fallout: New Vegas
    9 Gothic 2
    10 Wizardry 8
    11 Deus Ex
    12 Neverwinter Nights 2 - Mask of the Betrayer
    13 Jagged Alliance 2
    14 Dark Souls
    15 Wizardry VII: Crusaders of the Dark Savant
    16 Betrayal at Krondor
    17 Baldur's Gate
    18 Darklands
    19 Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II – The Sith Lords
    20 Ultima Underworld I: The Stygian Abyss
    21 The Temple of Elemental Evil
    22 Icewind Dale
    22 System Shock 2
    24 The Witcher
    25 Might and Magic VI: Mandate of Heaven
    26 Gothic
    27 Knights of the Chalice
    28 Might and Magic: World of Xeen
    29 Alpha Protocol
    30 Realms of Arkania II: Star Trail
    31 Dark Sun: Shattered Lands
    32 Wizardry VI: Bane of the Cosmic Forge
    33 Dragon Age: Origins
    33 Ultima VII: The Black Gate
    35 The Elder Scrolls II: Daggerfall
    36 Pool of Radiance
    37 Might and Magic VII: For Blood and Honor
    37 Ultima IV: Quest of the Avatar
    39 Ultima VII Part Two: Serpent Isle
    40 Icewind Dale II
    40 The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings
    42 Wasteland
    43 Quest For Glory IV: Shadows of Darkness
    43 Ultima V: Warriors of Destiny
    45 Might and Magic III: Isles of Terra
    45 Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
    47 Anachronox
    47 Arx Fatalis
    47 Geneforge
    47 Pools of Darkness
    51 Albion
    52 Drakensang: River of Time
    52 Risen
    54 King of Dragon Pass
    54 Ultima Underworld II: Labyrinth of Worlds
    56 Deus Ex: Human Revolution
    56 Divine Divinity
    56 Mount & Blade: Warband
    59 Dungeon Master
    59 Mass Effect
    61 ADOM - Ancient Domains of Mystery
    61 Neverwinter Nights 2
    61 System Shock
    64 Wizardry I: Proving Grounds of the Mad Overlord
    64 Wizardry IV: The Return of Werdna
    66 Champions of Krynn
    66 Lands of Lore: The Throne of Chaos
    68 Star Control II: The Ur-Quan Masters
    69 Dark Heart of Uukrul
    69 Heroine's Quest: The Herald of Ragnarok
    71 Divinity 2: The Dragon Knight Saga
    71 Wizards & Warriors

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    Now that we have 72 great cRPGs ranked, I'd like to add short recommendations/reviews for each game (maybe screenshots as well later), so one can decide what to play next. I asked for this on the DISCUSS thread and got various good entries (as well as some poetry), and now that the full list is out, I think we can finish this.

    Just write a short review/recommendation of any of the 72 games (50 Top + 22 runner ups) you like, that will help people understand why that game is great. It should be short, one paragraph long at most, and posted in spoiler tags.

    Here's a good example:

    So, if you wanna spread your amazingly good taste to others, this is it!
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  3. Bubbles I'm forever blowing

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    Glad to see Anachronox sneak in. Should have been top ten though.
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    Nice! Great job!


    I have to say that it pains me to see some true genre defining classics overshadowed by newer, arguably derivative games.
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    Holy shit, amazing work felipepepe.

    To everyone who said the new voting wouldn't make a difference, there is now a blobber in the top 10.
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  6. skacky Arcane

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    Amazing work. There's only a few games I disagree with in that list, but most of the titles here are awesome. There's still several games I haven't played yet.
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  7. Ehon Asko Novice

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    Oh well at least Mount & Blade beat Mass effect my vote was not in vain.
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    Hilarious that Heroine's Quest beat Divinity 2. All Larian games have pretty horrid average ratings too. Is Larian the dev we all pretend to like, but secretly feel "meh" about?
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    Let's do this again in a year or so.
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    Now THAT is a damn good list. :incline: Interesting that the top 10 mostly stays the same no matter what voting method with go with.
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    Looking Glass Studios - No Respect :outrage:


    SSI - No Respect :outrage:
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    New Vegas in the top ten. As. I. predicted.
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    Quite like the end result. Wonder what to make of Arcanum's dethroning.
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    Dragon Age beats Ultimas 4, 5, 7 and 7 part 2? *scratches head*
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    Why that prediction? I wasn't following.
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    Thanks Felipepepe. I really wanted IWD2 to not be the last IE game though. Damn.
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    PST #1 my ASS.
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    Those Developer Rankings

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    felipepepe honestly believed his ranking system would drive New Vegas down on account of it being "mediocre." I didn't think so, considering the things a lot of people here value (writing, C&C), New Vegas does quite well.
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  20. sqeecoo Arbiter

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    Very good list.
    I see Dark Souls is up there, and quite high too. Is that even an RPG? I though it was something more like Diablo (which would probably deserve to be on the list if it can be considered an RPG).

    Regardless, I tried to play Dark Souls but the interface was shit, especially the mouse movement. Can you get it to feel more like a PC game with mods or what? For me it was pretty much unplayable, though it looked interesting.
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    Proof that any combination of two from story, combat, setting can yield an amazing game.
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    God, I want this to be my new wallpaper.
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  23. felipepepe Prestigious Gentleman Codex's Heretic Patron

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    New Vegas was actually around #11-12 for most part of the voting, and Fallout 1 was #1 for a long time as well. And Alpha Protocol was ranking below Dragon Age. Must be all those alts Roguey made... :M
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    Good job. I wounder if you did this for all games, how much more points would the years 98/99 get.
    Now we need a chart of the decline of the codex.
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