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Review RPG Codex Review: Darth Roxor on Disappointment, thy name is Pillars of Eternity

Discussion in 'RPG News & Content' started by DarkUnderlord, Apr 21, 2015.

  1. Irenaeus Self-Ejected Patron Dumbfuck Repressed Homosexual The Real Fanboy

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    PC RPG Website of the Year, 2015 Divinity: Original Sin Torment: Tides of Numenera
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    Ok, I just woke up and I'm ready to take any of you retarded Obsyhaters trying in vain to attack this masterpiece. Come at me bros.
     
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  2. Menckenstein Lunacy of Caen: Todd Reaver

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    PoE is so fat it has to put on a belt with a boomerang.
     
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    PoE is so thin it can pass between two closely parked cars.
     
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  4. Kattze Andhaira

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    Blaine spent 1000 bucks on Wasteland 2? Why? :lol:

    And Lady Error have you played MMX: Legacy? It's very good, and superior to Wasteland 2
     
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  6. Vault Dweller Commissar, Red Star Studio Developer

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    From the review:

    To sum up:

    - unbalanced stats, disconnected skills
    - simplistic combat system relying on HP bloat and more powerful weapons
    - non-existent AI
    - rare skill checks
    - simplistic filler quests
    - useless junk in containers

    In other words, a fitting and faithful sequel to Wasteland delivering more of the same. Buy it if you loved Wasteland and want to party like it's 1987. Don't buy it if you expect a game like Fallout or JA2.

    I assume you weren't a fan of Wasteland or never played it.
     
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  7. Kz3r0 Arcane

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    What, are you going to giuve more than 11/10, da faq?
     
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  8. Vault Dweller Commissar, Red Star Studio Developer

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    Nothing less than 15/10 would do it justice.
     
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  9. almondblight Arcane

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    When did the characterization of VD change from "the guy who hates every game" to "the guy who loves every game"?
     
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  10. Menckenstein Lunacy of Caen: Todd Reaver

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    Old man got soft.
     
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  11. Jim the Dinosaur Arcane

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    Not necessarily saying you're contradicting yourself, but at least post the link to your review when you're cherry-picking so we can cherry-pick back ;). http://www.rpgcodex.net/content.php?id=9686
     
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  12. Vault Dweller Commissar, Red Star Studio Developer

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    Well, you see, me and 800 other people who voted for WL2 (but clearly it's just me) have failed the Codex (represented by a few individuals who absolutely hated WL2). Some went as far as to claim that WL2 getting all them votes is my fault too.

    So these same individuals, who are responsible for voting BG into the Codex Hall of Fame, are very upset that PoE isn't as awesome as the shitty BG games. I mentioned that it's better than BG, which caused massive butthurt but everyone knows that BG is 10/10 and nothing can beat the perfection.
     
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    WL2 is very very good. It's just that PoE is much better.
     
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    I sense a Biawic in the air, better to run for the ruin VD.
     
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    Probably not, simply because the older games were made by passionate gamers for gamers, while todays game's are made for casuals.
     
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  16. Vault Dweller Commissar, Red Star Studio Developer

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    This thread is now about WL2.

    I enjoyed it much more than I enjoyed PoE system. Doesn't change the fact that it's unbalanced and the stats are disconnected.

    Where is the contradiction? The system itself is very simple and it had to be mentioned to let people know that if they're looking for complexity, they should look elsewhere. The fact that it doesn't rely on complex mechanics is fairly damning in itself, but they do manage to set up pretty cool fights that I enjoyed (which is more than can be said about PoE).

    Shit, son, you don't know how to read or what?

    Diablo 3 also has a large variety of enemies but shitty AI. Basically, WL2 shows how to do more with less. PoE shows how to do less with more. Instead of relying on AI or special abilities, WL2 enemies get weapons that determine their roles and pose different threats to you.

    IIRC, I was talking about dialogue skills.

    The game does have unprecedented reactivity (again, much better than PoE) and tons of choices, but overall the quest design is fairly simplistic and uninspiring (few exceptions apply).
     
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  17. Vault Dweller Commissar, Red Star Studio Developer

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    Yeah, BG was a hardcore RPG, especially compared to the casual shite like Realms of Arkania, Wizardry, and Darklands.

    :kingcomrade:
     
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    :lol::lol::lol:
     
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  19. MF The Boar Studio Developer

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    This. WL2 was flawed in so many more ways than PoE I can't even begin to count, but when all is said and done, it was more fun. I actually gave a fuck about what happened, the world actually responded to what my character was doing and I actually had memorable moments. It felt more like a game.

    In all his efforts to prevent hard counter 'rock, paper scissors' gameplay, Sawyer ended up with Tic Tac Toe.
     
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    Ok I am going to start laying in popcorn supplies for when the next review hits.
     
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  21. Seari Erudite

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    Doesn't change my point.
     
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  22. Black Arcane

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    At least I got a new sig thanks to this thread. 66+ pages of butthurt just for this, worth it.
     
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  23. hiver Guest

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    what a hypocrite and what a sales pitch...

    Look on the works of baatezu and see them for what they are, you poor petitioners and lemures.

    : Casts Greater Dispel Magic, Dispel law, True Sight, Dimensional Anchor, Protection from Law, Chaos Hammer :



    - meaning, if you cant relate to feeling great while playing shit, you are not a true gamer, mkay?


    :lol: you cant chart any fucking course but go through convoluted utter stupid shit whatever you do.


    Thats because you had unrealistic expectations, its your fault, not the game - you fools that expect perfection and completely different games.


    What about if you just expect a good game?


    If you think tides of numenera is Torment 2 then you are either a complete moron, or a complete shill, baatezu.

    What games? The non existing games that dont exist? That might exist in the future? That we have no way of knowing will they exist, what about they will be and if they will be any good?
    :lol:

    What risk? The risk of having the development cycle paid upfront while they can do as they please with all of the development and get extra money after release?
    While if they didnt take that risk... they would be still developing mobile games?

    :Tanarrii rasping laughter:

    This is the real and actual conclusion to that "review" as you can see for yourself now:
    http://www.rpgcodex.net/content.php?id=9686



    Nothing but a vomit of declaratory statements and very stupid,distorted and ingorant opinions unsupported by anything except the fact that he liked the game. He enjoyed it - the review.
    To be true, him enjoying it is not a problem at all. Enjoy whatever the fuck you want. Him trying to present that as actual quality, through this kind of arguments and this kind of shilling and fallacies - is.



    One of those opinions is that according to VD... Philip K Dick just made "weird what if" stories - just like W2 does!

    Most likely survival scenarios...? what the fucking fuckety fuck ? :lol:
    Reducing a legendary science fiction writer like Philip to the garbage of wasteland 2? Equating his work with this shit?


    A few more critiques from the review to get a bit more of truth in here:

    hahahahaaaa....

    Notice the classy wording too. Abundance, unprecedented reactivity.


    And that paragraph about writing and dialogues is eight - 8 - sentences long, that tell you absolutely nothing about dialogues or the writing.


    Compare this to that spin doctored sales pitch above yourself.
     
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  24. karnak Arcane Patron

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    I still can't understand why people are wasting their time discussing this mediocre game, when it's entirely obvious that the best RPG ever made (after Ultima 9) it's NWN RPG Mystery Of The Lost Herbs
     
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  25. Jim the Dinosaur Arcane

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    Like I said, it wasn't about you contradicting yourself, just that your cherry-picking in response to someone saying they bought the game off of your recommendation seemed a bit heavy-handed.

    edit: anyway, I think your review was relevant in the context of the importance of review "tone". You could read your review as "good for what it is", stupid retro Wasteland romp, but the tone says something different to (probably) most people.

    I know that the logic of your reviews is that you're judging them within the context of budget/dev time/scope, and base your tone off of that, but that doesn't always come across.
     
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