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Codex Interview RPG Codex Interview: Chris Avellone on Pillars Cut Content, Game Development Hierarchies and More

Discussion in 'RPG News & Content' started by Infinitron, Apr 30, 2018.

  1. Fenix Liturgist Vatnik

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    Lol, I guest it would be even worse then first game.
     
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  2. Fairfax Arcane

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    I think she became both. From their AMA:
     
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  3. Kit Walker Totally Not Captain Shrek

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    How is XCOM not mainstream? It has freaking altered how people see Turn based games. Are you high or what?
     
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  4. Blakemoreland Hybrid Boss Erudite Patron

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    Reality check: mainstream is relative. D:OS2 is mainstream compared to most isometric cRPGs, but not in comparison to FPSs like Skyrim.
     
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  5. Quillon Liturgist

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    1. If Sawyer always gotten his way, he'd be developing his FYSMD RPG, even after Deadfire its unlikely he'll make that game.

    3. That's a pure bullshit you made based on whatever.

    4. Itsyouropinionmaan.jpg They had to cut something obviously so they cut somethings to made them equal with the other things of its type.

    5. He doesn't explain it, we don't know what Sawyer's reasons for interfering with Efen's process was/what Sawyer said to him.

    6. Look at 4.


    FNV was no more buggy than FO3 on release. I think Obs got way more flak/got the buggy rep for it(which Bethesda haven't for some reason) when it combined with their earlier buggy games. Sawyer came in and tried to save NWN2 :P Aliens Crucible was in better shape than AP but got cancelled...yadda yadda yadda

    If AP got cancelled instead of AC, Avellone would have had directed FNV :D
     
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  6. Nazrim Eldrak Educated

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    " If people don't use it, then you give them feedback, then adjust their raises next paid period as necessary, either positively or negatively."
    I dont think this is a smart move , because of motivation.
    I believe that could harm productivity immensly if the wrong people get a raise(positively or negativley).
    Also envy....

    I also disagree with a too strong hierarchy, because the information the top person receives is always filtered,
    that means if the filtering is not done properly the whole project could take a wrong direction.
    And the higher the hierarchy the stroger the filtering.
     
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  7. Blakemoreland Hybrid Boss Erudite Patron

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    That assumes that he would want to take risks instead of repeating IE clones and making complains about his target audience. He is doing exactly what he wants, which is playing safe.

    Everyone suspected that Avellone was treated like a dog during PoE—it seems that by the condescending way they treated the narrative lead he wasn’t the only one. This is now confirmed by this interview.

    That’s your fanboy logic speaking. Every game of this size is released with bugs, but there are bugs and there are bugs. F:NV’s bugs were jarring.
     
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  8. Quillon Liturgist

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    So much good playing safe done to him: 4 cancelled games under his belt.
     
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  9. Prime Junta Arcane

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    Sawyer is a wage slave yo. He doesn't get to decide what kind of game to make.
     
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  10. Junmarko Ravioli di canguro Patron

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    Grab the Codex by the pussy Bubbles In Memoria Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire
    Ask Blizzard.

    Barely. Gaming is just more accessible - in general.

    Turn-based is still niche, like a lot of other genres.

    Ask Ion Storm Eidos Montreal or Looking Glass, Irrational Games Arkane.
     
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  11. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    Codex 2016 - The Age of Grimoire Serpent in the Staglands Dead State Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 BattleTech A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire
    Josh might be the "Creative Lead" now. Titles, meh.
     
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  12. TT1 Savant Patron

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    A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire
    I have a question for him: Who would you invite to an orgy?
     
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  13. boobio Cipher

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    from official obsidian discord;
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  14. Kem0sabe Arcane

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    Bullet point numbered response to a forum post is fucking decline.
     
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  15. Think big! Smoking Dicks

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    I think it's Feargus. He's stated that he wants to do an AAA RPG like Skyrim at some point. I don't remember the exact interview but I remember him saying something to that effect. From various things he's said it seems like he has ambitions that are odds with other members of the studio. He seems to want to turn Obsidian into an AAA RPG developer, but has a lot of employees which are more geared toward the niche thing that the Codex likes. So there's this constant push and pull.

    This is conjecture of course. And it may not just be him. Still, since he's "the boss," his desires are going to carry a lot of weight for the direction their games take. For instance, I wouldn't be surprised if the VO requirement came directly from him.

    Yeah, I gotta admit, whatever else you can say about Sawyer, F:NV was fucking awesome and is easily their best game (bite me). So credit where credit's due.

    QA is the responsibility of the publisher.
     
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  16. abnaxus Arcane

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  17. Nano Learned

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    Not really. Most of Obsidian's employees want to work on big-budget RPGs like the ones they were working on back in 2004-2011. The Tim/Leonard project is going to be a return to that.
     
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  18. Quillon Liturgist

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    But we can be more constructive guys! Hand me that brick.
     
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  19. lukaszek Arcane

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    • i do not understand your point
    • can you explain?
    • example would be nice
     
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  20. TheSentinel Cipher

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    his concept of mainstream is the console-centric concept. If it's not popular among the console crowds, it's not mainstream.
     
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  21. Blakemoreland Hybrid Boss Erudite Patron

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    Bullshit. That’s a responsibility of the developer. Do you think that the KOTOR team had the luxury of QA? No, they didn’t. They were prudent enough to realize that the game needed to be polished when shipped. Obsidian developers got the sequel of the same title and did what they always did in the past: they invested all their energy implementing content and in the end transferred the responsibility of polishing the game to the publisher, and were ignored. Guess what? The players don’t care, the publisher does not care, and it is your name that is on the line. By the time their name was completely tarnished they finally understood their mistakes and started using softwares to hunt bugs, considering bugs fixing one of their tasks, etc. Better later than never.
     
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  22. TheSentinel Cipher

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    QA was the responsibility of the publisher in F:NV's case.
     
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  23. Blakemoreland Hybrid Boss Erudite Patron

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    It doesn't matter. They had previous disapointments in that regard and they should have known better. If the publisher is washing his hands you put all your hands on deck. Avellone mentioned in some of his public criticisms that they didn't take this task seriously and he warned. He was right about that too.
     
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  24. Nano Learned

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    Literally who cares about this shit. It sold tons of copies and is considered by many to be among the best RPGs of all time.
     
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  25. Blakemoreland Hybrid Boss Erudite Patron

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    Obsidian cares because they burned their reputation in the process and now they can't get a big contract. You can't act like a player when you run a business. Grow up.
     
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