Decline PS4 wins the console war against XboxONE, yet it is a hollow victory as Consolesdämmerung is upon us

[abija]

Why would removing kinect from the base kit be the end of all-in-one entertainment system?
Outside of gaming it was just a terrible remote and should be fairly easy anyway to allow remote control with tablets and stuff...

 

[WhiskeyWolf]

Why would removing kinect from the base kit be the end of all-in-one entertainment system?
Outside of gaming it was just a terrible remote and should be fairly easy anyway to allow remote control with tablets and stuff...

Shut up, nobody needs your common sense.

 

[Infinitron]

Well, the article says:

The HDMI input and passthrough remains, but doesn't work as well without voice control, while centralised control of your TV and sound system is now gone without Kinect. The innovative multi-OS virtual machine set-up is a breathtaking technological achievement, but always came across as unwieldy in action and now falls by the wayside in general usage now that the voice input has gone. Out of the box, the Kinect-free Xbox One is really no more of a media centre than its predecessor

 

[Necroscope]

All Sony needs now to perform fatality on M$ are a few good exclusives.

 

[DalekFlay]

Why would removing kinect from the base kit be the end of all-in-one entertainment system?
Outside of gaming it was just a terrible remote and should be fairly easy anyway to allow remote control with tablets and stuff...

The Kinect was the center of the "improved TV" thing. Ripping it out and saying never mind is a pretty clear sign the TV shit is less important too. Which it should be, because nobody cared about it. And with Netflix and shit on every electronic device under the sun now, including TVs themselves, the need for an Xbox in that realm is dead. Their dream of living room dominance is dead, honestly. The Kinect integrated TV shit was their hail mary and it's done.

 

[abija]

My whole experience with a xbox one was watching some people dicking around in a showroom. What exactly am I missing about kinect and TV that makes it so special?
A voice activated remote sure as hell doesn't make it the center of "improved TV" and I suppose the UI is usable even without voice commands (since recognition is not available in all languages yet).

 

[Dexter]

You must've missed the introduction of the thing way back when:

 

[Necroscope]

Kinect was a major point in their marketing strategy, which is more than enough to render it important. Its removal is a fucking disaster PR-wise, as the integrity of the whole product is all over the place in the public eye.

 

[Darth Slaughter]

You must've missed the introduction of the thing way back when:

They actually did motion capture on a real dog???

 

[Necroscope]

You must've missed the introduction of the thing way back when:

 

[abija]

Yeah... still waiting for the reason kinect would be a requirement to their "all in one" dream.
I mean one would think being able to actually handle TV signal by it's own would be a bigger deal (so you don't need another box near THE ONE).

 

[DragoFireheart]

Kinect was a major point in their marketing strategy, which is more than enough to render it important. Its removal is a fucking disaster PR-wise, as the integrity of the whole product is all over the place in the public eye.

This screams Sega and Sega32x drama.

 

[deuxhero]

The Genesis had games though...

 

[DragoFireheart]

The Genesis had games though...

But the 32X didn't.

 

[Xor]

In hindsight, packing in Kinect and making media integration central to the Xbox One proposition looks like an awful mistake.

Ha. Obvious in hindsight, huh? Is that why there were so many people saying it was a terrible idea when they unveiled the console?

You'd think Microsoft would have learned from the PS3 debacle - gamers don't want a media box, they want a fucking video game console. That plays video games. And unlike the PS3 and bluray, which was actually a thing some people wanted, nobody was screaming for a kinect. All the extra features are just fluff. And fluff is fine, as long as it doesn't inflate the price of the console. But when you're sticking a $100 motion tracker or a $400 disc reader into every unit and expecting customers to pay the difference for something they don't even want, you're going to lose sales.

 

[WhiskeyWolf]

Kinect was a major point in their marketing strategy, which is more than enough to render it important. Its removal is a fucking disaster PR-wise, as the integrity of the whole product is all over the place in the public eye.

XboxOne was already a disaster as soon as they announced it, hardly anybody will raise a brow by this point.

 

[Average Manatee]

My whole experience with a xbox one was watching some people dicking around in a showroom. What exactly am I missing about kinect and TV that makes it so special?
A voice activated remote sure as hell doesn't make it the center of "improved TV" and I suppose the UI is usable even without voice commands (since recognition is not available in all languages yet).

A bunch of old guys thought the future was talking to your appliances like in old sci-fi. Literally the exact same shit we have now, except talking instead of using a remote. Turns out everyone thinks that's dumb.

And from what I've heard the XBox UI is one of the shittiest in the business, as if to encourage people to use voice recognition.

 

[Necroscope]

Well, if you're Jabba the Hutt it's easier to shout commands than reach for the remote. Like this guy:

XboxOne was already a disaster as soon as they announced it, hardly anybody will raise a brow by this point.

It was a potential disaster, now it becomes an actual disaster.

 

[Tytus]

Well, if you're Jabba the Hutt it's easier to shout commands than reach for the remote. Like this guy:

XboxOne was already a disaster as soon as they announced it, hardly anybody will raise a brow by this point.

It was a potential disaster, now it becomes an actual disaster.

No, no, no. You don't get it, he is just pretending to be fat, you see?

 

[Gragt]

He's ironically fat.

 

[Necroscope]

No, no, no. You don't get it, he is just pretending to be fat, you see?

He's hell of a pretender then:

 

[Tytus]

No, no, no. You don't get it, he is just pretending to be fat, you see?

He's hell of a pretender then:

He is dedicated to his art.

 

[Wirdschowerdn]

I wonder if Swery65's D4 still is a Kinect exlusive?

I hope not. I want that PC port.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

Man, it just keeps going.

Spoiler

 

[Cadmus]

I don't understand...

I felt sympathy for that fat fuck, he didn't seem obnoxious or too stupid.