MCA leaves Obsidian

[J_C]

Unless it's ambiguous or they're nonbinary and prefer they/them/whatever, people who put their preferred pronouns in their twitter bios trigger me something fierce. Shut up, cissies.

So... what's your point? What context does that have here? Is it an assertion that because they agree on some things that certain possibilities are now impossible?

The idea that they don't get along is now based on absolutely nothing other than one awkward moment during a presentation, since it's clear that Avellone defers to Sawyer on system-related matters.

Also it's trollbait for people who wish that Chris "lack of balance is the great destroyer" Avellone was more involved in PoE and Sawyer less.

Well duuhhh. I thought it was obvious that they don't have any problems with eachother. Theat awkward moment in the presentation meant nothing, the drama about that was just usual Codex drama.

 

[Roguey]

Perhaps Sawyer is a 100% bitch and a bro like Avellone would never have been able to comfortably work with such a douche, hence the awkwardness?
Sawyer has no soul.

Scroll down Chris's massive following list and check out that femfreq follow.

 

[Doctor Sbaitso]

Unless it's ambiguous or they're nonbinary and prefer they/them/whatever, people who put their preferred pronouns in their twitter bios trigger me something fierce. Shut up, cissies.

So... what's your point? What context does that have here? Is it an assertion that because they agree on some things that certain possibilities are now impossible?

The idea that they don't get along is now based on absolutely nothing other than one awkward moment during a presentation, since it's clear that Avellone defers to Sawyer on system-related matters.

Also it's trollbait for people who wish that Chris "lack of balance is the great destroyer" Avellone was more involved in PoE and Sawyer less.

Not that I am trying to argue any case, but chris also distanced himself from what was his work in the game.

You will remember when he made a 'magnanamous' statement (crediting other writers) about his character content being cut by 75 percent and that the finished product so little represents his work on it that he should not be credited with the work and he does not consider it his.

At the time I commented that I was sensing undertones there. It was an odd way to put it and the difference between the verbiage he used and rhe verbiage he could have was the subtle message of distancing.

I think that you are intelligent and probably the best around at finding game dev quotes to support your arguments. I also sometimes think you need a slap for trolling and arrogance.

The former I will always respect. The latter might cause people to ignore you. See how that works? All is not black and white.

 

[Ismaul]

You will remember when he made a 'magnanamous' statement (crediting other writers) about his character content being cut by 75 percent and that the finished product so little represents his work on it that he should not be credited with the work and he does not consider it his.

At the time I commented that I was sensing undertones there.

While I agree that he'd be reasonably pissed for his stuff being cut, that might not all rest on Sawyer's shoulders, if at all. They have project managers and shit.

 

[Ismaul]

Perhaps Avellone is a 100% bitch and a sperg like Sawyer would never have been able to comfortably work with such a douche, hence the awkwardness?

 

[Athelas]

You will remember when he made a 'magnanamous' statement (crediting other writers) about his character content being cut by 75 percent and that the finished product so little represents his work on it that he should not be credited with the work and he does not consider it his.

At the time I commented that I was sensing undertones there.

While I agree that he'd be reasonably pissed for his stuff being cut, that might not all rest on Sawyer's shoulders, if at all. They have project managers and shit.

Sawyer was the project manager for PoE (or, project director, as it's more typically called).

 

[Doctor Sbaitso]

You will remember when he made a 'magnanamous' statement (crediting other writers) about his character content being cut by 75 percent and that the finished product so little represents his work on it that he should not be credited with the work and he does not consider it his.

At the time I commented that I was sensing undertones there.

While I agree that he'd be reasonably pissed for his stuff being cut, that might not all rest on Sawyer's shoulders, if at all. They have project managers and shit.

It's Sawyer's project. What underling would cut MCA's stuff without Sawyer giving the OK?

 

[Roguey]

Avellone likes to give credit where credit is due, I doubt he cares much at all about anything of his that did or didn't get used in Eternity.

This is a guy who threw out everything Brian and Annie wrote in Alpha Protocol after about two years of development. Geese and ganders. These things happen.

 

[Ismaul]

Sawyer was the project manager for PoE (or, project director, as it's more typically called).

It's Sawyer's project. What underling would cut MCA's stuff without Sawyer giving the OK?

Feargus, Brennecke, BAdler, the 3 other owners, the 200 mouths and their families to feed, peer pressure...

 

[Morality Games]

Roguey's right, anyway. I don't see that Avellone cares much about whether stuff he wrote got utilized in Pillars of Eternity or not beyond the annoyance that he had to spend time writing it and that they should have narrowed down the scope of the project *before* he wasted his time when he has so many other things to do.

"Throwing stuff out" is how creative processes at a collaborative level work.

Until proven otherwise, I'm not even convinced Avellone even "wants" to make games like Planescape: Torment or Kotor 2 anymore because when other opportunities arose he deferred to junior writer and designers.

The only project I *know* he was enthusiastic enough for to actively seek out a writing role was FTL, something that is stylistically nothing like the games he made in the past.

 

[Athelas]

Well, if that's his new passion, it wouldn't be a complete disaster. The world could use more emotionally engaging roguelikes.

 

[Excidium II]

Procedurally generated dialogue trees

 

[Delterius]

MCA hired by toady to incline Dwarf Fortress Confirmed.

 

[Luka-boy]

Procedurally generated dialogue trees

Conversations based on procedurally generated content are already a sight to behold. Dwarf Fortress example:

 

[Immortal]

Unless it's ambiguous or they're nonbinary and prefer they/them/whatever, people who put their preferred pronouns in their twitter bios trigger me something fierce. Shut up, cissies.

So... what's your point? What context does that have here? Is it an assertion that because they agree on some things that certain possibilities are now impossible?

The idea that they don't get along is now based on absolutely nothing other than one awkward moment during a presentation, since it's clear that Avellone defers to Sawyer on system-related matters.

Also it's trollbait for people who wish that Chris "lack of balance is the great destroyer" Avellone was more involved in PoE and Sawyer less.

As someone has already said.. You must be seriously lacking in mental faculties if your taking this shit seriously.
I don't think anyone here honestly thinks MCA left over Sawyer - it's just funny to talk about.

 

[Latro]

MCA needs to do a Let's Play of Brianna Wu's magnum opus on release.

 

[Roguey]

I'm going to add some more drama and point out that Avellone actually left Obsidian's private Steam group.

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/OEI#members
And here's Chris who used to be there http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197993590526 (of course I'm a bit annoyed that he keeps his games, chieves, and Steam friends to himself)

This isn't a normal thing. Patrick Mills, Tess Treadwell, and Nathaniel Chapman are still part of the group and they haven't worked there in years (in fact Chapman's the owner). It's a "once you're in you're in for life" thing but Avellone decided to tell 'em all to fuck off.

 

[J_C]

Oh, the mistery, oh the drama!

 

[Excidium II]

Maybe MCA was kicked for spamming group chat with inanity

 

[Zorba the Hutt]

Do they have a curator feed? That sort of thing has been known to cause tension.

 

[SausageInYourFace]

Fargo was on Matt Chat today and of course Matt asked him if he will hire MCA now.
Fargos response "The fact he isn't there [Obs.] any longer doesn't make it harder for us to work together." and then, for a split second, he makes this face:

 

[M0RBUS]

Nah, I think you're reading too much into his sentence AND his face.
But I do think and hope that MCA is going to inXile and work on the Van Buren thing...

 

[Seari]

Unless it's ambiguous or they're nonbinary and prefer they/them/whatever, people who put their preferred pronouns in their twitter bios trigger me something fierce. Shut up, cissies.

So... what's your point? What context does that have here? Is it an assertion that because they agree on some things that certain possibilities are now impossible?

The idea that they don't get along is now based on absolutely nothing other than one awkward moment during a presentation, since it's clear that Avellone defers to Sawyer on system-related matters.

Also it's trollbait for people who wish that Chris "lack of balance is the great destroyer" Avellone was more involved in PoE and Sawyer less.

As someone has already said.. You must be seriously lacking in mental faculties if your taking this shit seriously.
I don't think anyone here honestly thinks MCA left over Sawyer - it's just funny to talk about.

Probably not the sole reason, but why not? Sawyer seems to have taken the wheel at Obsidian and MCA might not like where the ship is headed.

 

[Ninjerk]

Fargo was on Matt Chat today and of course Matt asked him if he will hire MCA now.
Fargos response "The fact he isn't there [Obs.] any longer doesn't make it harder for us to work together." and then, for a split second, he makes this face:

MicoSelva come get your brofists

 

[Immortal]

Fargo was on Matt Chat today and of course Matt asked him if he will hire MCA now.
Fargos response "The fact he isn't there [Obs.] any longer doesn't make it harder for us to work together." and then, for a split second, he makes this face:

MicoSelva come get your brofists

I was just thinking that.. Also love how he answers the question..

"Even if we were this isn't the place to ahem hmmph"