Divinity: Original Sin Pre-Release Thread

[ZoddGuts]

ForkTong, if your still sending your demo to Youtube guys, try sending one to ForceSC2strategy :

http://www.youtube.com/user/ForceSC2strategy/videos?view=0

He's played a ton of demos/early previews/Beta's on his channel.

 

[ForkTong]

First LP-video is up:


I guess 5000+ views will get them some new pledges.

How is it actually? I don't wanna listen to my own voice for an hour.

(INB4 "neither do we".)

 

[Jashiin]

First LP-video is up:


I guess 5000+ views will get them some new pledges.

How is it actually? I don't wanna listen to my own voice for an hour.

(INB4 "neither do we".)

Highly entertaining. I want to play it seeing this. I think you are doing great, funny and informative. The talk is about mechanics, the game the coop.. and it's honest and straightforward. Going to get a brew and watch the whole thing in a bit.

En goed te doen die stem hoor

 

[Cursed Beaver]

How far does the reactivity go in this game? Have they been more specific about the NPC reactions?

For example, a NPC won't let you steal his stuff. But what if you steal his stuff when he's away, then will he react to the theft when he comes back? Will he suspect you?

Or what if you use a non lethal spell (like rain) inside a town?

 

[felipepepe]

Was good man, very entertaining. Of course the empathy between both players wasn't the best, the guy being tottaly new to the game & a very bad player and you one of the developers, but still was fun.

 

[ForkTong]

How far does the reactivity go in this game? Have they been more specific about the NPC reactions?

For example, a NPC won't let you steal his stuff. But what if you steal his stuff when he's away, then will he react to the theft when he comes back? Will he suspect you?

Or what if you use a non lethal spell (like rain) inside a town?

I like the "will he suspect you" question. Don't give us ideas.

We actually do have code that makes it so that shopkeepers can recognize certain items. If you steal the mayor's hat and try to sell it in his own village, the shopkeeper might go "hey that's the mayor's hat". We stole that piece of code from Divine Divinity, but we still have to figure out how to get it working properly in D:OS because right now _every_ shopkeeper would recognize that hat...

Non lethal spell: atm they don't react to rain because they don't care and don't know it was you.

 

[Gord]

Hey, ForkTong, slightly off-topic, but are you guys thinking about releasing an update for the download (Steam/GOG) versions of DD that fixes the bugs they suffer from (that seemingly have been fixed in the disk versions)? I have a few quests I can't complete because quest-givers have gone missing or aren't offering the right dialogue.

 

[felipepepe]

We stole that piece of code from Divine Divinity

Wow, as you said seems like Divine Divinity had some amazing features that people never figured out.

 

[SCO]

Ironman? It's only me?

 

[ForkTong]

I said "Who wants item fever in their game, what is this, Diablo?"

Well, it's been nice knowing y'all.

 

[Jashiin]

So is there an ironman mode in the works ?

Also ForkTong there is only about a 1000 25 dollar games available.. so after another 1000 backers there the cheapest the game is going to be is $35 dollars ? Perhaps this is a bit steep... how about a $30/29 dollar digital tier ? I think $35 is bit much if you want to catch any more "impuls" buyers ?

 

[Mangoose]

We actually do have code that makes it so that shopkeepers can recognize certain items. If you steal the mayor's hat and try to sell it in his own village, the shopkeeper might go "hey that's the mayor's hat". We stole that piece of code from Divine Divinity, but we still have to figure out how to get it working properly in D:OS because right now _every_ shopkeeper would recognize that hat...

Perhaps set up some groups where a member of the same group will always recognize items from another person of the same group, but not outside of the group.

 

[Mangoose]

Also, I convinced one friend to kickstart so far.

 

[ForkTong]

We actually do have code that makes it so that shopkeepers can recognize certain items. If you steal the mayor's hat and try to sell it in his own village, the shopkeeper might go "hey that's the mayor's hat". We stole that piece of code from Divine Divinity, but we still have to figure out how to get it working properly in D:OS because right now _every_ shopkeeper would recognize that hat...

Perhaps set up some groups where a member of the same group will always recognize items from another person of the same group, but not outside of the group.

Of course, so they could react to it even if you were wearing it. But we have other cats to punish first (that's actually a Dutch expression).

 

[Zep Zepo]

Wouldn't you just add a "Town" element to both shopkeepers and "Item"s

if (item.Town = Shopkeeper.Town) and TrySell = true
{
THIEF()
}

Pretty basic..but that's the general idea. How hard it is to add that simple logic to the existing code base, I don't know.

Zep--

 

[ForkTong]

So items belong to a faction now? What if they turn hostile?

Seriously though, it's in, and NPCs know what items are theirs, so other NPCs can also know what items belong to another NPC etc. Just gotta catch it. And that's not always as simple as just adding one function somewhere

 

[ForkTong]

And rocking hard in 1986:

I don't know if Kirill is actually in that video.

 

[SCO]

Wouldn't you just add a "Town" element to both shopkeepers and "Item"s

if (item.Town = Shopkeeper.Town) and TrySell = true
{
THIEF()
}

Pretty basic..but that's the general idea. How hard it is to add that simple logic to the existing code base, I don't know.

Zep--

Please don't try to give lessons from on top your first semester CS curriculum. BTW, '=' is the assignment operator, which you wouldn't need anyway because you're already in the function.

 

[Zep Zepo]

Wouldn't you just add a "Town" element to both shopkeepers and "Item"s

if (item.Town = Shopkeeper.Town) and TrySell = true
{
THIEF()
}

Pretty basic..but that's the general idea. How hard it is to add that simple logic to the existing code base, I don't know.

Zep--

Please don't try to give lessons from on top your first semester CS curriculum. BTW, '=' is the assignment operator, which you wouldn't need anyway because you're already in the function.

I've been a programmer for 30 years, that's pretty much the BASIC jist of it, as I've said. When you finish your first semester, then tell me. I may have dumbed it down a bit for types like you.

Zep--

 

[SCO]

Sure thing man, continue to 'dumb down' from my ignore list twerp.

 

[felipepepe]

Item theft must have a limit anyway, "that potato is stolen!" is Skyrim level derpness...

I don't know if Kirill is actually in that video.

Yeah... Since it's a 1986 show I thought he was there, but it's true, he left mid-86, so I think he isn't....

 

[Stabbey]

Forktong, for Decision points will the game eventually have an option to agree with your partner if the first responses are in disagreement? Right now the only two outcomes are "immediately agree" or "I will fight you to the ends of the earth". You've already made up your mind before even hearing what your partner's opinion is, and it doesn't matter what it is, your only option are variations on disagreeing.

I'd like the option to go "Huh, all right, let's do it your way" in addition to the normal [Charm]/[Intimidate]/[Reason] options.

(I'm not suggesting this be implemented for Opinion points, like "Was it dumb for that guy to leap from the cliff?" / "Should we have killed those drunk guards?" / "Would you kill Zombie Grandma?" Those are personal opinions, so the one-step agree/disagree is good.)

 

[evdk]

Item theft must have a limit anyway, "that potato is stolen!" is Skyrim level derpness...

This might work if there was some good scripting involved - somebody has just raided the town potato cellar dooming everyone to starvation and death and here comes the handsome stranger trying to offload a sack of taters: suspicion level +100

 

[Mangoose]

Item theft must have a limit anyway, "that potato is stolen!" is Skyrim level derpness...

Well, I think the scripting has to do with things that other NPCs can see each other wearing, so visible equipment.

 

[Xenich]

I like a system where it applies a combination of the results based on the skill check of each person.

So... in an "at odds" example, think of it as a linear vector, -10 to 0 to 10.

with one extreme opposed to the other and various skill influences as well as weighted static selectors, the reaction is then a variation of the "mood" of response based on what the result is according to the vector.

/shrug

Maybe stupid, maybe not... maybe there are problems with the logic, but it is something I just thought of right now.