Dungeon Keeper/Dwarf Fortress like games

[Black Cat]

I mean, like, Mal, you know, i have nothing against some softcore stuffies when it is totally in context and nya and totally not offensive, like with that noirish steampunk game you told me about and stuffies, but a basic sense of, say, decency and place should stop you from asking a girl to help you translate a game about raping girls until they, like, develop a serious case of that Stockholm stuffity thingie. Reading the post describing the game was already, like, awful. Nya.

And it is, like, totally not a secret i despise that Rance guy games. I was actually going to use the comparison of, like, it being like asking me to translate that bloody Rance thingie, but then you had to go and mention it before i had the chance. T_T

 

[Paperclip]

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2372/is_1_45/ai_n24383385/
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/brainstorm/200805/why-do-women-have-erotic-rape-fantasies

Black Cat, are you sure that you're not in denial? It's okay for you to come out of the closet and we as a family is very accomodating to our members. Take ScottishMartialArts for example, her bravery made us no longer afraid of the male member and made many realized that actually deep down inside, we know that it's something beautiful. You can be like her too if you want ^_-

In the end, our intention is just to have fun and under no circumstances any offense was meant to you ^^

Sorry for my English m(_ _)m

 

[Shuma]

"Stuffies" though, really?

I mean, come on.

 

[Black Cat]

@ Shuma

Thingies and, like, stuffies, totally nya chan, super dee duper kawaii nano desu de! Prrrr. *twitches ears* More nya, and ye thingity stuffity thingies. That's how i rolly rollity roll, savvy? Shoo shoo, nya. :3

@ Paperclip

Do i really need to point the, like, totally not small diference between liking it kind of forcefully and rough when with someone you love and trust and being abducted, taken to an underground fortress, and abused and stuffies and thingies without end by some scaly freak you don't even know until your mind kind of breaks down? ¬_¬U

Sure, one of my best friends even fantasies about having a go at the evil tentacle monster, but it would be with the evil, forceful tentacle monster of her choosing. That kind of makes it hard to really call it rape. The usual name is, like, kind of sexual roleplaying. Or just, like, totally weird fetish thingie.

 

[Heresiarch]

Sure, one of my best friends even fantasies about having a go at the evil tentacle monster, but it would be with the evil, forceful tentacle monster of her choosing. That kind of makes it hard to really call it rape.

It IS rape. It's your friend raping the poor tentacle monster.

On a serious note, if human people find female orcs, lizardwomen, troll ladies or even codexer's favourite furries ugly and disguting, then why would those races' male counterparts along with multiheaded dicks and stuffies find human girls giving them boner? Heck, even a hag or a succubus would shapeshift into her target's race before tempting him.

 

[Konjad]

I was browowsing my old games boxes today and what did I find? STARTOPIA, LOL. I probably bought it long time ago but for some reason never played it and forgot I even have it x_x Installing right now...

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

Well good, because Startopia is the best Dungeon Keeper-like.

 

[SuicideBunny]

All in all, this is a great game if you're looking to some evil yet not too sick and definetly unique DK experience!

you forgot to mention that it is extremely dumbed down compared to dk and has barely any similarities in terms of gameplay.

 

[Konjad]

I have completed training and first mission of Startopia and I may say that I do like this game already. I like DK's style more - being an evil bastard and sending your monsters to kill great heroes that are the last hope of humanity is more fun. Startopia seems though to be a very good game and may be a better in terms of gameplay but I have to see it yet.

BTW I cannot install Dungeon Keeper on Windows 7 - my setup.exe won't start :'( I tried different ones - from main folder, from Windows folder etc but nothing works.

 

[relootz]

Dungeon Keeper doesnt work on 64 bit systems

 

[Konjad]

 

[relootz]

I believe the problem lies in the installer being 16 bit.

You could either use Dosbox or use Winxp mode though.

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

TOO MANY BITS ON THE DANCE FLOOR

 

[poocolator]

Thingies and, like, stuffies, totally nya chan, super dee duper kawaii nano desu de! Prrrr. *twitches ears* More nya, and ye thingity stuffity thingies. That's how i rolly rollity roll, savvy? Shoo shoo, nya. :3

Oh, wow. I'm very glad that blackcat's finally gone to hell.

 

[Fez]

It's surprising how few games in the DK style have been released considering the generally good reputation it has among gamers.

Startopia was the last good one I can remember. Evil Genius was too flawed, bugged and frustrating. DK is ripe for some kind of indie effort or remake at the very least, I'd have thought. The Theme Park line managed to spawn many sequels and clones.

 

[PorkaMorka]

1993's D&D Stronghold is pretty much a highly simplified, above ground Dwarf Fortress, without the bugs.

Highly recommended... or at least it was last time I played it back in the 90s.

Of course, the appeal of DF to me is the simulation of a fantasy world aspect, rather than the building of spergy megaprojects aspect.

http://www.abandonia.com/games/642/down ... nghold.htm

 

[Fez]

Good call. I've not seen that in a while. Does it play well on modern PCs through DOSBox?

 

[ZbojLamignat]

Majesty? It's a cool game and its gameplay is pretty similar to DK.

Also Ghost Master, though it's mostly a nice idea fucked up by pretty lame execution.

Of course nothing beats the pure win that Dungeon Keeper is.

 

[Squirly]

Overlord has a lot of Dungeon Keeper elements - but it hasn't got any real base-building like DK or Evil Genius. Instead you're an actual bad-ass mofo who runs around with teams of evil creatures, terrorizing the local populace, burning down fields and slaying hobbits.

It has it's charm, but I can't help but feel that it would be more fun if you could actually construct and design your own dungeon.

 

[Fez]

I think Overlord has much of the charm and atmosphere of DK, but it caters to a very different niche when it comes to playing. More Pikmin than Dungeon Keeper when playing. It's one of the more enjoyable games out there though if these sorts of games interest you. It's a nice plus that it has some cosmetic tweaks for the player to play with as well as a few choices and bonuses here and there. There was an expansion too.

Overlord 2 adds a bit more to it, so I suppose that would be the one to suggest if you only wanted to play one.

I'd agree with Squirly in that building some kind of dungeon (even if it was for some sort of side-game or distraction) could be worth while. Perhaps letting the player deal with waves of random enemies or pre-set challenges? The customisation and development of the tower was a plus. Gives the player a sense of progress.

 

[Carlos' Bitch1]

I came in here to ask about Evil Genius, but it seems the concensus is that it is poor? What a pity. I also wonder why more games along these lines have not been made.

 

[Gragt]

Why not more games like these have been made? Well, it's only a theory so I certainly do not claim that this is the truth, but I think that the reason is that these games are fun, and that's why those in the industry who had the opportunity to make them prefered to do something else instead.

 

[CrimsonAngel]

I came in here to ask about Evil Genius, but it seems the concensus is that it is poor? What a pity. I also wonder why more games along these lines have not been made.

It is not a bad game over all, but it is lacking in some ways.

Over all it is still fun and worth a try, but the game has some issues.

 

[Carlos' Bitch1]

Why not more games like these have been made? Well, it's only a theory so I certainly do not claim that this is the truth, but I think that the reason is that these games are fun, and that's why those in the industry who had the opportunity to make them prefered to do something else instead.

You have confused me that much that I want to know more of your theory.

 

[Kalin]

I mean, like, Mal, you know, i have nothing against some softcore stuffies when it is totally in context and nya and totally not offensive, like with that noirish steampunk game you told me about and stuffies, but a basic sense of, say, decency and place should stop you from asking a girl to help you translate a game about raping girls until they, like, develop a serious case of that Stockholm stuffity thingie. Reading the post describing the game was already, like, awful. Nya.

And it is, like, totally not a secret i despise that Rance guy games. I was actually going to use the comparison of, like, it being like asking me to translate that bloody Rance thingie, but then you had to go and mention it before i had the chance. T_T

But you have Enzai: Falsely Accused listed in your signature! That game proves beyond every reasonable doubt that even something like rape can be employed as a highly effective story element, and that it can easily serve as a stepping stone from grim and unfortunate affairs to much brighter aspects of life: friendship, true love and good old family values.

 

[Black Cat]

@ Kalin

That's a good point, actually, and maybe I'm a bit of an hypocrite about it, but I don't really mind rape on romantic (or Bromantic, or whatever) stories when it's either an important element of the plot or the romance itself, kind of like Bodice Rippers and all that, but I kind of dislike it when it is just an excuse to put more sex scenes or show girls crying and suffering, or play to the domination fetish weak nerd guys have inside their sick little minds. So I don't really mind making an LP in which I translate, say, Under The Moon and Codexia picks all the choices, given the rape is just part of the romance in the Love/Hate routes, but doing the same for a game that's just porn with thinly veiled excuses for humiliating girls and making a bunch of sick bespeckled perverts feel strong and manly is totally nope.

And I should find myself a real image host and continue Enzai, yes.

 

[Gragt]

Why not more games like these have been made? Well, it's only a theory so I certainly do not claim that this is the truth, but I think that the reason is that these games are fun, and that's why those in the industry who had the opportunity to make them prefered to do something else instead.

You have confused me that much that I want to know more of your theory.

I remember I was drunk when I posted that :D

 

[Kalin]

@ Kalin

That's a good point, actually, and maybe I'm a bit of an hypocrite about it, but I don't really mind rape on romantic (or Bromantic, or whatever) stories when it's either an important element of the plot or the romance itself, kind of like Bodice Rippers and all that, but I kind of dislike it when it is just an excuse to put more sex scenes or show girls crying and suffering, or play to the domination fetish weak nerd guys have inside their sick little minds. So I don't really mind making an LP in which I translate, say, Under The Moon and Codexia picks all the choices, given the rape is just part of the romance in the Love/Hate routes, but doing the same for a game that's just porn with thinly veiled excuses for humiliating girls and making a bunch of sick bespeckled perverts feel strong and manly is totally nope.

Unfortunately, that sort of makes sense. It was worth a try though.

And I should find myself a real image host and continue Enzai, yes.

While it is hardly the best adult-themed visual novel out there, it is definitely unique enough to warrant some special attention.