Deus Ex Deus Ex: Revision

[v1rus]

Is it any good?

I played the game couple of times, but never made it too far, and, since holidays are the perfect time for some binge-playing, I've decided to fix that omission. But, should I use Revision on my first play through?

 

[Black]

No and no.

 

[HoboForEternity]

No.

This is the only mod that is worthy of the name deus ex

http://www.moddb.com/mods/gmdx

 

[v1rus]

Care to share anymore info tho?

 

[HoboForEternity]

Gmdx basically adds alot of things from small to big. For example, from something as simple as updating textures and model to adding a whole new perk system, upgrading physics and AI. It also stay true to the original's design.

Just simply take a look at the feature list in the mod page to see how humongous of work that is gmdx and the respect it has to the source material.

Revision, while it is prettier (at least compared to gmdx 8 iirc, i havent plaued with 9 yet) it's taken too much of a liberty over the original and was executed poorly that makes it like a mediocre reimagining of the original.

 

[Carrion]

Revision is garbage and should be avoided at all costs, especially on a first playthrough. It's not a mod, it's a scam and an attempt to sabotage one of the greatest games of all time. I don't think the modders even like Deus Ex considering that they seem to have no qualms about destroying some of the most memorable levels of the game and replacing them with their own trash design.

GMDX is indeed the best mod available for the game. I'd suggest going with vanilla for the first time around and then replaying the game with GMDX, which gives you nicer visuals, better AI and some mechanical improvements among other things.

 

[zool]

GMDX is indeed the best mod available for the game. I'd suggest going with vanilla for the first time around and then replaying the game with GMDX, which gives you nicer visuals, better AI and some mechanical improvements among other things.

So, someone who has never played the game and will only have time for one playthrough should definitely install GMDX rather than playing the vanilla game, right?

 

[Outlander]

Care to share anymore info tho?

http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/gmdx-deus-ex-advancement-mod-v9-released.85250/

 

[Carrion]

So, someone who has never played the game and will only have time for one playthrough should definitely install GMDX rather than playing the vanilla game, right?

Vanilla is always a good choice. In most cases I wouldn't recommend any mods for a first playthrough of any game, but the changes made by GMDX are generally pretty subtle, well justfied and in line with the original design of the game. It really depends on how much value you put on playing the game in its original state as opposed to it being modded from top to bottom. With GMDX you get a more challenging and better balanced game, but vanilla Deus Ex is still a pure joy to play even with its shortcomings.

DX has lots of replay value, though, and in the end you might find yourself trying to find time for that second playthrough anyway...

 

[Ash]

Don't underestimate the many, many bugfixes, general polishing and QoL improvements! Addressing Deus Ex's shortcomings whatever aspect of design they may reside in is the core of GMDX, often overlooked in favour of the new more noticeable mechanical and systemic expansions, as well as the much needed challenge and balancing. But yes, vanilla is still one of the PC GOATs, and likely to inspire replay. You can't really go wrong with playing either, as long as you end up with GMDX eventually

 

[Sigourn]

Are GMDX's graphic improvements completely optional, or are they one of those "well it's very popular so I had to incorporate it into the mod" kind of things? Ash

 

[Ash]

New Vision is optional. HDTP and GMDX's art direction refinements are not.
Both New Vision and HDTP are a little objectively flawed, yet GMDX irons out most of the flaws in the case of New Vision, and some in the case of HDTP. I pushed and pushed the community to help tackle these issues but to only little response, because it's near dead of late. Nonetheless, overall it's the best looking you can get Deus Ex right now (Revision isn't Deus Ex in principle, spirit, quality, nothing) and I wouldn't recommend disabling New Vision.
See example images: http://gmdxmod.com/features/enhanced-artistic-direction/

And popularity has little to do with my approach to design. HDTP and New Vision are good mods with a variably small handful of flaws, again a bunch of which GMDX addresses, enhances, and makes the visual experience overall more rounded, faithful, consistent etc than just using HDTP and NV alone.

 

[Parabalus]

GMDX is indeed the best mod available for the game. I'd suggest going with vanilla for the first time around and then replaying the game with GMDX, which gives you nicer visuals, better AI and some mechanical improvements among other things.

So, someone who has never played the game and will only have time for one playthrough should definitely install GMDX rather than playing the vanilla game, right?

In short, YES!

I recently played DX for the first time, with GMDX. It's almost impossible to distinguish mod additions from the original, unlike most other mods for various games. When I read about the additions (after playing "blind" ) I was flabbergasted that a ton of features weren't in the original but seamlessly added.

No bugs too, highly recommended.

 

[Ash]

"Consistency is king". One of my mottoes during development. This principle was only not really fully fulfilled in the case of HDTP, but it's easy to ignore.

 

[Baron Dupek]

What a coincidence - there was new version released few days ago.
What is a Revision? Mistake. Mess. Nonsense. Just look at the achievements list and mutators, most of them are uninspiring and stupid because people behind it have no clue what make game good and what to change to make it good for next playthrough (because you don't play mods on 1st playthrough silly).
Basically - average typical modders.
It's an equivalent of Complete mods series for Stalker - everyone recommend it despite being shit.
And don't remind me about Steam exclusivity bullshit (it appeared on GOG but still not for retail version) for a game older than Steam itself...

 

[Metro]

Revision isn't THAT bad but Deus Ex doesn't need any mods.

 

[Sjukob]

Just as everyone said go with GMDX. I've finished the game 2 times with this mod, it's fantastic.

 

[ShaggyMoose]

How does GMDX compare to New Vision (the graphical update side of Revision)?

 

[Baron Dupek]

Isn't NV a part of GMDX? Question fizzled before asked...
BTW. some other Deus Ex mod came out from the dead
http://www.moddb.com/mods/nihilum/news/announcement-deus-ex-nihilum-5th-anniversary-update

I did 2 years ago a Deus Ex mods (Redsun 2020, 2027 and Nihilum, also two others that I forgot...) marathon and most of these mods were solid projects with exceptions of two -
"Mutation" and The Nameless Mod were convoluted, sluggish piece of work with a lot of walking on vast maps with a bunch of weird shit in it.

 

[v1rus]

Does anyone have a checklist for C&C?

And well, since all I'm looking for is some retextures/upgraded graphics, any other mods worth mentioning? HDTP? Or, at least something that would allow me to run it at 1920x1080 resolution?

 

[Luckmann]

Revision is garbage.

Garbage.

 

[ShaggyMoose]

Isn't NV a part of GMDX? Question fizzled before asked...

Yeah, okay. This page seems to summarise the mods available.

"GMDX... Complete overhaul with the intention of staying true to the design philosophy of the original. Includes New Vision and HDTP (but only uses some of the HDTP textures, NONE of the character models)."