Bloodlines first time , which clan ?

[halflingbarbarian]

That's the nice thing about PnP: everything has the potential to be OP with creativity... just needs a ST douchey enough to throw in the hoops.

 

[Rod Rodderson]

What are those two Investigation dialogue options btw? I never ever leveled up Investigation due to it seeming a really gay way of wasting XP.

I know one involved seeing through Knox's attempt to manipulate you into offing the Kuei-jin for him, but I can't share any more details on it (having never done it on account of never caring enough). Don't know about any others, though.

On Celerity, the 20th anniversary edition edited it to cost a blood point for every extra action you want to take in that turn (up to your Celerity max per turn), like the Dark Ages implementation. It's not perfect, but there you have it. It's certainly less complicated than some house rulings I've seen, at least.

 

[Konjad]

Any race with a social skills as main strong point will be good. You'll enjoy the game more that way. Put skill points in two social skills like Intimidating/Persuasion/Seduction, it's useful. Also firearms kinda suck, excluding boss fights I recommend melee, especially katana when you find one.

 

[Excidium]

Social skills are the way to go in Bloodlines, even my Brujah had some.

What are those two Investigation dialogue options btw? I never ever leveled up Investigation due to it seeming a really gay way of wasting XP.

On Celerity, the 20th anniversary edition edited it to cost a blood point for every extra action you want to take in that turn (up to your Celerity max per turn), like the Dark Ages implementation. It's not perfect, but there you have it. It's certainly less complicated than some house rulings I've seen, at least.

Well the best solutions are the simple ones.

I can imagine the drama it caused. But at least it'll fall on White Wolf and not on the poor STs

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

Again, there are NO Clans with social skills as a strong point, since the starting points are pathetic in number and completely irrelevant past the first handful of quests.

Ultimately, Clan just affects your disciplines, or a more unique experience (Nosferatu and Malkavian having the best experiences with the game).

 

[thekdawg21]

First of all, you are super lucky not having played Bloodlines. It's my favorite aRPG of all time.

For a first playthrough, ie one where you will miss a lot of things and probably not quite get all of the nuances of the story and game mechanics, I would play a Ventrue and be loyal to the Camarilla.

There are multiple reasons, number one being that Ventrue kick ass, you have a set idea of what choices you will be making your character: You want power. Whether you follow someone else or lead yourself, your entire object is power over other Vampires politically. You are the top dog. Make choices that lead you to that spot.

You will have a great time playing as a lackey, you will have an easy time through the game with your mass domination discipline, your drawback of not draining rats is not a big deal.

The biggest reason I would choose a loyal Ventrue is that you'll get a great idea of the game and end it not quite the way that you might want to. It will set you up for a second playthrough with some things unanswered, a better knowledge of the game world and therefore an understanding of what's going on, and your second time will be almost as good as your first.

(Second being something like a loyal Tremere, anarch Brujah, fuckin awesome sneaky ninja motherfucker Nosferatu, and then the almighty amazing Malkavian playthrough.)

Good luck and have fun!

 

[SuicideBunny]

first playthrough is best with malk. it is the most memorable and it will make you like the game much more than any other clan. playing malk after you already played the game as something else will only lessen The Malkavian Experience™.

 

[Gord]

first playthrough is best with malk. it is the most memorable and it will make you like the game much more than any other clan. playing malk after you already played the game as something else will only lessen The Malkavian Experience™.

To the contrary I'd say that you can enjoy Malkavian a lot more when you can actually compare it to a "normal" clan, know a bit about some of the hints you get as a Malk and the differences to the other clans.

 

[Volrath]

Everytime I start Bloodlines I swear to myself that this time I'll play another clan. But everytime I end up picking the Tremere. Camarilla ftw!

 

[curry]

dont play at all (kc)

 

[FatCat]

Thank you for advice guys.I decided to go with Tremere.

 

[Storyfag]

Now you have to post your impressions of every quest

Or better yet, LP for the LP God! Screenshots for his Throne!

 

[Multidirectional]

Also firearms kinda suck

Lie. I'd go as far as to say that firearms are the only option if you want combat to have a resemblance of fun. 5 points in Unarmed eventually is good though, for feeding. I'd recommend choosing only Persuasion or Intimidation in same playthrough, always made more sense to me. Seduction isn't very useful if you are a male, but it does provide you with cool moments.
Yet the best thing to do in this game is play through it multiple times and explore all this shit for yourself (duh), it really is worth it.

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

Thank you for advice guys.I decided to go with Tremere.

Pussy. You need latex caressing your S&M ninja balls.

 

[SCO]

What are those two Investigation dialogue options btw? I never ever leveled up Investigation due to it seeming a really gay way of wasting XP.

Finding out knox is bullshitting you with the asian vampire and finding out that someone sent the location of the sarcophagus to the professor.

 

[Castanova]

Bros, I need help. I have the CD version (is there any other?) in CD image file format. After I mount CD1 using MagicISO, I choose the language in the installer, and it starts "preparing for install" or whatever... and then the whole thing disappears. The process is gone and everything. It's like the autorun program tries to kick off the actual installation but fails or something.

I'm on Vista x64.

Anyone else have this problem?

The other odd twist is that I've installed the game on this very same computer previously without any apparent problem. Oh, and yes, I've tried using the x64 installer from gamecopyworld and it doesn't make any difference.

 

[SCO]

There is a 64 bit installer somewhere. Search google.

After installing use the Wesp or clan quest patch, otherwise it will not start due to reported memory overflowing on 64 bit os (if you have more than 4 gb).


Edit: Suggest to run the installer from a console to see the errors it outputs (if any).

 

[Castanova]

Like I said, I have the 64bit installer and it doesn't make a difference.

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

What are those two Investigation dialogue options btw? I never ever leveled up Investigation due to it seeming a really gay way of wasting XP.

Finding out knox is bullshitting you with the asian vampire and finding out that someone sent the location of the sarcophagus to the professor.

Well hip-hip-fucking-hoorray. That makes it slightly more useful than Intimidate and Subterfuge.

 

[SCO]

Gotta catch them all

Blunt fangs... mutter... 1xp for every 3xp...

 

[Jaesun]

What are those two Investigation dialogue options btw? I never ever leveled up Investigation due to it seeming a really gay way of wasting XP.

Finding out knox is bullshitting you with the asian vampire and finding out that someone sent the location of the sarcophagus to the professor.

Well hip-hip-fucking-hoorray. That makes it slightly more useful than Intimidate and Subterfuge.

Interesting. I always wondered that too.

 

[dr. one]

first playthrough is best with malk. it is the most memorable and it will make you like the game much more than any other clan.

I agree, but I´d say this is actually a very good reason for not playing Malkavian first.
Playing Malkavian will very likely be the most memorable experience no matter on what playthrough it happens, but if done on a first one there´s nothing left to top it with, resulting in comparatively blander replays.

playing malk after you already played the game as something else will only lessen The Malkavian Experience™.

I wouldn´t say "only".
Metagame-y knowledge may lessen The Malkavian Experience™´s mindfuck value to some extent, but on the other hand there´s quite a lot of stuff which can´t be really appreciated without it. I´d say it´s a wash.

I decided to go with Tremere.

 

[SCO]

What are those two Investigation dialogue options btw? I never ever leveled up Investigation due to it seeming a really gay way of wasting XP.

Finding out knox is bullshitting you with the asian vampire and finding out that someone sent the location of the sarcophagus to the professor.

Well hip-hip-fucking-hoorray. That makes it slightly more useful than Intimidate and Subterfuge.

Interesting. I always wondered that too.

Thanks to the sciencemajick of grep and the linux console i've been able to confirm that

find . -name '*' -exec grep -H "Inspection" {} \;
./main characters/johansen.dlg:{	402	}{	Sounds like you're hiding something? Care to share?	}{	Sounds like you're hiding something? Care to share?	}{	411	}{	pc.CalcFeat("Inspection") > 4 or IsClan(pc,"Malkavian")	}{	}{	}{	}{	}{	}{	}{	}{	LYING!	}
./santa monica/knox.dlg:{	222	}{	Something about your story is a little off, Knox.	}{	Something about your story is a little off, Knox.	}{	411	}{	(pc.CalcFeat("Inspection") > 2 or IsClan(pc,"Malkavian")) and G.Bertram_Plant == 0	}{	}{	}{	}{	}{	}{	}{	}{	The truth does not match the words that fall from your mouth.	}
./santa monica/knox.dlg:{	232	}{	Something about your story is a little off, Knox.	}{	Something about your story is a little off, Knox.	}{	411	}{	(pc.CalcFeat("Inspection") > 2 or IsClan(pc,"Malkavian")) and G.Bertram_Plant == 0	}{	}{	}{	}{	}{	}{	}{	}{	The truth does not match the words that fall from your mouth.	}

Malkavians get those lines for free, making it even more useless.

 

[Eyeball]

Also, grab the minimod that puts makes the default Nosferatu character model put a fucking shirt on instead of looking like a bondage whore. Made my Nosferatu playthrough far more tolerable, I'll tell you that.

 

[SCO]

It's in the clan quest mod. As well as some other skin mods you should NOT install when given the option.

The only other one i liked wasn't there yet (the brujah female reskin).

 

[visions]

I sorta like the Nosferatu S&M outfit.