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Bioware outsource to India!!!!

DemonKing

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http://www.indiantelevision.com/anex/y2k5/headlines/anex270.htm

Just some basic art at this stage.

I for one say why not...anything that keeps Indians away from computer technical assistance call centres can't be all bad (I'm sure they're good techs but their accent is a little difficult to understand sometimes).

Too bad they're not looking to other parts of Asia or Extium could have landed himself a contract.
 

dipdipdip

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I have such a profound love for Indian food, so they can do no wrong in my eyes.
 

corvax

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Bioware is outsourcing artwork not jobs. Get a grip. You wont see "Lead Designer Gangesh Patel" in Bioware game credits anytime soon.
 

PrzeSzkoda

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So now Poland isn't your favourite source of cheap labor, huh? :(

I could've done the artwork! I can't draw, I don't have Photoshop, but damn, I'd have done it cheaper than those cheapasses think!
 

Twinfalls

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Okay, motherfuckers:

This is bad. Not, as with most bad things, in and of itself only, but as representative of a general direction. What this is about is games made FOR THE MONEY, and not as anything collaborative.

Just look at the corporate PR speak the dude uses:

"Bioware is interested in outsourcing some basic game art work to India, which includes props and small pieces of environments. Some Indian studios are already talking to us and we have given them tests. These tests shall belater evaluated by our experts and we shall give feedback to the studios"

Is this the type of shit any great artists would speak with? Can you imagine Looking Glass or Black Isle or whoever made the games you love coming up with that type of crap?

"Better evaluated, feedback, blah blah"

Make no mistake, this represents art being replaced by commerce - late capitalism seeing everything real and collaborative destroyed in the name of efficiency and profit.

Zombie decentralised factories making demographic-dictated prole-feed for us all.

Gah. Can't articulate properly, hope someone is on my wavelength here, otherwise, to hell with it all.

goodnight.
 

dipdipdip

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Well, I'm already boycotting Bioware, but for other reasons (their games and their egos make my skin crawl).

Feel free to join me.
 

Twinfalls

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hussar said:
Freakin' Commie!

Not at all. Communism was the most evil right-wing force we've seen recently, (Islamism is giving it a run for its money though), as it pretended to be 'for the people'.

I'm glad its gone. Communism's death is a step forward for democratic socialism.

Understand what words you use, Hussar - never let anyone else do your thinking for you....
 

corvax

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Understand a harmless jab when you see one, Twinfalls - never lose a sense of humor.
 

voodoo1man

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PR MONKEYS!!! said:
Bioware is interested in outsourcing some basic game art work to India, which includes props and small pieces of environments.

So now our virtual spoons and plates will be made by Indians! I am surprised Bethesda didn't think of this for Morrowind! They had so many spoons and forks, think of all the money they could have saved!!! Then they would pass the savings ONTO US!!!
 

Drakron

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Yes but what BioWare will pay then is a fraction of what they would have to pay to a canadian company.

Football balls were not made in India because of India reputation of football balls making skills, its because workforce costs are so low it more that covers the added costs of shipping.

What BioWare is doing in no diferent that Nike opening up factories in 3rd world countries to exploit the working conditions.

We might not be seeing "Lead Designer Gangesh Patel" but we might start to see "Gangesh Patel" on Q&A, programming and technical ... just not magerment.
 

Human Shield

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If Indians can do just as good of a job, it is the Candians that are overpaid, not the reverse. They want to be shielded from competition. The same reason we don't call lower prices, "under priced"; consumers can go for the lowest priced if the goods are the same.
 

Roqua

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wow, wow. I am not a bio fan at all but getting a contract that is cheaper for the same thing is called business. No different than switching phone companies for a better rate or deal. What a bunch of ethnocentricic whinny bitches. Indians work like fucking hebrews. The work at what they have. thats why their kids win all the American spelling bees. Because they worked harder and deserve it. India currently has a tech school that rivals MIT. India is the wave of the future. And guess what? They deserve it, because they bust their ass for it and don't expect it to be handed to them on a silver platter.

If the cracker ass bitches in the canook land wanted the work to be outsorces to them, they should have lowered prices or showed bio some sort of advantage contracting with them would have gave them. A free market is supposed to have efficient use of resources, a free global market would mean the people that can complete the contract at a lower price get the job, no matter what country they are located in (unless the cost of inv and shipping would add to the k's cost, etc). Its simple. All competetive advantage is competed away, and the long term cash flows come from a dynamic search for economic wealth. New ideas, increased efficiency, etc.

If you're going to be mad at bio be mad at them for making gay games aimed at retards, not for being a business and making good business choices. But then again their crap games sell like hot cakes so i guess I can't be mad at them since they were just making smart business choices making games for retards. Oh well, once less thing to hate. I will now refocus the hate I had for bio onto the retards who support the dumbed down, content-free, shiny graphic, fake-rpg market. Once they all die a violent bloody death, bio will be forced to make games that cater to my tastes, or in other words, good games. I love capitalism. And penis. And making out with my father.
 

Sarvis

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Roqua said:
wow, wow. I am not a bio fan at all but getting a contract that is cheaper for the same thing is called business. No different than switching phone companies for a better rate or deal. What a bunch of ethnocentricic whinny bitches. Indians work like fucking hebrews. The work at what they have. thats why their kids win all the American spelling bees. Because they worked harder and deserve it. India currently has a tech school that rivals MIT. India is the wave of the future. And guess what? They deserve it, because they bust their ass for it and don't expect it to be handed to them on a silver platter.
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And the instant the chinese are cheaper the Indians wil lose those jobs. Whether they provide better quality or not.
 

Volourn

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"And making out with my father."

Hello, my daughter. :D
 

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