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I cried when they shot Medgar Evers
Tears ran down my spine
I cried when they shot Mr. Kennedy
As though I'd lost a father of mine
But Malcolm X got what was coming
He got what he asked for this time
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a undomesticated snowman

I go to civil rights rallies
And I put down the old D.A.R.
I love Harry and Sidney and Sammy
I hope every colored boy becomes a star
But don't talk about revolution
That's going a little bit too far
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a undomesticated snowman

I cheered when Humphrey was chosen
My faith in the system restored
I'm glad the commies were thrown out
of the A.F.L. C.I.O. board
I love Puerto Ricans and Negros
as long as they don't move next door
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a undomesticated snowman

The people of old Mississippi
Should all hang their heads in shame
I can't understand how their minds work
What's the matter don't they watch Les Crain?
But if you ask me to bus my children
I hope the cops take down your name
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a undomesticated snowman

I read New republic and Nation
I've learned to take every view
You know, I've memorized Lerner and Golden
I feel like I'm almost a Jew
But when it comes to times like Korea
There's no one more red, white and blue
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a undomesticated snowman

I vote for the democratic party
They want the U.N. to be strong
I go to all the Pete Seeger concerts
He sure gets me singing those songs
I'll send all the money you ask for
But don't ask me to come on along
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a undomesticated snowman

Once I was young and impulsive
I wore every conceivable pin
Even went to the socialist meetings
Learned all the old union hymns
But I've grown older and wiser
And that's why I'm turning you in
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a undomesticated snowman

He was reviled at the ITS forums when I posted there as well. undomesticated snowmans gonna undomesticated snowman I guess.

I only participated timidly in that thread. Isn't it mostly Gareth who was persuaded that I was a duplicate account of yours and grew furious even though many people kept telling him he was wrong and he didn't want to believe it?

As for the rest, it doesn't make me feel anything special. I knew what I was exposing myself to by having a pro-Christian, pro-marriage and pro-copyright stance on a forum centered entirely around dealing with no rules and no authority, and contesting it. But I'm not going to be shy about what I believe in on a forum also designed around freedom of expression.

Nah, there were a few others. VD was the one that nuked the thread anyway.

I think they banned Lesifoere for what she posted in that thread as well(she attacked Gareth for accusing me of some preposterous stuff).

What were the ol' Fouchebag's accusations? It seems odd that she'd come to the defense of well... someone like you.

I said that many people in the thread admired Hawkings because of his comic book character appearance(Xavier like genius in futuristic wheelchair and all), without acknowledging that no theory of his has ever been proven empirically. Basically I implied that his persona and appearance was a great part of his media appeal(which is true). I also accused him of worshipping Hawkings as some kind of demigod and believing everything he writes to be gospel without questioning(which was pretty much true in his case).

He went into a crazy tangent, accused me of being "prejudiced against the disabled", "making a mockery of his disease" and being "worthless scum". He had no reason for that, off course, and many people in the thread pointed out that he was off his rockers. I don't think she necessarily agreed with the points I made in that thread(I don't think she is religious at all) but she attacked him for being a douchebag, or "Fouchebag" as you put it.

He also posted a picture of a blue-eyed black scientist in the thread, which I called a "sycophantic affirmative action half-breed". I apologized for the racial connotation later, but he foamed at the mouth for the remainder of the thread regardless.

You should check this thread, the subject of Hawkings worship just came up in the last pages:

http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/inde...their-sex-crazed-agenda-in-class.72132/page-6

hella lot of bluff checks being made itt

Looks like Fret has hastened his ban.

Why is that? No spamming, no trolling, no smily runs and no image macros. I haven't even offended anyone besides Gnid, which is unusual.

Is your comment the equivalent of "He is not behaving as a politically incorrect undomesticated snowman nihilist and therefore he has to go"? I'm getting that a lot.

I mean it's pretty incredible that it's OK to have threads about topics as disgusting as incest and genocide, but defending the Catholic church and putting famous grandstanding scientists into question by having a collected debate are the most unspeakable and outrageous things one can do. How about if you're not interested in the discussion, don't post in it? What kind of hypocritical, pissy stuff in that? I've never seen anything as ridiculous as this.

Pedophilia is one of the few things that go against the rules of this site.

Edit:
Besides, the Bible advocates both incest and genocide.

More meaningless old testament hate, ITT. undomesticated snowmans should try reading the new testament sometime. It is the basis of Christianity.

Got to call a spade a spade. Be honest here: a poster like HHR would not be on so many ignore lists if conservative religious viewpoints didn't cause massive butthurt on the undomesticated snowman majority. What else would be the reason? He doesn't troll, he is polite and his posts have context.

I have a feeling I am touching the same nerve with some of my posts.

Oh the poor conservatives! Oppressed by the horde of evil undomesticated snowmans! After all it's always the undomesticated snowmans that make threads loaded with political agenda, it's always the undomesticated snowmans that swarm every thread talking about good old fashioned values! Cry me a fucking river.

Pretty much.

You can count the local conservatives in one hand. There is Mastermind, HHR, Higher Game, Lyric Suite and then me(not sure who I am forgetting). All of them earning high ignore counts I think. There are a couple of others that could be called "right-wingers"(Nomask and and a few others), but they are not religious or really that conservative.

Loaded with political agenda? Tell that to people like raw and Trash who often start multiple such threads a day.

These are not social issues that we go out of our way to seek out, these are issues that come knocking at our doors. What do you care if we want to speak about it? Not to mention that I am always careful not to flood with topics, and not to spread the subject matters to many unrelated threads.

Also, I'm certainly not complaining about being "oppressed", I just point out some of the hypocrisy I see.

Fret fails at sarcasm.

And then you come and make threads about them.

On a forum dedicated to CRPGs.

Where two thirds of your posts have nothing to do with any kind of gaming.

... and then you wonder why the only people who like you here are the ones who do the same thing?

You can't hold that stupid posturing of yours for more that three posts, weren't you advocating Catholicism?
I am pretty sure that you don't even know what is the doctrinal position of the Church about the whole Old New thingie considering that your comment was the typical Kwanzanian Protestant reply.
Let me lecture you, the New Covenant supersedes the old but doesn't condemn it or cancel it, so, yeah, the Bible as such advocated incest and genocide, arguments that HHR! finds disgusting, good to know that he despises the Word of God.

Besides, he mostly makes homosexual topics an then proceeds thumping on Leviticus. Priorities, man.

I did post more about things like these instead of gaming than I would have liked to be, primarily because I like reading about gaming a lot and it's the main reason I come here every day, but now I have far less time to play and talk about it.

However, while how prominent you are plays a part, the primary factor is definitely how agreeable and complacent a person chooses to be in regard to everyone else's attitudes, and some things are definitely more verboten than others. Higher Game and Lyric Suite aren't individuals who are rocking the boat, because they are nihilistic, constantly advocating cruelty as if it was nothing and posting in a shameless, nonchalant demeanor, and in that sense subscribing to Codexian group-think by their delivery per opposition to their message. I would say that's also why Wyrmlord comes under heat (because he doesn't compromise, per opposition to ubiquitous posting).

But in a sense, that's why I like this place. None of the smarmyness, desire to please at all costs and candy coating that I dislike.

That being said, Skyway is just being ignored because his views are too advanced for the majority of the codex to comprehend.

well, i think we can agree that jesus teachings are all forgotten by now, especially by his own followers. But is that really that surprising?