Fallout Autumn Leaves mod for Fallout: New Vegas

[Feyd Rautha]

Could you post this on the main page? Everyone should be alerted about Bethesdas plagiarism

 

[Crooked Bee]

Lol. Gonna tweet about this.

 

[Spectacle]

If the quests are really that similar, the modder should sue Bethesda for plagiarism.

 

[Mozg]

I forget what the guy that made the Codex comics in gary's mod is named now because I think that dude is the most likely Codexer to have actually played both.

 

[Infinitron]

I forget what the guy that made the Codex comics in gary's mod is named now because I think that dude is the most likely Codexer to have actually played both.

Whu - Admiral Jimbob?

 

[Lhynn]

If the quests are really that similar, the modder should sue Bethesda for plagiarism.

Can he?

 

[Mozg]

Yeah that's the dude I think, he posted in the AL thread

 

[Somberlain]

"If we can't make money from the community's work with paid mods we'll do it some other way."

 

[Wayward Son]

If the quests are really that similar, the modder should sue Bethesda for plagiarism.

Can he?

Well, I mean, people have sued for far stupider things and the guy did do unpaid work that was digitally released, the concept itself was then used in a product that was distributed for money, there's probably a case in there somewhere. Don't take my word for it though, I'm no lawyer.

 

[Infinitron]

Archived in case of Bethesda tricks: http://archive.is/FOTj8

 

[pippin]

If the quests are really that similar, the modder should sue Bethesda for plagiarism.

Can he?

Don't believe he can. It's not a commercial property. And even then, the tools used for creating the mod are owned by Bethesda, providing the people behind the mod used the GECK or something to that effect.

 

[Mustawd]

If he used Bethesda's engine he's probably F'ed when it comes to ways to sue. I would imagine that in the LUA there is some fine print that says "anything you create with our tools and using our game are subject to our ownership if need be".

 

[Infinitron]

Of course there are no grounds for suing. There are however grounds for publicly shaming Bethesda so that they at least offer some belated credit.

 

[Mustawd]

From the EULA:

If you create levels, add-on packs, sequels or other items to the Software using the SOFTWARE's level editor, if any, including the construction of new levels (collectively, the "Modifications"), you are subject to the following restrictions: (i) the SOFTWARE's level editor and associated development tools and documentation (collectively "SDK") are considered separate from the SOFTWARE in the sense that they are not guaranteed or supported by the OWNER. However, the OWNER retains all copyrights and intellectual rights to the SDK, as stated in this license. (ii) your Modifications must require a full, registered copy of the Software to run; (iii) you may not distribute a Modification that contains an executable file which has been changed or modified in any way; (iv) your Modifications must not contain any libelous, defamatory or other illegal material, material that is scandalous or invades the rights of privacy or publicity of any third party, or contain any trademarks, copyright-protected work or other property of third parties; (v) your Modifications must be distributed solely for free. Neither you nor any other person or party may sell them to anyone, commercially exploit them in any way, or charge anyone for using them without a license from the OWNER. OWNER encourages non-commercial distribution of quality Modifications; and (vi) your Modifications shall not be technically or otherwise supported in any manner by the OWNER. The prohibitions and restrictions in this Section apply to anyone in possession of the Software or any of your Modifications. As to the extent permitted by the applicable laws, YOU ARE NOT PERMITTED TO REVERSE ENGINEER, DECOMPILE OR DISASSEMBLE THE SOFTWARE IN ANY WAY. Any copying of the SOFTWARE or ACCOMPANYING MATERIALS not specifically allowed in this Agreement is a violation of this Agreement.

I would read this as: Bethesda basically owns anything you create and distribute as a mod, if they so choose. In addition, you probably couldn't claim the mod, in terms of storyline and characters, is "your IP" because you've made it in the FALLOUT universe.

 

[Doktor Best]

Looking forward to see the Toddmaster running around with a paperbag on his head

 

[Tacgnol]

This is just Bethesda copying the new console practice of stealing mods.

 

[Spectacle]

Modders own copyright to the plot of any mods they create, even if they use bethesda tools, so i believe this is a valid case of plagiarism. It's going to take a court case to settle things though, which is why I'd like the modder to sue.

 

[Lhynn]

Modders own copyright to the plot of any mods they create, even if they use bethesda tools, so i believe this is a valid case of plagiarism. It's going to take a court case to settle things though, which is why I'd like the modder to sue.

Rather the modder get hired by bethsoft, then we wont have 1, but 2 guys that know what the hell they are doing there.

 

[pippin]

On the other hand, an Oblivion modder got hired by Obsidian once (or so I heard).
I think it could be the necessary pinch of pepper for a great bowl of drama soup when it comes to modding Bethesda games, though.

 

[Coma White]

Could you post this on the main page? Everyone should be alerted about Bethesdas plagiarism

I don't think this is really plagiarism. It's just scummy.

 

[Mustawd]

Modders own copyright to the plot of any mods they create, even if they use bethesda tools, so i believe this is a valid case of plagiarism.

Not if the Mod is set in an owned universe, which is of course Fallout.

 

[racofer]

 

[abnaxus]

Slow news day.

 

[RK47]

WHY CANT THEY JUST FUCKING COPY LOVERSLAB.
WHAT THE FUCK
ARE YOU STUPID
DO YOU WANT TO INVESTIGATE CRIME BY ROBOTS?
HUEHUEHEUHEUEHEUHE
FUCKING STUPID

 

[Dustin542]

On the other hand, an Oblivion modder got hired by Obsidian once (or so I heard).

Jorge Salgado aka Oscuro

 

[Konjad]

If he used Bethesda's engine he's probably F'ed when it comes to ways to sue. I would imagine that in the LUA there is some fine print that says "anything you create with our tools and using our game are subject to our ownership if need be".

Of course it does. Everything you make in Construction Set is a property of Bethesda. It's the same everywhere - everything you make in mod toolset (forgot the name) for NWN is Bioware's and so on. Otherwise you could make money selling your mods.