Grimoire Thread

[DavidBVal]

I think you are correct, once Cleve releases the manual saying how things are supposed to work, he will get a few thousand bug reports because things don't work like that.

As such I don't expect a manual for at least 1 month from now, at best.

I think that might be an exageration, but it's very likely that part of the delay is caused by Cleve checking the code to remember how certain things work, only to find out bugs or commented out parts, etc.

He should not worry too much. Even 25 years later, many things in Wizardry 6 are clearly bugged, and those games didn't have detailed manuals with formulas either. All we want is a guide of what attributes and skills are good for, but he doesn't need to detail things too much and get himself into trouble.

Now, maybe he'll go full Cleve and write a humorous manual that will be super-fun to read, e.g., descriptions of STR with his gym stories as example.

 

[Streaming Instability]

I've started the game, played around with the character creation for about an hour but got so frustrated with not having the foggiest what shit means and does. Yes it's spergy but I just can't start the game stumbling blindly forward without studying the manual first.

Still remember when I bought Wiz 7 I read the shit out of the manual first. With a dictionary in my hand since I couldn't speak English back then lol.

Cut down on your vaccinations and just play the damn game.

 

[Toxic Masculinity]

Cookies are harmless to vampires. What a relief.

 

[PrettyDeadman]

Cleve wouldn't even answer basic questions about the character system. So at the moment it is a mystery.

Gotta keep game mechanics secret from the pirates.

 

[cvv]

I've started the game, played around with the character creation for about an hour but got so frustrated with not having the foggiest what shit means and does. Yes it's spergy but I just can't start the game stumbling blindly forward without studying the manual first.

Still remember when I bought Wiz 7 I read the shit out of the manual first. With a dictionary in my hand since I couldn't speak English back then lol.

Cut down on your vaccinations and just play the damn game.

And who the fuck are you?

 

[Toxic Masculinity]

Maybe we could use DECLINE to check this information? It is based in the superdemo or in the final game? We should ask Pedo Zepp about this.

 

[cvv]

He should not worry too much. Even 25 years later, many things in Wizardry 6 are clearly bugged, and those games didn't have detailed manuals with formulas either.

Wizardry 6 had a pretty detailed manual, at least 100 pages iirc. Wiz 7 twice as much.

 

[Zorba the Hutt]

Now, maybe he'll go full Cleve and write a humorous manual that will be super-fun to read, e.g., descriptions of STR with his gym stories as example.

Best deal

When that massive flood of protein digested in my stomach I could feel it coursing through my body leaving me with an extraordinary sensation of well-being that could only result from those eggs being very, very good for me, especially first thing in the morning when their impact on my metabolism seemed to be the highest. Only a person who was just not on speaking terms with their own body could fail to note the correlation. That's what televitz does to you - it becomes an authority that screams down your own ancient wisdom that is the product of a million years of genetic refinement. Televitz is such a powerful evil it can shut down that inner light and replace it with an authoritative sounding voice that tells you that sunlight, fresh air and eggs are bad for you. This is the reason that people pay billions of dollars to buy television stations. It is the prince and the power of the air. Ephesians 2:2.

People in Australia think I'm a strong guy when they find out about me. I was just barely strong enough to give Bob a squat spot in the gym. I never saw anybody like that guy again. The last time I saw Bob he was doing super-slow dips with 300 pounds hanging around his waist. Traumatic stuff to see with the naked eye. Disturbing. The guy was like a human powered demolition crane. I used to tell Bob he could sell his services as a gigantic earth moving device on construction sites in return for all the sausages he could eat.

 

[felipepepe]

Regarding humour:

 

[DashiDMV]

MUH IMMERSION

 

[PhantasmaNL]

I remember The Age of Conan which had a ton of attributes and skills, of which only a handful actually did something.

After a day or so players complained that increasing running speed didnt actually make them run faster. One of the easiest and fastest things to check, you assume the creators would not skip it.

 

[Streaming Instability]

I've started the game, played around with the character creation for about an hour but got so frustrated with not having the foggiest what shit means and does. Yes it's spergy but I just can't start the game stumbling blindly forward without studying the manual first.

Still remember when I bought Wiz 7 I read the shit out of the manual first. With a dictionary in my hand since I couldn't speak English back then lol.

Cut down on your vaccinations and just play the damn game.

And who the fuck are you?

Sorry mate, just having a laugh:

 

[DarKPenguiN]

I remember The Age of Conan which had a ton of attributes and skills, of which only a handful actually did something.

After a day or so players complained that increasing running speed didnt actually make them run faster. One of the easiest and fastest things to check, you assume the creators would not skip it.

Really? That pretty funny and I didnt know that.

 

[Brozef]

udm
citation

So you don't own haven't bought Grimoire, but you wishlisted Hellblade?

 

[Viata]

He should not worry too much. Even 25 years later, many things in Wizardry 6 are clearly bugged, and those games didn't have detailed manuals with formulas either.

Wizardry 6 had a pretty detailed manual, at least 100 pages iirc. Wiz 7 twice as much.

Yeah, Wiz 7 manual is my go to "how to make manual".

 

[Toxic Masculinity]

It is true that Brenda Romero is the author of the Wizardry 7 manual?

 

[DavidBVal]

He should not worry too much. Even 25 years later, many things in Wizardry 6 are clearly bugged, and those games didn't have detailed manuals with formulas either.

Wizardry 6 had a pretty detailed manual, at least 100 pages iirc.

Long and a good indeed, but it really doesn't explain critical mechanics. Obscure things like the high vitality (16+) granting mana regeneration, for instance. But also simpler things, like how exactly does STR affect damage. This is how Wiz 6 explains attributes, and for now would be enough for Grimoire:

All we need for now is to know what attributes are good for each class, there seem to be some counter-intuitive things like DEV being using for all classes mana pool, that we must learn once and for all from Cleve.

 

[Toxic Masculinity]

I'm pretty sure that obscuring attributes formulas and what do they influence was intentional in those games

 

[JarlFrank]

I just entered the Imperial Palace and the tileset there is beautiful!

Cleveland Mark Blakemore I'd be willing to pay 10 bucks for a DLC/expansion that adds more tilesets to add unique visual charm to some areas of the game, like an Egyptian/desert style tileset for the pyramid for example. The palace looks so damn pretty, up to this point I thought I had already seen all available tile graphics.

Call me a graphics whore but some visual variation would be really nice.

 

[Great Deceiver]

Let's not forget that the Wizardry 6-7 manuals were written by Brenda Garno, i.e. Brenda Brathwaite, i.e. Brenda Romero.

Cleveland Mark Blakemore, wanna give her a ring?

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

 

[Irenaeus]

Cleveland Mark Blakemore I'd be willing to pay 10 bucks for a DLC/expansion that adds more tilesets to add unique visual charm to some areas of the game, like an Egyptian/desert style tileset for the pyramid for example.

Same.

 

[Efe]

He should not worry too much. Even 25 years later, many things in Wizardry 6 are clearly bugged, and those games didn't have detailed manuals with formulas either.

Wizardry 6 had a pretty detailed manual, at least 100 pages iirc. Wiz 7 twice as much.

Yeah, Wiz 7 manual is my go to "how to make manual".

i wishlist things i keep track of. hellblade did disappoint and im unlikely to buy that.
grrimoire on the otherhand, why would i follow it on steam when i get better information here?

 

[Baff]

Let's not forget that the Wizardry 6-7 manuals were written by Brenda Garno, i.e. Brenda Brathwaite, i.e. Brenda Romero.

Cleveland Mark Blakemore, wanna give her a ring?

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Cleve has said that she did a good job with manual writing. Programming, design, etc is a different issue.

 

[DavidBVal]

Let's not forget that the Wizardry 6-7 manuals were written by Brenda Garno, i.e. Brenda Brathwaite, i.e. Brenda Romero.

Cleveland Mark Blakemore, wanna give her a ring?

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Cleve has said that she did a good job with manual writing. Programming, design, etc is a different issue.

Then maybe it's time to give her a call...

 

[Great Deceiver]

I like the Wiz manuals, they were indeed pretty well-written. Just think it's funny how these things come around.