Elhoim
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Here it is folks! The world map of The Age of Decadence!
(The screen is a photoshop edit without the X close and the scroll bar. Itīs not ingame)
(Oh, and BTW, I didnīt make, but a skilled concept artist did it. VD may introduce her someday. Or not.)
Well, enough aclarations. Here it is! The map itself!
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Amasius
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| Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 5:51 am Post subject: |
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The center looks like a lunar landscape - postapocalyptic enough for me. Great work again. 
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| Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 5:58 am Post subject: |
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The craters and the mountains appear to have conflicting perspectives.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 6:00 am Post subject: |
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that's just your womanly hysteria interfering with eyesight
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Amasius
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| Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 6:11 am Post subject: |
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| Twinfalls wrote: | | The craters and the mountains appear to have conflicting perspectives. |
How so? I can't see it. But I wonder why the water is gray and the X is missing. (Big issue!  )
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| Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 6:14 am Post subject: |
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the water is gray because you avatar is secretly gay
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| Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 6:34 am Post subject: |
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| Amasius wrote: | | Twinfalls wrote: | | The craters and the mountains appear to have conflicting perspectives. |
How so? I can't see it. |
The mountains are clearly being viewed from an angle, while the craters have a pretty-much overhead view (that's why they appear as circles, not ellipses).
It doesn't bother me particularly, but it's definitely not "right". It does seem a little odd to have this kind of conflict in a map with a pretty realistic feel to it. The level of detail on the craters makes me think accurate-representation-of-the-game-world, then the mountains make me think artist's-impression.
It'd make most sense to me if the area around the craters were populated/travelled/important, whereas the area around the mountains weren't. If no-one travels in/through/past the mountains, there's no need for them to be accurately represented. If people do frequently travel over the cratered areas, it's important that they are. The creator of such a map in the reality of the game world could have precisely the same motives as its creator in the real world: a functional, overhead view for the areas where people travel, and artistic free reign where they don't.
As I say, it doesn't bother me (and I think it looks good in general), but Twinfalls won't be alone in thinking/feeling that it's a little odd. |
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EliotW
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| Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:02 am Post subject: |
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Unhappy smiley face?
The map looks quite good. |
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Amasius
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| Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:16 am Post subject: |
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Hm, maybe Twinfalls and galsiah are right. But the secret is spoiled - the apocalypse was caused by the Yeti! 
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| Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:23 am Post subject: |
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There's something goatse about it...
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| Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:58 am Post subject: |
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The mountains look a little odd, partly because of the different perspective, partly because of the different color scheme. The sole mountain in the southwest in particular seems to be floating. Replacing it with a more top down "satellite photo" look would be better. The crater landscape looks very good, and the big rift is very intriguing.
In general I would have preferred a more hand-drawn looking map, to be honest. I love drawn maps.
Questions: Will it show locations in game? Can we annotate it ourselves?
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| Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:02 am Post subject: |
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nitpick #2:
how the hell can a river start to form in a forest lowland? To the best of my knowledge, rivers starts as rainwater falling on the mountains. They often start out small from many branches and then gathers up to a wider river until they reach the sea, and maybe form a delta.
make the river start from the mountains up north, that would make much more sense.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:12 am Post subject: |
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| callehe wrote: | nitpick #2:
how the hell can a river start to form in a forest lowland? To the best of my knowledge, rivers starts as rainwater falling on the mountains. They often start out small from many branches and then gathers up to a wider river until they reach the sea, and maybe form a delta.
make the river start from the mountains up north, that would make much more sense. |
Well, there is that mountain in the forest.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:56 am Post subject: |
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This game doesn't even have one city? Lame.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 9:05 am Post subject: |
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Is this map going to function like the one in Temple of Elemental Evil, in that you have a list of locations you can travel to at the side and if you click a name on the list, or a place on the map, it will show you traveling to your new destination from your old one? I really like the map, but then again I pretty much like everything that I've seen coming from Age of Decadence. If you do decide to do some form of beta testing, I'd be happy to help out.
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Globbi
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| Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 9:22 am Post subject: |
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| I'd like locations to look like drawn uglily on the map. If someone tells you he marked a place on your map make it look like it, for instance a forest would be 2 trees and a hand-written name. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 9:44 am Post subject: |
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Hehe, the center of the map looks a bit like Mars from a satellite view. It looks good overall.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:08 am Post subject: |
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| jeansberg wrote: | | callehe wrote: | nitpick #2:
how the hell can a river start to form in a forest lowland? To the best of my knowledge, rivers starts as rainwater falling on the mountains. They often start out small from many branches and then gathers up to a wider river until they reach the sea, and maybe form a delta.
make the river start from the mountains up north, that would make much more sense. |
Well, there is that mountain in the forest. |
...that the river doesn't originate from. Extending the river to the mountain would solve it i guess.
btw, this isn't a map you will find hanging on the walls in the game I hope? All the maps made by cartographers ought to be pre-apocalyptic.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:19 am Post subject: |
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| Is not that the mountain where you must equip the ring? |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:23 am Post subject: |
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| The map does look a bit odd. However, it has a very stylized feel to it. Like if you were watching an old map where the cartographer tried to show you where was what but didn't feel like giving it the realism of a satelite picture. For all I care, it can stay like it is. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:38 am Post subject: |
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| Looks great but the perspective must be fixed. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:44 am Post subject: |
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| fastpunk wrote: | | Hehe, the center of the map looks a bit like Mars from a satellite view. It looks good overall. |
LOL NUB ELOI SAID ITS SHOPPED!!!1
Also IMO this looks shopped. I can tell from some of the pixels and from seeing quite a few shops in my time.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:47 am Post subject: |
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| callehe wrote: | | jeansberg wrote: | | callehe wrote: | nitpick #2:
how the hell can a river start to form in a forest lowland? To the best of my knowledge, rivers starts as rainwater falling on the mountains. They often start out small from many branches and then gathers up to a wider river until they reach the sea, and maybe form a delta.
make the river start from the mountains up north, that would make much more sense. |
Well, there is that mountain in the forest. |
...that the river doesn't originate from. Extending the river to the mountain would solve it i guess.
btw, this isn't a map you will find hanging on the walls in the game I hope? All the maps made by cartographers ought to be pre-apocalyptic. |
I guess he meant the river to be obscured by the trees. Or he doesn't know much about geography. 
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| Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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| The problem is that it looks like a map/satellite image hybrid. You should first decide if the purpose of this is to be a helpful map or just a pic of the lands. If it's supposed to be a map, then it should provide some info about locations that can be found in game (if the river continues to the forest then it should be presented in a map, no matter whether it's seen or not from above). |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Jora wrote: | | Looks great but the perspective must be fixed. |
Or what? You'll refuse to play the game?
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