Vault Dweller Ubersturmfuhrer

Joined: 07 Jan 2003 Posts: 15259 Location: Vault 13
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 12:20 pm Post subject: Mass Effect drama - teh graphikz r dumbed down! |
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http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=161421
BioWare has responded to the public outcry over yesterday's rather rough-looking Mass Effect screenshots, admitting that the shots were a "mistake" and "didn't look very good".
"The other day, we released 3 new screenshots," posts BioWare community coordinator Chris Priestly. "A few people posted comments about how the art in Mass Effect was 'dumbed down' and wasn't looking very good. And I took exception to the comment and posted my feelings. The problem was, the screenshots they were criticising DIDN'T look very good."
The post continues: "The whole truth of the matter is that the person at BioWare who took those screenshots made a mistake. People in our industry don't admit this much, but we do make mistakes.
"The person took those screens at the last minute as they were needed for the article. He did take them in game from areas of the game that worked and then he sent them off... He didn't clear them with Casey and the ME team (and the Photoshop department, apparently - VD) though."
To prove to internet doubters that the RPG stunner in fact hasn't been "dumbed down" Priestly went and captured a new screenshot which he says "much more accurately shows the true quality of the art that you'll see in Mass Effect".
You can see the screenshot for yourself on the right of this page - and admittedly it's a vast improvement over the shoddily compressed pics from yesterday.
"I just wanted everyone to see this, especially those who had some concerns about the final quality, so they would have a better idea of what the game will really be like.
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Deja fucking vu. Remember when Bethesda claimed the same bullshit when the Russian preview with "illegal" screens was posted? _________________ Spazmo: Odds are, something you like very much sucks. Why? Because this is RPG Codex. |
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HotSnack


Joined: 07 Mar 2006 Posts: 305
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | A few people posted comments about how the art in Mass Effect was 'dumbed down' and wasn't looking very good. |
So the overall complaint was that the graphics looked "dumbed down"? Is it safe to assume that this also mean the overall target gamer are ones who don't even know what "dumbed down" means? _________________ Daigoji_Gai: I thought Fable was a more glaring example of how daunting a task it is to deliver what many of you are calling for that 2D sense of freedom and depth with consequences in a modern 3D game with full voice acting, high end graphics, and so many features. |
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Spectacle


Joined: 25 May 2006 Posts: 857
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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This is quite possibly the dumbest thing I have heard all year.
Seriously. _________________
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JarlFrank Deutscher Kaiser

Joined: 04 Jan 2007 Posts: 10036 Location: The Fourth Reich
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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You cannot dumb down graphics. You can only dumb down the intelligent parts of the game. _________________
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MountainWest


Joined: 29 May 2006 Posts: 630 Location: Over there
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Spectacle wrote: | This is quite possibly the dumbest thing I have heard all year.
Seriously. |
You're obviously not dumbed down enough. Please report to the nearest console for a cerebral cortex suppressant.
| Quote: | | To prove to internet doubters that the RPG stunner in fact hasn't been "dumbed down" Priestly went and captured a new screenshot which he says "much more accurately shows the true quality of the art that you'll see in Mass Effect". |
R00FLES!
Though I can't help to wonder whether there really are others who thinks the graphics looks 'dumbed down', or if it's in fact Chris Pristley himself using the phrase, thus hinting that his role as Community Coordinator at the BioBoards have made him 'dumbed down'.
And now the big question for you native speakers out there: Is it "has made him"? or "have made him"? The former gives 939000 google-hits, the latter 974000 hits. "It have made him" gets 21200 hits while "It has made him" gets 31600 hits. I guess there's some parameter I'm not counting. _________________ Fiction is the truth inside the lie. |
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Surgey


Joined: 14 Aug 2006 Posts: 618 Location: Unicorn Power!
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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| I noticed the graphics looked a little rough compared to other shots, but I really just didn't give a shit, though. I'm not going to play this game based solely on how shiny teh graphix are. |
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Vault Dweller Ubersturmfuhrer

Joined: 07 Jan 2003 Posts: 15259 Location: Vault 13
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not a native speaker, but:
It has ...
They have ... _________________ Spazmo: Odds are, something you like very much sucks. Why? Because this is RPG Codex. |
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hoochimama


Joined: 11 Jul 2004 Posts: 489
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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| HotSnack wrote: | | Is it safe to assume that this also mean the overall target gamer are ones who don't even know what "dumbed down" means? |
Image Quality is the new IQ. |
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MountainWest


Joined: 29 May 2006 Posts: 630 Location: Over there
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Vault Dweller wrote: | I'm not a native speaker, but:
It has ...
They have ... |
A majority win for the google population then - by an uncanny small margain, I might add. I guess those 21200 treacherous hits reflects back on people like... me. _________________ Fiction is the truth inside the lie. |
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JarlFrank Deutscher Kaiser

Joined: 04 Jan 2007 Posts: 10036 Location: The Fourth Reich
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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| MountainWest wrote: | | Vault Dweller wrote: | I'm not a native speaker, but:
It has ...
They have ... |
A majority win for the google population then - by an uncanny small margain, I might add. I guess those 21200 treacherous hits reflects back on people like... me. |
[Grammar Nazi Mode]
It should be reflect, not reflects, because the word hits, in this case, is plural. The verb form you used would be more appropriate if the word was singular.
[/Grammar Nazi Mode] _________________
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| Sterotypical Villain wrote: | | On another note: Frank deserves a promotion. |
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Astromarine Angry Cunt

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 2210 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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not to mention uncanniLY small would work better. /grin _________________ Astro
"Go skate into an AIDS tree, motherfucker!"
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MountainWest


Joined: 29 May 2006 Posts: 630 Location: Over there
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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| JarlFrank wrote: | [Grammar Nazi Mode]
It should be reflect, not reflects, because the word hits, in this case, is plural. The verb form you used would be more appropriate if the word was singular.
[/Grammar Nazi Mode] |
Now I'm afraid to write anything... But seriously, getting picked on is a good thing. While my English is crappy, I have a pretty good memory and I won't make the same mistake again. At least not until my next post.
Hmm, I was going to write 'While my English sucks", but then I thought that perhaps 'While my English suck' was correct. The rule of singular vs plural doesn't apply in this particular case (or does it? - 'It suck?'). And that sentence is, for obvious reasons, probably the worst to search on Google, if one wants to get a realiable majority win.
Is it:
They suck?
It sucks?
He/She sucks donkey dicks?
And does this apply on all verbs?
They walk
It walks
He/She walks
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| Astromarine wrote: | not to mention uncanniLY small would work better. /grin
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I get a distinct feeling of having opened a can of worms. I'm bound to make new mistakes everytime I post a reply to someones correction, thus this thread will grow infinitively and in an uncannily near future fill up and threathen the very internet itself. _________________ Fiction is the truth inside the lie. |
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Section8 Synaesthete

Joined: 23 Oct 2002 Posts: 4309 Location: Wardenclyffe
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | The post continues: "The whole truth of the matter is that the person at BioWare who took those screenshots made a mistake. People in our industry don't admit this much, but we do make mistakes. |
Fuck you, you fucking prostitute. People in "your" industry admit their mistakes all the time. Some of them even learn from them. Besides, it takes nothing to admit a "mistake" when its in your best interests as a company to do so. On the other hand, it takes balls to admit you've wronged your customer. I don't think i've ever heard Bioware even so much as hint at that. _________________
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Dark Individual Whiner

Joined: 09 Sep 2006 Posts: 6780
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Please dont turn this thread in yet another grammar discussion! Please! |
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Jasede Yiffster

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Elwro -


Joined: 29 Dec 2002 Posts: 8057 Location: Krakow, Poland
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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| MountainWest wrote: | | And now the big question for you native speakers out there: Is it "has made him"? or "have made him"? The former gives 939000 google-hits, the latter 974000 hits. "It have made him" gets 21200 hits while "It has made him" gets 31600 hits. I guess there's some parameter I'm not counting. | Imagine that it occured to you 2 years ago that you were unable to use Google. Wouldn't it have made you feel uncomfortable? _________________ Strong winds bring sea spray. I stand on the cliff, trying to endure the pain within me, growing stronger. Ever stronger
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MountainWest


Joined: 29 May 2006 Posts: 630 Location: Over there
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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I will. Thanks. He seems like a likeable fellow:
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| Elwro wrote: | | Imagine that it occured to you 2 years ago that you were unable to use Google. Wouldn't it have made you feel uncomfortable? |
Ah, of course. That's the missing parameter. _________________ Fiction is the truth inside the lie. |
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Volourn .

Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 13786
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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" I don't think i've ever heard Bioware even so much as hint at that."
Then you are deaf, and dumb. They have admitted errors multiple times. If they didn't; they wouldn't do bug fixes at all. L0L
Anywyas, thw whiny bullshit baout the pics was stupid. They looked fine. Damn retarded graphic whores looking for 'perfection'. Fuck 'em. _________________ R00fles! |
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Jasede Yiffster

Joined: 04 Jan 2005 Posts: 10113
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Concurred. It has walking animations, that's enough. |
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denizsi

Joined: 24 Nov 2005 Posts: 7231 Location: bosphorus
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Please dont turn this thread in yet another grammar discussion! Please! |
It should be "don't" and "into". _________________ RPG Codex: putting the "Retards" back with Perverts & Gays.
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Waking up to your sound again, and lapse into the ways of misery
Two to one... from pain to fun
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Claw


Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 3664 Location: The center of my world.
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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| JarlFrank wrote: | | You cannot dumb down graphics. You can only dumb down the intelligent parts of the game. |
Well, the graphics ARE the most intelligent part of many games these days. At least the engine is easily the most sophisticated part of many games, with most thought and effort put into it. _________________ "I wish I had some formaldehyde." |
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kingcomrade Manstructiclops

Joined: 16 Oct 2005 Posts: 22838 Location: Cognitive Elite HQ
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | It should be "don't" and "into". |
Quotation marks go after the period.  _________________ dear mythbusters, the airplane clearly cloud not take off becuse the wings arnt moving -an ayrospace phd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2bbTnU6E9M&feature=related
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Ahzaruuk


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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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*facedesk* _________________
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MountainWest


Joined: 29 May 2006 Posts: 630 Location: Over there
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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| kingcomrade wrote: | | Quote: | | It should be "don't" and "into". |
Quotation marks go after the period.  |
Not in this case. I don't know enough fancy English words to explain why, but I think you'll figure it out if you take another look at what he wrote. _________________ Fiction is the truth inside the lie. |
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Admiral Rimjob POOBUM


Joined: 30 Jul 2006 Posts: 5730 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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| kingcomrade wrote: | | Quote: | | It should be "don't" and "into". |
Quotation marks go after the period.  |
Only in your filthy Ahmerikhan English. _________________
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