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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 6:01 pm    Post subject: RIP The Pirate Bay Reply with quote

31/05/2006 - Never forget.
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In the morning of 2006-05-31 the Swedish National Criminal Police showed a search warrant to Rix|Port80 personnell. The warrant was valid for all datacentres of Rix|Port80 and was directed at The Pirate Bay. The allegation was breach of copy-right law, alternatively assisting breach of copy-right law.

The police officers were allowed access to the rack where the TPB servers and other servers are hosted. All servers in the rack were clearly marked as to which sites run on each. The police took down all servers in the rack, including the non-commercial site Piratbyrån, the mission of which is to defend the rights of TPB via public debate.


Nazis thugs.
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pwn3d.
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

meh it should be back up the swed poilce broke alot ofthier laws doing that raid. pirate bay is legal in sweden....i say some one bribed the police.....
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pirate Bay is just stupid, taking responsibility for stuff like that is like painting a target on your forehead. From what I gather this wasn't peer to peer rather than actually hosting a server filled with illegal material? P2P 4 Liiife... Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just another day in the corporate republic.
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stop me if I am breaking the rulz here, but could someone recommend a good replacement for the Pirate Bay? I think it was nic that recommended Empornium, and that rocks for porn, but I need something as good as that for everything else. A man cannot live on porn alone...
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good riddance. Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Torrent spy or USENET via Easynews if you have good broadband.
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They will find nothing because Pirate's Bay only hosts torrent files and those are just for tracking, on thenselves they do not contain any copywrited material.
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Music:
Oink.me.uk
Filemp3

General purpose:
Demonoid
Mininova
Norbits
TorrentBytes
Filelist

Porn:
PureTNA
Empornium
Fileporn


And so on


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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://isohunt.com/
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drakron wrote:
They will find nothing because Pirate's Bay only hosts torrent files and those are just for tracking, on thenselves they do not contain any copywrited material.


and that what pirate bay was doing is LEGAL in swedian.....it will be back up in one form or another.
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But the problem is The Pirate's Bay was used for a lot of tracking by other sites, such as TorrentSpy.

With the severs gone so goes the tracking of many Torrent files, of course when you have multi-tracking its not that much of a issue ...
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

www.teletorrents.org

This one's great.
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.mininova.org/

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http://torrentfreak.com/the-piratebay-is-down-raided-by-the-swedish-police/

"A final note: due to all these struggles, we might experience some downtime. One of the reasons is that more users visit Mininova now that TPB is down. We try to place an extra server as soon as possible."



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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tragedy!

They were good people; I admired their total refusal to be intimidated by thuggish lawyers. And I was just thinking about buying a shirt from them the other day, too.

It's still my hope that militant advocates of the ideology of 'intellectual property' will eventually die out (HAY Orrin Hatch)--younger generations, immersed in trading and technology, will go on to inherit the decision making apparatus, bringing to an end some of the nastier, byzantine applications of copyright law. Or perhaps abandon it all together.

I can hope, anyway. Then again, you see some kids proudly declaring their hatred of 'pirates', which is always a little sad to hear. There are more life-affirming partylines to parrot than profit protection.
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

glasnost wrote:
It's still my hope that militant advocates of the ideology of 'intellectual property' will eventually die out (HAY Orrin Hatch)--younger generations, immersed in trading and technology, will go on to inherit the decision making apparatus, bringing to an end some of the nastier, byzantine applications of copyright law. Or perhaps abandon it all together.

Yeah. Down with money and all that crap. I'd like to see how much new stuff will actually get produced once those nasty, byzantine applications of copyright law and the so-called intellectual property will eventually die out. That's what the Russians thought when they decided to get rid of capitalism and just enjoy free stuff for everyone. Worked out splendidly for them, it did.
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, if your only reason to create is to make money, then I doubt you have much of any 'worth' to give to me, anyway. Writers will write because they must. it's an outlet for their creative impulse, likewise for other kinds of artists. Other things are secondary.

And, if profits are of such paramount importance, why isn't every 'artist' up in arms about this kind of thing ('piracy', filesharing, etc.)? Many are not.

For the record, I'm not saying 'down with money'. I don't like the term 'intellectual property' because I feel it devalues (haha) what I do, and what the people I admire do. Which has nothing to do with products and profits, and everything to do with self-expression. Calling a great novel or game a piece of 'content' is a very ugly way of looking at things. It's a worldview that only sees things in terms of marketablity (in the broader sense), and never as ends in themselves.

Second, I'm against laws that are used to support/enforce purely artifiical restrictions on people (regionalized media players, software patents, digital duplication limitations, etc). These do not benefit anyone but people whose primary motivation seems to be the maximization of their wealth (and the strangulation of any potential competition), at the expense of everyone else. How is that a good thing?
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vault Dweller wrote:

Yeah. Down with money and all that crap. I'd like to see how much new stuff will actually get produced once those nasty, byzantine applications of copyright law and the so-called intellectual property will eventually die out. That's what the Russians thought when they decided to get rid of capitalism and just enjoy free stuff for everyone. Worked out splendidly for them, it did.


No copyright or IP laws couldn't stifle innovation much more than the bastardization of those concepts we're currently using. If we went back to the original laws and standards for this everyone but a handful of large companies would be much happier - which is just about always a good thing. Computing and Biotech areas are particularly bad - the concepts are clearly unpatentable under every standard set before lobbyists went to work buying the implementation of the current extortion-friendly system.

I have no doubt that the founders would actually have copyright and patents expire faster rather than much much slower. Industries move much faster now, and one can make a buttload of money on a good idea much faster now. Innovation, also is moving much faster, and would be moving much more quickly if groups couldn't milk ideas for decades.

I know my argument is weakened by not digging up details and specifics, but I can't be bothered. It's all out there on google, and there are plenty of facts to base your opinion on.
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the Swedish newspaper Aftonbladet (roughly translated):
When The Pirate Bay was closed at 12.58 this wednesday the internet traffic went down with 20%, according to statistics from Netnod, IDG writes.

Now thats a bit of traffic...

But I'm with Vault Dweller on this one, even though I download music on a regular basis. Fuck, I know I'm breaking the law. If the police come knocking on my door I won't cry nazi, thats just silly. It's stealing and in most cases distrubution of stolen goods, no more no less.

Oh, and welcome to me.
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well, if your only reason to create is to make money, then I doubt you have much of any 'worth' to give to me, anyway. Writers will write because they must. it's an outlet for their creative impulse, likewise for other kinds of artists. Other things are secondary.

You misunderstood. It's true that artists create art because they have those creative impulses, but without someone else's money, their ability to create and/or share their art with the world is either limited or destroyed. Troika is a fine example of that. Many people here agree that Troika was a fine RPG artist. No money -> no Troika -> no RPGs for you to play. Why? Remember Arcanum that was pirated like crazy because kids like you think that pirating is cool and copyright and intellectual properties are uncool? Well, it didn't sell well -> no Arcanum 2. Don't worry though, there are plenty of awesome, next-generation, multi-platform, generic as fuck games coming up soon.

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And, if profits are of such paramount importance, why isn't every 'artist' up in arms about this kind of thing? Many are not.

Many are dead.

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For the record, I'm not saying 'down with money'. I don't like the term 'intellectual property' because I feel it devalues (haha) what I do, and what the people I admire do.

What's in a name?

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Calling a great novel or game a piece of 'content' is a very ugly way of looking at things.

I agree. Stealing it is a much better way of looking at things.

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Second, I'm against laws that are used to support/enforce purely artifiical restrictions on people (regionalized media players, software patents, digital duplication limitations, etc). These do not benefit anyone but people whose primary motivation seems to be the maximization of their wealth (and the strangulation of any potential competion), at the expense of everyone else.

How very communistic. Insert a line about exploitation of proletariat somewhere for extra drama. Once again, in a system where capital is behind every artist, trying to reduce that capital is counter-productive for art in the first place. Massmarket art, which as one may argue is not really art, will survive. True art won't. Origin, MicroProse, Sir-Tech, Looking Glass, Troika, etc.

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How is that a good thing?

Exactly.
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

obediah wrote:
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The system aint perfect and needs to be changed, I agree. My point was that stealing is not a solution.

MountainWest wrote:
Fuck, I know I'm breaking the law. If the police come knocking on my door I won't cry nazi, thats just silly. It's stealing and in most cases distrubution of stolen goods, no more no less.

I have much more respect for people who know what they are and what they do, than for those who prefer to justify and seek excuses. Welcome, btw.
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sheesh people, just use eMule. Anything that uses torrents is inferior.
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope those Pirate Bay guys make comeback to the scene. They got some balls to show off on their webpage how much letters they have had from different companies claiming rights and like they don't give a shit. Their answers were hilarious to boot. And even if they don't come back, some else site will eventually replace them and become famous..... and get more attention from authorities. It's a never ending circle.
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