Let's Play - BGT with a Codex Crew

Silverstar · Oct 20, 2010

#1 Ehh, Imoen is not very neccesary in the pilot, nor does she have much content in the vanilla. But if you are going to try Imoen romance mod, you can have a lot fun with some of the more obnoxious choices to annoy her. And no 'OMG she is your sista how could you eww pervert burn in hell!!' stuff, aside from her only sharing a fracture of a dead god's taint/soul stuff, and thus not being a proper normal sister to player character, ie:Bhaal was assuming proper forms and bodies to sow his seed to different races, so I guess DNA structure and stuff should be vastly different for each time if you are into such unnecessary details for a frikkin' fantasy game/story. The mod is also NOT solely and disturbingly centered on the incestous sexual content, and has great stuff, tons of interaction&nice original cutscenes which fleshes out Imoen, her past, and personality and you can totally role play the caring brother/or total jerk. Imoen was planned to be killed off in Spellhold in the beginning script of BG2, but then was later added to the game near the end, so she has next to zero content post Spellhold SoA. So I guess it may be interesting for people to see the mod here.

#2 That would be great, I would like the compare content.

#3 Some stronghold quests are rather boring if you know them by heart. Definitely play fighter stronghold to the end, mods really improve the final fight in it. Also the mod which enhances Thief Stronghold is OK too, adding new content and old NPC acquantances way back from BG1. Other strongholds are fun first time around but offer little game play value.

dr. one · Oct 20, 2010

Silverstar said:
Also the mod which enhances Thief Stronghold is OK too, adding new content and old NPC acquantances way back from BG1.

its additions for the thief base itself were ok, but the additional quests were uniformly terrible as all involved excessive hack´n´slashery and not much else.
very unthievery and iirc, also quite buggy.

Rogue Rebalancing is all that´s needed to enhance rogue-y experience, imo.
plus, its special optional encounter is pretty awesome.

madbringer · Oct 20, 2010

1) Disregard sister, receive better party.
2) Don't care.
3) Sure, do them all.

waywardOne · Oct 20, 2010

1. keep imoen if you plan on taking sarevok. their restored interactions after the Pocket Plane are very nearly the only interesting NPC babble in ToB.

2. might as well.

3. might as well.

Radisshu · Oct 21, 2010

waywardOne said:
1. keep imoen if you plan on taking sarevok. their restored interactions after the Pocket Plane are very nearly the only interesting NPC babble in ToB.

This might do for some pretty good LP dialogue stuff, and you won't even have to write it. Well, you'll have to transcribe it, but still.

oldmanpaco · Oct 21, 2010

1) I will drop Imoen. I have a vision of possible doing another LP with IA installed next year (or the year after whenever v5 comes out). I will use all the fun NPC mods then.

2)

weiDU said:
// Log of Currently Installed WeiDU Mods

edit: This build was screwed again. Went more basic and looks good so far.

3) I'll do them all.

waywardOne · Oct 22, 2010

Grunker said:
You utilize the same mechanic against the monsters. You can quickload and not target the monster immune to your spells or effects.

The point of SCS is not only, not even perhaps, to make the monsters "smart", but to enable them to use the same tactics you do. In lieu of this, it is absolutely neccesary for them to understand which characters to target.

Your Helm of Protection Against Charm thus becomes a "the beholder will target other characters" instead of "the beholder will waste its turn and abilities on this character."

are you retarded? if you tell me you are, i'll go easy on you. if not, re-read my original complaint and see if you can find that part where a bad guy has to spend a round or two figuring out a particular PC might be immune or resistant as opposed to simply using typical AI metagaming. perhaps you reload every time a battle doesn't suit your OC needs, but i'm fine with imperfect fights as long as the AI can adapt, too.

the other part you missed is that it's very possible -- i'm doing it now -- to program adaptive AI that doesn't have to cheat and that it's been done before... and -- deep breath -- originally SCS/2 did the same thing but doesn't any longer. your "argument" seems to be countering Derp Tactics with Derp Tactics for the AI.

taplonaplo · Oct 22, 2010

Is it your first playthru?
No? Then RTFM before installing shit you don't want to. It's working as intended. If you are not satisfied with it go ahead and make your own AI mod. Bitching about stuff like this on the Codex IS what's retarded.

JrK · Oct 22, 2010

Lookin forward to BG2. Are we getting an update this weekend? :D

MicoSelva · Oct 22, 2010

What he said.

Mrowak · Oct 22, 2010

MicoSelva said:
What he said.

x2

MOAR NOW!

oldmanpaco · Oct 22, 2010

I hope I will have an update ready this weekend.

I forgot how much dialogue there is in BG2 compared to BG1. I used about 2900 screen shots (not including portraits) for BG1. Before I had to start over I had 1800 shots from just the staring dungeon, the circus, some Harper stuff, and the fighters keep deal. It’s going to be interesting to see how many I end up using.

Right now I have played half of the dungeon over again (I’ve been busy) and am sitting at 300 shots.

Edit: Had to reinstall again. Went very basic this time. Looks good so far.

MicoSelva · Oct 26, 2010

oldmanpaco said:
Edit: Had to reinstall again. Went very basic this time. Looks good so far.

When can we expect the update, noble sir?

hoverdog · Oct 29, 2010

oldmanpaco · Oct 29, 2010

MicoSelva said:
When can we expect the update, noble sir?

hoverdog said:

OK I have about 3000 pics ready to edit. BG2 is very chatty compared to BG1. I should have some updates this weekend for sure. This time I mean it.

What do people think about imprisonments? Is that the same as death or should I buy freedom scrolls?

Also we need some thieves and paladins in the recruitment pool.

BTW hoverdog – Halflings cannot be mage/thieves.

hoverdog · Oct 29, 2010

alright then, Abramakabra didn't die, just teleported from IWD :salute:

pic: http://www.deviantart.com/download/4651 ... esatho.jpg

human
thief 7lvl -> mage

stat-wise: str 12 dex 18 con 15 int 18 wis 10 cha 16

What do people think about imprisonments? Is that the same as death or should I buy freedom scrolls?

DEATH!

MicoSelva · Oct 30, 2010

oldmanpaco said:
What do people think about imprisonments? Is that the same as death or should I buy freedom scrolls?

Personally, I'm all for using scrolls found for free to release imprisoned party members (same for death/resurrection), but against buying more of them and/or learning the spell permanently.

oldmanpaco said:
Also we need some thieves and paladins in the recruitment pool.

Mico Selva is a fighter/thief ready for service in the character pool :salute:

. Unless he already died, of course.

oldmanpaco · Oct 30, 2010

MicoSelva said:
Personally, I'm all for using scrolls found for free to release imprisoned party members (same for death/resurrection), but against buying more of them and/or learning the spell permanently..

Well I don't think you can find freedom scrolls until after Chapter 2 and with SCS installed there are all kinds of mages throwing around imprisonment.

We will roll with it though.

MicoSelva · Oct 30, 2010

If it's that bad, maybe You should consider releasing them with a prepared spell after all. I don't know what the collective will say, but I wouldn't mind if You got one 9th level spell blocked for this sort of precaution

I would mind coming back to release imprisoned party members after a rest to prepare the spell or after finding a scroll, if You didn't have one during the fight.

EDIT: grammar.

marooned · Oct 30, 2010

That spell is totally broken (as ignores saves, level, HP, ...) and the only counter measure is the freedom spell. I say go all for it. Free imprisoned people after the fight has been won. I don't see that like resurrection at all.

I hope you start using the berserker rage more often though..

ghostdog · Oct 30, 2010

marooned said:
That spell is totally broken (as ignores saves, level, HP, ...) and the only counter measure is the freedom spell. I say go all for it. Free imprisoned people after the fight has been won. I don't see that like resurrection at all.

+1

JrK · Oct 30, 2010

ghostdog said:
marooned said:

That spell is totally broken (as ignores saves, level, HP, ...) and the only counter measure is the freedom spell. I say go all for it. Free imprisoned people after the fight has been won. I don't see that like resurrection at all.

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+1

*4

GarfunkeL · Oct 30, 2010

UPDATAN!

oldmanpaco · Oct 30, 2010

Interlude I

OK I suppose we should go report back.

Is this when the gold and women start coming my way?

I have no doubt.

We Travel Back to the Palace

Wait - what's about to happen?

We are going to Amn.

But they don't know us in Amn. We are bloody heroes here! It's time to reap the rewards.

That's a good point. Let me see if I can stop them from tele-

We get Teleported to Amn

BG2 Intro Movie

Paco Wakes Up

That stings you bastard!

What potential are you talking about?

Hey! I'm talking to you!

Stings doesn't it.

So much talking! My heads going to explode..

Hey Chief I'm here too.

Where the hell have you been?

You know resting up. Not a lot for me to do.

You could have tried to rescue me.

And we could have stayed in Baldur's Gate where the money was good and the women were plentiful.

Whatever. Let's go.

Who's the woman.

Just some girl I slept with once. She, uh, took it to heart I guess.

Ahh. Stalker. Got it.

Next - The Fabulous Chateau Irenicus

MicoSelva · Oct 30, 2010

Yes! Finally!
Moar! Moar!

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