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Let's play - Dragon Age: Origins (finished)

Whom to choose as a companion at the endgame. Options are mutually exclusive.

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Brother None

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Erebus said:
Is it actually possible to side with Bhelen ? Not that I'd be in favor of it : he fucked Bro over and there can be only one consequence to such a crime. But if the hero wasn't a dwarven noble, there'd be no reason why he'd have to choose this Harrowmont over Bhelen.

According to Volo it's possible to become king as a dwarf (and I'm ignorant for not knowing it roofles!)

Weirdly enough, it seems you can't just crown yourself when you return with the paragon's crown. Which makes no sense. Why not? But you can become king eventually, and Bro should def do so.
 

Sceptic

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Divinity: Original Sin
Brother None said:
According to Volo it's possible to become king as a dwarf (and I'm ignorant for not knowing it roofles!)
There's no mention of this ending on the wiki or anywhere else and I trust their word over Volly's any day.
 

Brother None

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Sceptic said:
Brother None said:
According to Volo it's possible to become king as a dwarf (and I'm ignorant for not knowing it roofles!)
There's no mention of this ending on the wiki or anywhere else and I trust their word over Volly's any day.

Roofles FFS why do you lie
(so paragon yes? King no? I've seen forum posts that you can become king in the epilogue. FFS. I really don't know)
 

Volourn

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"There's no mention of this ending on the wiki or anywhere else and I trust their word over Volly's any day."

That's because you are an ignorant tool trusting morons who spam wikis. And, they don't know how to read, and pay attention. *shrug*
 

Sceptic

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Brother None said:
Roofles FFS why do you lie
(so paragon yes? King no? I've seen forum posts that you can become king in the epilogue. FFS. I really don't know)
The "becomes paragon" option is listed on the wiki. The "becoming king" isn't. Normally I wouldn't take the wiki's word for it, but when the only proof of the existence of the king ending is a handful of forum posts (including Volly's) who consistently fail to provide a) a save game, b) which conditions they flagged to get that ending, or c) even something as simple as a fucking screenshot they get relegated to the Lies Bullshit Moaran drawer.

(FFS)
 

Volourn

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u r dum

You get it by siding with Harrowmont, saying no to the bitch dwarf, Harrowmont dies, you become king. I believe you also have to say in the epilogue that you are heading back to Orzammar.

GAME OVER, man, GAME FUCKIN OVER!


FFS FFS FFS

NERDRAGE NERD FUCKIN RAGEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



:lol: :shock: :lol:
 

Sceptic

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At least you had the decency to respond to complain b up there. I will therefore take you out of the LBM drawer. However, and considering you have an insane history of unreliability, I'll wait until someone can confirm this before taking your word for it.

(on an unrelated topic, your rages are becoming more impressive by the day)
 

Kthan75

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This is getting interesting, with Bro in Orzammar.

When are you planning the next update?
(nice work with the LP, btw)
 

Brother None

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I get a feeling from the writing that Twinkle's a bit bored doing all these combat-heavy updates.

Maybe parse them and just get through them even faster, leaving extra room for the interesting bits?
 

Twinkle

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Nah, Brother None, blame the Awakening. :)

Orzammar - Common Quarters. Familiar sight for a videogame- a gang requiring protection money from whiny shopkeeper.

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Figor: T-This is all I have right now. I could get more if I sell something--

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Roggar: Well, well. Looks like we have a visitor. Friend of yours?

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Figor: You... g-get out of here. This is private business.

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Bro: Looks more like extortion.

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Figor: Please. Don't get involved with this. You don't know what they're like!

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Roggar: Then allow me to make some introductions. These are dangerous times in Orzammar, stranger.

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Roggar: Lucky us, the merciful Jarvia is offering protection from the chaos. You're wearing some fancy stuff there. Might make you a target.

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Roggar: So if you want the carta's guarantee of safety, it's yours for the reasonable price of ten gold sovereigns. Or I can't say what might happen.

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Bro: (Intimidate) Take a good look. Do you really want to start this?

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Roggar: Whoa, whoa. All right, you win.

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Roggar: I'm not gonna die for ten lousy sovereigns.


He leaves the shop.


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Figor: Ancestors bless you for saving my poor store. I don't know how to express my gratitude.

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Bro: You could start by letting me look around your store...

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Figor: I'm showing you the lowest prices I can afford, I assure you.


So be it. Time to kick lazy Harrowmont's lapdogs at the arena. Not without interruptions - Orzammar has its own emotional bridge.

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Zevran: "Sten", it's not a name is it?

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Sten: Do you always begin conversations this way?

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Zevran: It's your rank is it not? I've met a few qunari in Antiva you know. Not much for conversation but some of them were quite easy on the eyes.

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Sten: ...Those are not qunari.

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Zevran: No? They are what then, very large dwarves with comical accents?

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Sten: They wear the faces of qunari but they are Tal'vashoth, fiends of Saharon. They have abandoned the Qun.

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Zevran: With titles like your own though, which makes me curious. What is your real name then?

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Sten: "Sten" is enough.

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Zevran: But it is not your name.

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Sten: It is who I am.


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Here's the first one.

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Baizyl: Look. I already told the proving master I withdrew. Do you have to keep harassing me?

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Bro: Who are you?

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Baizyl: Why, I'm Baizyl Harrowmont. But you know that. Why else would you--

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Baizyl: Um, if you weren't looking for me, do me a favor and pretend I never said anything.

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Bro: Not so fast. What are you trying to hide?

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Baizyl: Nothing. I'm leaving the Proving.

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Bro: If you tell me what's happening, I could help you.

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Baizyl: Look, it's just, when I was younger, I had a thing with this Aeducan girl: Revelka. Lesser cousin, nowhere near the throne.

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Baizyl: Her family wanted her marrying up, so they matched her with a Bemot. But... we didn't exactly stop seeing each other.

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Bro: So you're being blackmailed? Spit it out!

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Baizyl: Bhelen's fighter Myaja showed me love letters they have, from Revelka to me.

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Baizyl: If I fight, they'll expose us.

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Bro: I can get those letters back.

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Baizyl: You'd do that? I don't know how to thank you... I know it's my own fault, but I'd have married her if I could.

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Baizyl: Bhelen's fighter Myaja has the letters. If you make sure she never shows them to anyone, I'll fight for Harrowmont again.

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Baizyl: But you need to find them quickly -- registrations close once the first bout starts.


There are multiple ways to get those letters. We'll go with the fastest one - simple lockpicking.

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Reporting our success.

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Baizyl: The Proving's almost starting. I should leave if you haven't found anything.

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Bro: How much are those letters worth to you?

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Baizyl: You have them?

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Baizyl: If you can keep those letters from the public eye, I would gladly gift you with a finder's fee.

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Baizyl: Say, ten sovereigns?

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Bro: (Intimidate) Is that all Revelka's life is worth? I'll take fifteen.

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Baizyl: I certainly can't argue with that logic.

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Baizyl: Here you are. Now pardon me, there's little time left to rejoin the Proving.

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Baizyl: Thank you again, friend.


And another one.

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Gwiddon: You new in the fights? I don't remember seeing you before.

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Bro: You don't know me? Not much for politics, I guess.

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Gwiddon: Which is why I was on my way out.

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Gwiddon: Name's Gwiddon, and I just tendered my resignation. Somehow, I don't think the ancestors will favor me today.

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Bro: Aren't you fighting for Lord Harrowmont?

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Gwiddon: I've fought for House Harrowmont in the Deep Roads for twenty years and will again. I don't regret a minute of that service.

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Gwiddon: But it's my family's job to protect this city, not get caught up in political games better left to the Noble Caste.

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Gwiddon: It's not so much what happened as what's going to. I heard from a reliable source Lord Harrowmont's already given up the throne.

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Gwiddon: Bhelen called this whole Proving to let his Lordship save face when he concedes.

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Bro: This is ridiculous! Harrowmont isn't conceding.

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Gwiddon: Oh? And where did you hear this that's more reliable than a member of the Assembly?

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Bro: (Intimidate) Dulin. And I'm rallying honorable fighters for Harrowmont!

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Gwiddon: I... I suppose there's nothing his Lordship would do without consulting Dulin. He's always been his top man.

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Gwiddon: Maybe you're right. I-I'm just a warrior. I've always tried to stay out of these noble politics...

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Gwiddon: If I find out this whole thing was some flunky of Bhelen's lying to me for his own gain, I'll... I'll...

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Bro: Slink out of here like a kicked dog?

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Gwiddon: No, you're right. I owe Lord Harrowmont more than that.


Manning up those whiners is not enough, however. Bro'll show that fucking serpent Bhelen and his ilk who's the true bro.

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Proving Master: My Lord Aeducan! We heard you were dead. What are you doing here?

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Bro: I'd like to fight as Lord Harrowmont's champion.

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Proving Master: I guess I should have seen that coming. Bad blood with your brother and all.

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Proving Master: Let me just put you into the schedule, here...

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Proving Master: Now, is there a particular name you wish listed?

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Bro: You may call me Bro.

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Proving Master: I don't know if that's such a good idea.

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Proving Master: I'll just call you "Grey Warden", since you're no longer of House Aeducan.

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Proving Master: We actually have an opening in the first round.

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Proving Master: Are you ready to start?

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Bro: Ready and eager.

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Proving Master: That' what I like to heat. I will warn you, though: This is your last chance to make preparations or meet the competition.

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Proving Master: Once the fights begin, there are no new additions to the roster. All withdrawals are treated as losses and a sign of the ancestors'
disfavor.

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Proving Master: Do you want to start, or would you like some time? The fighters' quarters are behind the ring.

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Bro: What are you waiting for? I want to fight.

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Proving Master: Go down to the ring, then. I'll be right there...


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Proving Master: This is a Glory Proving, fought under the eyes of the Paragons of Orzammar to honor the memory of King Endrin.

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Proving Master: First up is Seweryn of the Warrior Caste. Many of you remember when Seweryn made history as a lad of twelve by defeating his own father in this very ring.

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Proving Master: Today, he fights as a champion for Prince Bhelen. Opposing him in Lord Harrowmont's name is a member of the famed Grey Wardens!

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Seweryn: In the name of House Aeducan and our future King Bhelen!

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Bro: Get ready to eat those words.

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Proving Master: First warrior to fall is vanquished. Fight!

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Proving Master: The winner is the Grey Warden!

Cut.

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Proving Master: That was an exciting start, Warden. Seweryn is rarely trounced... and so thoroughly!

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Proving Master: Are you ready for your next opponent?

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Bro: I'll tear out his spine!

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Proving Master: Excellent! Let us go.



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Proving Master: This is a Glory Proving, fought under the eyes of the Paragons of Orzammar to honor the memory of King Endrin.


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Proving Master: This round, Harrowmont's champion takes on the notorious duo, the Warrior Caste's twin terrors, now fighting for Prince Bhelen -- Myaja and Lucjan!

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Myaja: May the Stone honor you...

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Lucjan:... when you fall.

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Bro: Sure, and may the dirt taste good when I feed it to you.

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Proving Master: First warrior to fall is vanquished. Fight!

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Proving Master: The winner is the Grey Warden!



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Proving Master: Well, that was an exciting bout. Two on one and you took them both easily.

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Proving Master: Are you ready for your next opponent?

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Bro: I'll tear out his spine!

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Proving Master: Excellent! Let us go.



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Proving Master: This is a Glory Proving, fought under the eyes of the Paragons of Orzammar to honor the memory of King Endrin.

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Proving Master: Harrowmont's champion has held the field so far, but how will he do against one of the legendary Silent Sisters?

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Proving Master: We'll find out as the Warden faces Lady Hanashan, who proved her worth to Paragon Astyth the Grey by cutting out her own tongue.

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Proving Master: And to our Prince Bhelen by fighting in his name.

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Hanashan: --

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Bro: Is self-mutilation supposed to frighten me?

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Proving Master: First warrior to fall is vanquished. Fight!


Without a single scratch.

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Proving Master: The winner is the Grey Warden!


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Proving Master: Harrowmont will be pleased, Warden. The Silent Sisters' support was a great boost for Bhelen.

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Proving Master: Are you ready for your next opponent?

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Bro: I'll tear out his spine!

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Proving Master: Excellent! Let us go.



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Proving Master: This is a Glory Proving, fought under the eyes of the Paragons of Orzammar to honor the memory of King Endrin.

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Proving Master: This round is paired combat. Just as Kiotshett fought as King Bloadlikk's second defending our empire, so have dwarves always fought alongside a second.

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Proving Master: Master of all weapons, prisoner of none, Wojech Ivo has never won the same way twice. What will he do today, lords and ladies, and will it win the day for Prince Bhelen?

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Proving Master: Grey Warden, choose your second, for you face Wojech Ivo and Velanz.

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Bro: In support of Harrowmont, I choose Baizyl as my second.

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Baizyl: You honor me.

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Proving Master: Last one standing will be declared victor! Fight!

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Proving Master: The winner is the Grey Warden!


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Proving Master: Wojech Ivo is one of the best this arena has seen, Warden. Harrowmont picked wisely.

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Proving Master: Are you ready for your next opponent?

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Bro: I'll tear out his spine!

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Proving Master: Excellent! Let us go.



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Proving Master: This is a Glory Proving, fought under the eyes of the Paragons of Orzammar to honor the memory of King Endrin.

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Proving Master: Only two warriors remain. Fighting for his royal cousin Bhelen, Piotin Aeducan has led his team to triumph over every unit so far.

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Proving Master: Challenging him on behalf of Lord Harrowmont, the Grey Warden has risen from nothing to stand at the competition's summit.

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Proving Master: Each will lead a full unit of four soldiers, to see once and for all whom the ancestors favor.

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Piotin: You should not have returned, exile. You are a disgrace to House Aeducan.

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Bro: My brother is the disgrace. As my victory will prove.

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Proving Master: Last one standing will be declared victor! Fight!


The only really challenging opponent on the arena if you are unlucky enough to fall a victim of his critical strike.

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Proving Master: The winner is the Grey Warden!

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Proving Master: Congratulations. You defeated the man Prince Trian himself once called "the horns of my army."

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Proving Master: Do you deny this Grey Warden has earned the championship?

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Proving Master: Then, it is my honor to declare this Grey Warden champion of the Proving, who has shown that the ancestors favor Lord Harrowmont!

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Bro: Are we done, then? Because I could use a drink.

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Proving Master: Spoken like a true warrior.


We won the day, Harrowmont should be pleased. Speaking about drinks - we'll have to meet Dulin at the tavern.

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Not without mandatory chit-chat on the road.

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Shale: I am curious. Will the painted elf answer a question?

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Zevran: Why not? I appear to have all day.

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Shale: The painted elf attacked the Grey Warden, and yet it still lives. Had the decision been mine, its skull would be so much pulp right now.

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Zevran: Oh, I don't know. Could you destroy something as pretty as I am, hmm?

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Shale: Easily. I fail to see how any measure of attractiveness would make one difficult to crush.

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Zevran: Perhaps you do not know how to look, then.

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Zevran: Take a long look at our Grey Warden, my good friend. Right there we have an object worthy of worship, no?

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Zevran: One would have to be blind not to realize how very pretty we all are and how important that is to preserve.

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Shale: Hmph. Perhaps there are definitions of "blind" I have yet to understand.




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Old woman desperately praying at the ancestors' altar. Bro is better than them - he always deliver on a promise provided that the reward is worth the hassle.

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Filda: I'm sorry. Did you have an offering for the ancestors?

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Filda: I can move aside. I don't have much to bring them.

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Bro: Did I hear you mention your son?

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Filda: My name is Filda, widow of Teruck of the Smith Caste. I pray here every day for my son, Ruck.

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Filda: I only wish I knew whether I should be asking for his safe return or for the ancestors to accept his soul.

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Bro: "Safe return?" Your son is missing?

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Filda: It was five years ago. He was only a youngster. He joined a Deep Roads excursion -- the only smith to go with the warriors to repair their arms. He was so proud.

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Filda: But he got... separated somehow. When they came home, he wasn't with them.

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Bro: Do you want me to look for him?

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Filda: How? There is no way except to brave the Deep Roads yourself.

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Bro: I didn't say I'd do it for free.

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Filda: You're asking what I would pay for your services? I have little money since my husband died.

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Filda: But wait. I saved his shield: the masterpiece my husband smithed. I was saving it for Ruck's return.

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Filda: If someone were to find my son... or his body... they can have the shield, with my blessing!

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Bro: We shouldn't abandon him. I'll look for him if you want.

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Filda: How? There is no way except to brave the Deep Roads yourself.

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Bro: I'm a Grey Warden. That's what we do.

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Filda: A Warden! So you could do it! Only Wardens face the Deep Roads without a company backing them.

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Filda: Oh, thank you! The ancestors finally heed my prayers!

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Zevran: Hmph. Don't get your hopes up. We could search the Deep Roads for decades with no sight of the boy.

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Filda: Please. Find me as soon as you return!


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Dwarf in female clothes. Tranny? No - just a priest.

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Brother Burkel: Maker's blessing upon you, brother.

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Bro: Why are you invoking a human god?

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Brother Burkel: The Maker brought forth this world and every creature in it.

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Zevran: In my experience, religious people are inveterable liars.

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Brother Burkel: He chose a human woman as His prophet and bride, but He loves all races.

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Brother Burkel: Even elves.

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Brother Burkel: I'm Brother Burkel, of the Redcliffe Chantry, returned to my ancestors' land to spread the Chant of Light.

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Brother Burkel: I'm petitioning to open a chantry in Orzammar.

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Bro: Why would we want a human chantry in Orzammar?

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Brother Burkel: There is... resistance.

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Brother Burkel: It's obvious the world wasn't created by the mortal souls who dwelt within it.

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Brother Burkel: But Orzammar persists in worshipping its Paragons and forefathers, instead of the Maker.

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Sten: Hmph. Let them worship whatever they like. The Qun is the only way to enlightenment.

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Bro: (Persuade) If that's true, then he will come to it in time.

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Sten: Perhaps. Each must find his own way to the truth.

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Brother Burkel: Are you saying you will help?

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Bro: What do you need from me?

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Brother Burkel: Do you have any influence with the shaper of memories?

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Brother Burkel: The Shaperate controls changes in Orzammar's structure and society.

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Brother Burkel: I need the shaper of memories' permission to open a prayer meeting.

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Bro: Do you want me to talk to him for you?

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Brother Burkel: Oh, I'd hoped you'd say that!

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Brother Burkel: I can see the Maker's hand on your shoulder, guiding you always.

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Brother Burkel: Please, let me know as soon as you've heard anything.


Finally, the tavern.

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No Shale, unless modders fix it. :(

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Some mentally troubled dude is shouting nonsense. Are aliens involved?

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Nervous Adventurer: What! Get away! You'll change, like the rest. Monsters hidden in all my friends!

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Bro: Is this darkspawn corruption or just madness?

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Nervous Adventurer: There's things older than darkspawn. And once you're in the story, they find you.

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Nervous Adventurer: See, I found copies. All from the same pen and older than the ones in song! Dormant, my arse!

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Nervous Adventurer: Take them! I want out!


No, Bioware writers aren't that kkkreative. Anyway, reporting to Dulin.

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Dulin: Atrast vala, Champion. I hear your performance in the Proving was nothing short of amazing!

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Dulin: I must thank you for bringing both Baizyl and Gwiddon back into the fight. His lordship was touched to see his old friends stand for him.

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Dulin: There can no longer be any doubt where your sympathies lie.

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Dulin: If you're ready, Lord Harrowmont will see you now.

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Bro: It's about time.

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Dulin: I apologize. But having lived with that serpent, Bhelen, your whole life, you cannot blame me for wanting to test your loyalties.

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Dulin: His lordship is eager to see you again.



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Harrowmont: I must say, after your parting words, I did not expect to see you again. Whatever your role on Trian's death, I cannot believe Bhelen is guiltless.

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Harrowmont: I am glad you found a new place among the Grey Wardens.

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Bro: Is it true my father wished you to be his heir?

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Harrowmont: He knew what a poor king Bhelen would make; he saw it sooner than the rest of us.

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Harrowmont: One of his last requests was that I carry out his wishes as Orzammar's next king. It was the greatest honor of my life.

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Bro: All I want is your support against the Blight.

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Harrowmont: For us, the darkspawn are a constant menace, so a Blight may not elicit the same urgency you are used to.

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Harrowmont: Ultimately, the Assembly decides what troops to send. If they no longer fear civil war, they'll have no reason to hold back.

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Harrowmont: If you want my support to count, I will have to be king, and right now, there is no sure way to get there.

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Harrowmont: Have you heard of a woman named Jarvia and the criminal carta she runs?

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Bro: I take them out, you take the credit? Is that the plan?

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Harrowmont: I'm... glad you're so eager. If you help me shut her down, we can show the Assembly I am the right king to defend Orzammar.

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Harrowmont: Jarvia hides her base in Dust Town, the raw edges of the city where no one lives but casteless and criminals.

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Harrowmont: If you would help me in this, it would show the Assembly that I, and not Bhelen, have the ability to defend and rule this city.

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Bro: My son has been denied noble status. Can you help him?

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Harrowmont: A son? I did not... your father didn't know of any son. I suppose the girl has... no status of her won?

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Harrowmont: If you help me take the throne, I promise I will formally adopt the child into my household.

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Harrowmont: Is that sufficient? Will you assist me against the carta?

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Bro: I'll go right now.

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Harrowmont: Do this and I promise if I take the throne, I will not stop until the Assembly sends your troops.

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Harrowmont: Look for Jarvia in Dust Town. Do whatever it takes to see that justice is served.


Bhelen's fanboys openly attack Bro on city streets. Oh, serpent, how I want to rip your fucking heart off!

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Exit to Dust Town.

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Erebus

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Nice update ! The dwarf city really seems to be one of the more interesting places in the game.

Seems pretty absurd to have us fight alone against two opponents, and later let us have a second in a similar situation. Are Myaja and Lucjan supposed to count as a single opponent just because they're twins ?
 

Brother None

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Twinkle said:
Nah, Brother None, blame the Awakening. :)

What's that? You're going to do an Awakening LP right after this one?

Bro: My son has been denied noble status. Can you help him?

Harrowmont: A son? I did not... your father didn't know of any son. I suppose the girl has... no status of her won?

Oy! You ruint Volourn's kingship theory. Now we'll never know :(
Or is the "no to the dwarf bitch" something else?! I WANT A BRO KING
 

Twinkle

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Dust Town.

Dumb meat learns the hard way.

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Let's talk to the locals.

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Rogek: Who're you? You don't look like any guardsman I ever saw, and that's not much of a uniform.

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Bro: (Persuade) I'm Bro, a Grey Warden.

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Rogek: Oh? You looking for a chance to bring in some coin?

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Rogek: Could be I have the opportunity. Especially for someone with a few connections above-ground.

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Bro: I'd have to hear what you're asking.

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Rogek: Human kings, you know, they make these ridiculous laws.

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Rogek: Like about who gets to buy and sell lyrium, the sacred gift the Stone provides us to show her love. Now law should regulate that.

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Rogek: The laws are meant to keep mages away from the stuff, so there's always buyers in the Circle Tower. I've got one man, name's Godwin, he's expecting a delivery of a stone's weight.

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Rogek: You want an investment opportunity, I could see fit to, say, sell you that lyrium instead -- at the reasonable price of fifty sovereigns.

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Rogek: You can keep it or -- since you can travel freely from here -- sell it to Godwin, who you know is buying.

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Rogek: And, uh, if you bring back his return order, I could pay you... say twenty sovereigns as a finder's fee?

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Bro: (Persuade) Fifty's a bit much when you've got no options. Forty.

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Rogek: (Sigh) You haggle like a merchant-born. Deal.

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Rogek: Here's the lyrium, then. You, ah, probably don't want to take it out of the box.

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Rogek: I'll be waiting for the next order somewhere out of sight. Say... just around the corner?


This dude was a thief in the house of learning.

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Shady Corebit: What do you want, Warden? You're out of your element down here.

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Bro: I'm looking for a thief who dared steal from the Shaperate.

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Shady Corebit: Is that so? What makes you think anyone here would turn me... I mean, this person in?

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Shady Corebit: You've walked into a sodding fight, Warden, and I've already passed your stupid tome along. Too bad for you.


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Receipt on his body reveals that he's passed the tome to someone who's currently at the Proving Grounds.

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Suspicious store and it's grumpy owner.

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Alimar: What are you looking for? We got nothing to buy for the likes of you. Or maybe you wanted to sell?

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Bro: Let me see the wares.

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Alimar: Of course.


He sells tool of the trade for thieves.

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Alimar: You're back. You got more business for me?

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Bro: What do you know about Jarvia?

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Alimar: Enough to know she don't fancy strangers asking questions.

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Bro: I'm looking for the carta's base.

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Alimar: Best way to find it is stand on any street corner in Orzammar and insult Jarvia's mother.

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Alimar: You'll wind up there quick enough. And have a real long time to get to know the place.

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Bro: Would you know more if the question came with silver?

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Alimar: Could be if thirty silver came my way I might know a bit.

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Bro: (Intimidate) Here's twenty. If I like your information, you may get more.

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Alimar: Fine.

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Alimar: Only Jarvia's men know all the entrances to her base. Bit I tell you, I've watched them, they go up to what look like bare walls and poof! Gone.

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Alimar: Like there's a secret door. There's one just across the way. Watch long enough and you'll see.

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Alimar: Now, you owe me thirty silver.

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Bro: Actually, now's when I kill you so you don't tell anyone.

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Alimar: Mother of dust!


:twisted:

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Let's continue our quest probing all-knowing hobos for relevant info.

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Nadezda: Well, look at that. It's not often ol' Nadezda sees a fine-dressed stranger here in Dust Town. Help a poor cripple?

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Bro: I might have money if you have information.

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Nadezda: What are you looking for?

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Bro: Do you know woman named Jarvia?

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Nadezda: Know her? I used to run with her.

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Nadezda: Jarvia took over the carta not more than a year ago, and already she's got every duster with both legs bearing swords for her.

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Bro: Where could I find her?

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Nadezda: Won't be easy. She's gotten real careful since Beraht died, real paranoid.

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Nadezda: She's got carta members all carrying these finger-bone tokens. She scratches some mark into them, so she'll know they came from her.

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Nadezda: There's doors to her base all over the city, but only one is ever open at a time, and if you show up without a token, you'd never know it was there.

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Bro: Where do I find one of these tokens?

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Nadezda: Can't help you there, salroka. The carta members keep them real tight.

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Nadezda: Now how about that coin you promised?

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Bro: If you can't get me Jarvia, you don't deserve my coin!

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Nadezda: B-but, you promised! I got nothing more to give! Where are you going...?


:lol:

Another one.

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Zerlinda: H-have you as coin to spare, m'lord?

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Zerlinda: It's for my son. He's sick. He hasn't any clean clothes to wear, or anything to eat today. N-neither have I.

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Bro: Ugh. Get a job!

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Zerlinda: And what would you have me do? With a sick infant and no husband to help! When my very family has disowned me unless I--

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Zerlinda: But no! I can't bear to even think of it!

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Bro: What does your family want you to do?

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Zerlinda: My son's father is casteless, as is he. I used to be a miner, but my parents stripped my caste and refused to accept me back.

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Zerlinda: Unless I agree to abandon the child in the Deep Roads and pretend I never bore him.

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Bro: That does sound like the best option, I'm afraid.

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Zerlinda: How can you say that?!

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Zerlinda: I cannot abandon my baby.

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Zerlinda: The shapers teach that only children of true lineage exist, not those born casteless. But they never carried a child.

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Zerlinda: He cries like any other infant and smiles when he's warm and full. I can't kill him because of an accident of birth. An accident I forced on him!

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Bro: (Persuade) What kind of life will he have? Spare him that pain.

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Zerlinda: Maybe it would be better to spare him that, let him join the ancestors. I could go home...

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Zerlinda: I-I have to be alone now. Excuse me.


The only accessible house in the whole "town" location.

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Thug: Well, look what we have here.

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Thug Leader: Jarvia said you were looking for trouble. Congratulations, you found it.


A few cuts and he begs for mercy.

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Thug Leader: D-don't kill me! Sodding ancestors, what do they teach you on the surface? You fight like a bleeding archdemon!

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Thug Leader: Sweet bloody Stone, look at them all!

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Bro: (Intimidate) Tell me how to find Jarvia, or you join them!

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Thug Leader: The base is below the city. Y-you can get to it through the wall of the third house on this row. Put this token through the slot and it'll open.

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Thug Leader: Will... will you let me go now?

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Bro: No. Now you die like all of Jarvia's lackeys!

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Thug Leader: No!


YES! :D
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Here's the secret door.

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Suspicious Door: This door appears to be made of solid stone. There are no visible means of opening it.

On closer inspection, there is a small slot concealed in a fold of the stone, just big enough for a finger.

Bro: Put finger bone token in the slot.

Suspicious Door: The door unlocks.


Carta Hideout

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Carta Doorman: What's the password?

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Bro: "Jarvia sucks lizard eggs?"

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Carta Doorman: Looks like we have a martyr, boys.


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This dungeon is one of the most boring in the whole game easily beating majority of Derp Roads locations.

You'll encounter the samey mobs of lightly armored dwarves and traps. Lots of traps.

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Jammer's Stash - the only sidequest available here. Pretty simple - you must take cheapest item from three different boxes to circumvent DRM on the real stash.

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Running carta is siriuz bizness - sometimes you'll encounter mercs from the surface.

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The first box - Bro takes silver ring.

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More hack'n'slash

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Zevran is pretty useful here thanks to easy xp from disarming traps.

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Carta even had its own small prison for poor fuckers unable to repay their debts.

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The second common box. Iron dagger is the item to pick.

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The last box and the last item - garnet trinket.

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Pressing forward.

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And here's the stash. It was barely worth the hassle: only 7 sovereigns and longrunner's cap.

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Finally, we reached the goal of our tunnel crawl.

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Jarvia: So, Harrowmont finally realized we're taking the city, yet he still can't be bothered to send his own men.

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Jarvia: Well, you picked the wrong side, stranger. It doesn't matter who's king, as long as there's a queen!

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Bro: Shut up and die!

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Jarvia: An excellent idea. Boys, why don't we help him take his own advice.


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The real enemies here are the traps - Jarvia and her goons can make a short work of you while you are on the ground.

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Bro fulfilled the task.

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Key from Jarvia's body unlocks the door leading to the alternative exit to Orzammar.

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Brother None

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The Dust Town dungeon crawl is p boring. It was nice to do as a dwarf commoner, tho', see the old sites again.

For some reason I found the fight with that bitch dwarf one of the hardest of the game. Thoughts?
 
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This dungeon is one of the most boring in the whole game easily beating majority of Derp Roads locations.
Quoted for emphazis.
Prior to derp roads I'd though the elves were a nice warmup, if a bit on the bland side. After having played through the robbers dungeon I realized it was the best the game had to offer.
 

Twinkle

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The passage led to a smith's store.

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Janar: Gah! By all the beards of my ancestors! How did you... where did you come from?

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Janar: Y-you made a hole in my wall!

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Bro: You! Do you have anything to do with the carta?

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Janar: No! I don't have anything to do with them! They're criminals!

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Janar: When they built this part of the city, they must have built over some tunnels. I swear, I had no idea.

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Janar: Aw, just leave me alone. I don't want anything to do with this. And if anyone comes asking, I'm gonna tell them you did it!


Finishing the quest.

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Harrowmont: I heard the news. Jarvia and her carta are dead. I suppose it was unrealistic to expect them to surrender.

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Bro: Now, can you help my son? He was denied noble status.

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Harrowmont: Yes, I made a promise and I intend to keep it.

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Harrowmont: If you help me take the throne, I promise I will formally adopt the child into my household.

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Harrowmont: But first I must tell you, killing Jarvia was not enough. Bhelen still has a majority and he wants to force a vote tomorrow.

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Harrowmont: To help with your troops, I will require your assistance one last time.

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Harrowmont: Do you know anything of the Paragon Branka?

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Bro: Always another step. Get to the point.

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Harrowmont: As a Paragon, she outranks even the Assembly. Were she to support me as king, this awful debate would be over.

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Bro: Are you sure Branka would support you as king?

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Harrowmont: It's hard to say what she would do. She wasn't exactly known for her predictability.

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Harrowmont: She never seemed to like being a Paragon. She was devoted to her craft, never cared for politics. But one of the most brilliant minds Orzammar has seen.

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Harrowmont: Branka hated darkspawn with a passion. She would certainly be a valuable voice to support your treaty.

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Bro: What if she's dead?

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Harrowmont: Her entire house went with her. It would take a lot to kill so many.

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Harrowmont: If not, bringing proof of her death or a body to return to the Stone, would still show that as an ancestor, it was my hand she guided to her remains.

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Bro: If it will get you the throne, I will find Branka.

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Harrowmont: My men traced Branka's disappearance to an ancient crossroads known as Caridin's Cross.

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Harrowmont: It is many miles below where we normally venture, but I can provide a map to lead you there. Just enter the Deep Roads through the mines.

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Harrowmont: Thank you again. And may the ancestors guide your steps.


Unwanted street popularity.

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Dealing with chantry problems.

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Shaper: When I last walked this hall, Endrin was king and Orzammar was at peace.

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Shaper: The Memories often speak of the swiftness with which change overtakes us, but it is different to see it firsthand.

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Shaper: I apologize, Warden. I should not burden a stranger with such thoughts. I am Cziber, the shaper of memories.

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Bro: I am no stranger to Orzammar, my Lord Shaper.

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Shaper: Your exile is written in the Memories, Warden. I am sorry, but Orzammar cannot be your home, nor I your shaper.

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Shaper: We must all obey the ancestors' rules.

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Bro: I would like your permission to open a Chantry here.

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Shaper: That is an odd request.

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Shaper: Have you grown so fond of the surfacers' ways in your brief absence?

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Bro: One of Orzammar's own has returned to spread the Chant.

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Shaper: I thought so. This is not the first time he's made this plea.

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Shaper: My answer to Brother Burkel hasn't changed, so I ask you the same.

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Shaper: On what basis would you have me insult the ancestors and overturn two thousand years of tradition?

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Bro: (Intimidate) Would you rather wait for a human army to convert you?

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Shaper: Why I do not appreciate your tone, I have considered that point.

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Shaper: Perhaps we will allow Brother Burkel his prayer meeting... as a show of diplomatic good faith.

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Shaper: At least the words would come from one of our own.

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Shaper: Now, is there anything more?

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Bro: No. Thank you for your time.

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Shaper: I will record this conversation in the Memories. I hope I do not come to regret it.


Now to the Proving Grounds to catch a book thief.

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Zevran: I've thought about your predicament, my friend.

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Shale: It has thought of a way to lure birds out of the sky?

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Zevran: I mean your situation... being made of stone and such. I imagine it must be terrible for you to see others... together. You know.

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Shale: Together. As in standing next to one another?

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Zevran: I speak of love, my sturdy friend. And the act of love. Surely this must bring you discomfort, knowing you can never partake in such pleasures.

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Shale: That is disgusting. It was bad enough that I had to suffer the occasional pair of villagers lying in my shade, but the idea of partaking? Gah!

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Zevran: You are stoic, my friend. And brave. You do us a great honor by suffering in silence.

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Shale: I was not suffering, silently or otherwise, until now.

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Zevran: I understand.


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Now, with all obstacles removed, it's time to do business.

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Jertrin: This deal was all their making, Warden. Technically, I haven't done anything wrong. We have no business.

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Jertrin: Unless you want to make a few coins. Not that I'm suggesting anything, but you're holding the prize now.

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Bro: You know what? I'll take the deal.

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Jertrin: Sensible. I think you'll find that gold is a fine remedy for whatever outrage the Shaperate might have imparted.

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Jertrin: Pleasure doing business with you.


"Few coins" were two sovereigns.

Mandatory bridge blah-blah-blah

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Sten: I do not understand what a golem is. Why would anyone create such a being?

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Shale: Why would one create a sword? To strike at its enemies.

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Sten: But you are no sword, golem. You speak like a living creature, but act like a possession. I do not know what to make of you.

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Shale: (Snorts) I am no possession, not now that the control rod is broken.

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Sten: No? It is still in your heart. Do you even realize this? "Age by age have men stood up and said to the world, 'From what has come before me, I was forged, but I am new and greater than my forebears.' And so each man walks the world in ruin, abandoned and untried. Less than the whole of his being."

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Shale: It is a riddle?

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Sten: (Sigh) It seems so.


Surprise, surprise - we have a forced companion here. Cool game design, bros.

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Oghren: Stranger! Have you seen a Grey Warden hereabouts?

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Oghren: I've been privy to the rumor that he... or was it she -- you understand this was many mugs ago -- was searching for Branka on Lord Harrowmont's own command.

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Bro: I am a Grey Warden, and that would be "he."

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Oghren: Well, if you're the best they've got, then standards must have fallen way down.

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Oghren: But I suppose that would account for that pack of surfacers you've got with you.

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Oghren: Say, could I ask you a favor?

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Bro: No after you just insulted me!

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Oghren: Oh, stuff your head! I have a bleeding Paragon to find. I don't have time to worry about your sodding feelings.

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Oghren: I'm not saying I should be your first pick a dance partner at whatever highness's inaugural ball, but in the Deep Roads, I'm your man.

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Oghren: And if you're looking for Branka, I'm the only one who knows what she was looking for, which might be pretty sodding helpful in finding her.

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Bro: Cut to the chase. You can come if your info is good.

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Oghren: You should know that Branka was looking for the Anvil of the Void, the secret to building golems, which was lost centuries ago.

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Oghren: The smith Caridin built it, and with it, Orzammar had a hundred years of peace, while it was protected by the golems forged on the Anvil.

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Oghren: As far as anyone knows, the Anvil was built in the old Ortan Thaig. Branka planned to start looking there, if she could ever find it.

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Oghren: All she knew was that it was past Caridin's Cross. No one's seen that thaig for five hundred years.

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Bro: Harrowmont gave me a map. I can get to Caridin's Cross.

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Oghren: If we're going, let's get moving. Branka's not going to sodding find herself.


Bye-bye, Sten, now we have another big weapons fan.

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Mines Commander: I'm sorry, but I cannot allow you past the front lines without a deshyr's permission.

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Oghren: Open your eyes, man! This Grey Warden is on a quest to find your Paragon! Do I have to take your stinking head off?

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Bro: That's telling him.

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Mines Commander: Oghren could have been a deshyr for House Branka. I suppose he's the next best thing, in both skill and arrogance. You may pass.

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Mines Commander: I'd offer more assistance, but my command post is here. All of Orzammar relies on us to hold the line.

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Bro: Are darkspawn the only danger in these tunnels?

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Mines Commander: Of course not. Down here, you're bound to run into giant spiders, deepstalkers, and other vermin.

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Bro: I should go.

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Mines Commander: Best of luck.


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Aeducan Thaig. That's the place where Bro killed Trian. Other than that it's pretty unremarkable hosting typical mix of darkspawn and deepstalkers.

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The only object of interest here is the sack containing bag of limbs which are involved in a certain quest.

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So we've cleansed it of all vault cave dwellers and it's time to push further into Deep Roads.

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Sceptic

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Surprise, surprise - we have a forced companion here. Cool game design, bros.
You sure? I think I ditched Oghren until the very last area, the one with the Anvil. You get a party composition popup there and then you're forced to add Oghren. That's also a good time to add Shale, but who in their right mind wouldn't take Shale along anyway?
 

Twinkle

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Sceptic said:
Surprise, surprise - we have a forced companion here. Cool game design, bros.
You sure? I think I ditched Oghren until the very last area, the one with the Anvil. You get a party composition popup there and then you're forced to add Oghren. That's also a good time to add Shale, but who in their right mind wouldn't take Shale along anyway?

Yes I am. The point is he's still forced on you no matter what, like Alistair or Morrigan, only with even more lame excuse.
 

Begriffenfeldt

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God drat I still haven't gotten over how awful the Deep Roads were. It's just trash mob after trash mob for hours on end. Even when you get to the area where this famous technodwarf guy supposedly made his super awesome traps, all you do is fight darkspawn and the occasional golem. And what's worse is you can't even bring your preferred party, because Bioware wants to show you some of the cool cutscenes they made. I can't decide whether it's lazy or retarded game design.

Anyway, carry on, Ser.
 

Sceptic

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At least when NWN2 OC forced a party member on you it extended the party limit so that you could still take your regulars with you. Then when you no longer had to take that member you still got to keep the extra slot. Therefore NWN2 OC > DAO :smug:
 

Twinkle

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Deep Roads - Caridin's Cross

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Oghren: Caridin's Cross!

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Oghren: I can't believe Harrowmont actually tracked this place down.

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Oghren: This used to be one of the biggest crossroads in the old empire. You could get anywhere from here. Including Ortan Thaig.

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Bro: Great. Lead on and shut up.

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Oghren: Well, according to Branka's maps, Ortan Thaig ought to be off the lowest part of the main road here...

Oghren disapproves -1


Looks like Bhelen's people got here first.

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Hired Goon: Well, look what we have here...

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Hired Goon: A couple of Harrowmont's little lackeys...

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Hired Goon: Let's show 'em who's king!


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Prepare for some Bioware humorz.

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Oghren: So. Do golems know any good jokes?

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Shale: I know at least one. It is a drunken dwarf that travels with the Grey Warden, constantly belching and--

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Oghren: Bah! I mean a real one! You must have overheard at least one or two standing there as you did for years and years!

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Shale: There was a human man who once started telling a joke to another as he relieved himself on my leg. I confess I didn't listen. I was too busy planning my revenge.

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Oghren: Eh? And what happened to him?

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Shale: He disappeared during the fighting in Honnleath. Tragic. Hit his head on a rock, I think.

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Oghren: Huh. Remind me not to fart anywhere near you.


The whole level is just bowel full of darkspawn, no surprise.

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Drifter's Cache. Another "click on three things and get a bonus".

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Bro looted part of Topsider's Honor sword from genlock's body. The sword itself can be reforged later.

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More limbs for flesh monster.

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Get out of here, stalker!

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Another drifter's rubble.

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Oghren is jealous.

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Oghren: So, uhhh. You and the boss, huh?

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Zevran: If by "boss" you are referring to who I think you are, you are correct.

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Oghren: Uh, hm. Just. Good luck with that.

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Zevran: Why, thank you ever so much.

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Oghren: You might want to... y'know. Keep it down, though.


A revenant to kill

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Glass Phylactery: Among the jumble of containers there is the glint of something different. A small phylactery sits conspicuously on its own.

The area is unnaturally cold. Dark shapes swirl around a slip of paper within the vial.

Bro: Take the vial.

The glass fractures at your touch.


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The Crossroads. Shitton of darkspawn here, with some territory covered by ballista fire.

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A head in a bag.

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The last pile of rubble.

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Suddenly the crate appears out of nowhere. But to be fair it's one of the few instances when loot is really good for what it is.

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The end of the level

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Erebus

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Twinkle said:
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Oghren: So, uhhh. You and the boss, huh?

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Zevran: If by "boss" you are referring to who I think you are, you are correct.

I thought Bro had dumped Zevran because Morrigan didn't want to share ? (Of course, Morrigan isn't there for the moment...)
 

Hieromancer

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Erebus said:
I thought Bro had dumped Zevran because Morrigan didn't want to share ? (Of course, Morrigan isn't there for the moment...)

Speaking of which, did you actually have to speak to Zevran and tell him that it was off (or even get an opportunity to do so), or did the game automatically do it, or something else?
 

Brother None

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Hieromancer said:
Erebus said:
I thought Bro had dumped Zevran because Morrigan didn't want to share ? (Of course, Morrigan isn't there for the moment...)
Speaking of which, did you actually have to speak to Zevran and tell him that it was off (or even get an opportunity to do so), or did the game automatically do it, or something else?

You have to confirm it with one of the two. The other will magically know and bring it up next time you speak with him/her. You can't go back on it then, just lose likey-points with them.

How Oghren knows about their former romance is beyond me.
 

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