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Community VtmB patch controversy quelled and patch reboot

Diogo Ribeiro

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Tags: Troika Games; Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines

Anyone who's been following <a href=http://www.vampirebloodlines.com/entrance.html>Vampire: Bloodlines</a>' community for a while, as well as visiting our forums lately is probably aware of the controversy surrounding the patches available for <a href=http://www.terra-arcanum.com/troikagames/>Troika Games</a>' final CRPG, with Wesp and Tessera being the main participants. It seems Tessera and Acrimonius have <a href=http://www.tessmage.com/forum/index.php/topic,298.msg2371.html#new>something to say</a> about it all:<blockquote>We did in fact use many of Wesp's scripts when we created the original version of our patch. Those scripts already contained many legitimate bug fixes, so we saw no reason not to draw from them. Those scripts are also laced with comments from Wesp, in which he cites his own name all over the place within those scripts. Underneath many of those comments are the actual entries that Wesp then changed. In many cases, the changes that Wesp had made were legitimate repairs and Acrimonious left them intact. In many other cases, the changes Wesp made were inappropriate and Acrimonious changed those entries back to what Troika wanted them to be. He did not, however, remove the comments from Wesp... as a courtesy to Wesp himself. Obviously, this was back at a time when we were in a hurry to produce an alternative and also, Acrimonious still had a degree of respect for Wesp back then. For all I know, he still does... respect Wesp, that is.(...)
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Acrimonious is a trooper. He has worked his butt off on our True VTMB Patch, adding no less than 100 additional megabytes of bug fixes and restored content (...). This entire project has been a labor of love and it has also been a gift of sorts to the VTMB community. We would absolutely hate to see our good intentions being trashed by an angry post-adolescent, whose childish ego is preventing him from understanding why this patch needed to be made. At the same time, we don't wish to see any of Wesp's tantrums against our patch gain any traction within the VTMB community. That has left us with only one legitimate path to take in this matter:
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Starting today, Acrimonious has restored his VTMB installation to the official (1.2) version. Now see if you can guess what he has decided to do next...
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Yep, he has decided to totally, utterly and completely go through every single Python script and configuration file, all over again, by himself. Acrimonious already knows what all of the bugs in VTMB are and where they come from. He is an expert programmer in his own right (as we have already seen) and he is going to totally re-patch this game himself. Re-compile it from scratch. Re-compile it without incorporating anyone else's pre-existing works. (...)
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Summary:
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(1) The current version of our patch will no longer be fully supported by us, due to the controversy surrounding it.
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(2) The next version of the True VTMB Patch, which will be named 4.04AT, is currently being produced. Stay tuned for updated info about the progress of that patch.
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(3) The next version of our patch WILL NOT WORK unless it is applied to a clean, fresh installation of VTMB. If you have been using ANY
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previous patches or mods -- including our own patches -- then you will need to ERASE the entire game from your hard drive and do a complete re-installation of the game -- BEFORE you can properly apply the next version of the True VTMB Patch.
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(4) Future patches produced by us WILL support everything from 4.04AT --> onwards. They will NOT support any patches or mods that were produced prior to upcoming version 4.04AT. This means that if and when we release an updated patch after 4.04AT, you will not need to do this re-installation deal all over again. You will be able to install any future patches directly on top of 4.04AT, without any problems.</blockquote>Hopefully, the whole mess won't stop an actual patch being developed by whoever decides to work on one. Good luck to everyone involved.
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Spotted at: <A HREF="http://www.tessmage.com/forum/">Tessmage Forums</A>
 

Zomg

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Intarnet politics are vicious precisely because the stakes are so small.
 

hoochimama

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If Acrimonious is the programmer then what does Tessera do? PR and drama?
 

Fez

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She's the official drama llama of the project.

Fantastic bit of internet politics nonsense.
 

psycojester

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Tessera is there to call people childish and watch boobies bounce in the mature and refined nude mod
 

obediah

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anyone that replies to posts by using their admin powerz to edit them is a douche bag.
 

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We did in fact use many of Wesp's scripts when we created the original version of our patch. Those scripts already contained many legitimate bug fixes, so we saw no reason not to draw from them. Those scripts are also laced with comments from Wesp, in which he cites his own name all over the place within those scripts.

Well, they did in fact use _all_ of my scripts and I added comments with my name attached only because this is common to mark where and what you were doing.

In many other cases, the changes Wesp made were inappropriate and Acrimonious changed those entries back to what Troika wanted them to be.

Now I guess it's a matter of opinion what "inappropriate" is and judging from the state the game was released in and the way Troika handled their own patches (just look at all the changes they did to TOEE), how should anyone know what Troika had wanted had they have had more time to do their own patches?

Acrimonious still had a degree of respect for Wesp back then. For all I know, he still does... respect Wesp, that is.

Yes, he does. We are right now in contact on the GameBanshee forums because I think he underestimates the work he will have to face when doing all from scratch, especially as some people probably would not believe him anyway because he could always just look at my files and comments and reproduce them. In fact it turned out that he wanted to include my patch readme with proper credits like agreed upon all along which would have prevented this whole conflict and it was Tessera who didn't honour his promise!

Acrimonious is a trooper. He has worked his butt off on our True VTMB Patch, adding no less than 100 additional megabytes of bug fixes and restored content (...).

Another 100 MB of fixes and restored content? I don't think so ;)! Anyway, I have nothing against Acrimonious or an alternative bug-fixes-only patch and I even renewed my offer to use my patch as a base as long as the "true" name is changed and the original readme with proper credits is included. Now let's see what happens...
 

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Wesp5 said:
Yes, he does. We are right now in contact on the GameBanshee forums because I think he underestimates the work he will have to face when doing all from scratch, especially as some people probably would not believe him anyway because he could always just look at my files and comments and reproduce them. In fact it turned out that he wanted to include my patch readme with proper credits like agreed upon all along which would have prevented this whole conflict and it was Tessera who didn't honour his promise!
Have you talked to, or thought about talking to, Acrimonious on the topic of dissolving his partnership with Tessera? I'm enthusiastic about the idea of a "bug-fix-only' patch (no offense, but I've found some of the changes in your patches to be dubious in reasoning), but it seems that Tessera brings little but drama into the project; causing a lot of wasted time and effort. Acrimonious doesn't really need special hosting on Tessera's website, and from what I understand, Tessera provides nothing that can't be replaced.

Both you and Acrimonious seem like reasonable people, and there seems to be no reason why you can't work together on his patch; besides Tessera's inferiority complex.
 

the_dagon

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ok, they won...

now I'm completely lost with the patches...

- official 1.2
- unofficial 3.5
- controversal true patch 4.04AT (not compatible with previous one)

So a dumb question :
I played the original 1.2. If I want to replay, which patch should I try...
 

Wesp5

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Kotario said:
Have you talked to, or thought about talking to, Acrimonious on the topic of dissolving his partnership with Tessera?

I have. I have even repeated my offer of basing his patch on mine on the condition that he includes the full readme and calls it something different e.g. basic or bug-fixes-only patch.

I'm enthusiastic about the idea of a "bug-fix-only' patch (no offense, but I've found some of the changes in your patches to be dubious in reasoning)

As I don't know if Acrimonious will take the offer or how long it would take him to redo all the fixes on his own, I'll ask you to just tell me which changes you didn't like in my patches. Maybe we could do something about it from that end or at least I could try and explain my reasonings if they appear dubious.
 

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the_dagon said:
ok, they won...
I played the original 1.2. If I want to replay, which patch should I try...

As you already played the game in it's original state you should replay it with 3.5 or the soon to be released 3.6 to witness all the small details you may have missed because they were buggy or completely hidden.
 

DarkUnderlord

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Sorry. What? Did I miss an internets dispute?

Bummer. :(
 

mathboy

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Wesp5 said:
the_dagon said:
ok, they won...
I played the original 1.2. If I want to replay, which patch should I try...

As you already played the game in it's original state you should replay it with 3.5 or the soon to be released 3.6 to witness all the small details you may have missed because they were buggy or completely hidden.
You mean all the small fucked up details you added?

# Making love to Jeanette is now possible regardless of the storyline.

Anybody who even thinks it might be a good idea to add that to a mod should not pretend to be "patching" the game. Tessera might have weird interests, but she doesn't fuck the game up by adding them.

Get the True Patch.
 

psycojester

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Tessera doesn't actually do anything beyond bitching. Its Acrimonious thats doing the work, and shut the fuck up mathboy we've already been over that patch of drama. We have no desire to repeat it because you arrived late for the first act.
 

mathboy

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I won't shut up because that means the_dagon will get the wrong patch, and possibly someone else who reads Wesp5's completely objective post.

And I read the whole other thread, but in it, nobody seemed to realize just how fucked up the changes Wesp5 made were instead of focusing on the fact that the True patch removes most (all?) of the fuck ups you were more interested in bashing Tessera for liking nude people.
 

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mathboy said:
And I read the whole other thread, but in it, nobody seemed to realize just how fucked up the changes Wesp5 made are

Well, then please list all the fucked up changes and maybe I can explain my reasoning for them or I may even remove them altogether if you can convince me they are stupid. Just to start with the one you already mentioned:

It was always possible to make love to Jeanette. But do you really think it was better when you needed to _kill Therese to be able to do it_? What kind of view is that? Also besides all the stuff Jeanette tells you when you meet her or the fact that she even slept with Tung, the moment I choose to make it happen, with an high enough seduction feat, she says "Hurry up, I can only amuse myself for that long." That sentence fitted like a glove ;)...
 

mathboy

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Why should I read through your readme files when the makers of the True patch has already done so?

Why don't you instead convince us to use your patch by giving examples of the completely fitting things that aren't in the True patch?
 

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mathboy said:
Why should I read through your readme files when the makers of the True patch has already done so?

Because maybe you wouldn't have the same opinion as someone like Tessera?

Why don't you instead convince us to use your patch by giving examples of the completely fitting things that aren't in the True patch?

Because you could just actually read the readme instead, they are all in there...
 

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Tessera's latest release, blaming Wesp for everything including the Black Plague:
Tessera said:
I've thought about this dilemma all weekend and I've reached a decision about our current True VTMB Patch.

I am NOT going to remove our current patch from this site. It works great and it does what we said it would do. I won't allow Wesp and his tantrums to screw the rest of the VTMB community out of having a choice. It was Wesp's irresponsibility that placed us all into this awkward position of having to create a dual-purpose patch in the first place. Had Wesp behaved responsibly and done the right thing, we would not have felt obliged to create a patch that not only fixes bugs, but also removes any of Wesp's mods that the users were PROBABLY already using. Since that meant we needed to incorporate repairs to every single file that Wesp had changed, so as to ensure that his versions would be overwritten by our patch, there was no way for us to avoid the issues that were imposed upon us when the True VTMB Patch was created. Those issues have now given Wesp an excuse to start trouble, but I have decided not to cater to him any further.

The True VTMB Patch 4.03AT will continue to be supported by us.
However, it willl be replaced with an entirely new patch in the very near future.

It was never our goal to create controversy of any kind with our work. Our goal was to fix the game and to free people from the monopoly that has been imposed upon them, for over two years, by Werner Spahl (Wesp) and his mods. We have achieved our goal, but unfortunately, we've also inadvertently incited a turf war with Wesp that no one wants to be bothered with. For the time being, I have weighed all of the pros and cons of this mess and I have decided that above all, the VTMB community comes first. That's why I am going to leave the 4.03AT patch as-is and continue to support it. Wesp wants us to yank our patch from sight, so that he can continue to posture himself as The One True God of VTMB. I will not allow that, sorry.

At the same time, I do not wish to be the focus of any future controversy with our patches, so the work on the next version is continuing. When it is released, it will no longer serve any sort of "dual purpose" function. Right now, the True VTMB Patch will not only patch in fixes to the game, but it also patches out any damages done by Wesp. Well, the next version(s) of our patch will no longer pay any attention to Wesp's mods. That means that when the time comes for everyone to move over to our next True VTMB Patch, we're all going to have to erase any previous installations of the game and completely re-install everything from scratch. That way, the entire game will begin all over again with a clean slate and the only files that will be altered are those original files that our next patch actually needs to fix. There will be no more consideration given to anyone who may have been using Wesp's mods. We're cutting all connections to that person's work and by doing so, he will no longer have any future excuses to sabotage our reputations with his whining.
 

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I'd be just lame, but Tessera's tone in conjunction with the nude patches moves it to "WTF?" levels. I think if Wesp and Acrimonious worked together, maybe we could get 2 separate things: a "patch" with bugfixes and a "mod" with more subjective stuff like balance changes etc? I think it'd be the best solution.
 

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On total whim I patched up and started playing Bloodlines again this weekend. I played through two years ago as a Malkavian. It's almost like playing another game, but only because I actually understand the dialog options. I'm having a good time with it.

Look, as a gamer, all I give a damn about is whether the patch fixes bugs without introducing new ones. I respect the folks who put their free time into this stuff, but in a nutshell, I just don't give a fuck. I don't care who wrote the original scripts. I don't care whether it's an act of hubris to call your patch the true patch. I don't care about all this inane internet drama. I've been playing White Wolf games for about ten years now and if there's anything that I've learned, it's this - the designers have personality disorders and so do a majority of the folks who are drawn to these games. Google "happy pretendy fun time games" and cut the shit, would you?
 

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I think I'm pretty sure I like pretty much the same stuff Tessera does, fixes for obvious bugs, not design changes.

I'll post a list including at least 2 bad ideas, including the one about making love to Jeanette:
v3.4
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Added civilian humanity loss to Giovanni, pier and Blood Hunt maps.
Increased chance to notice the Ocean House killer and hid his axe.
Made Giovanni snort girl mortal and added xp for Dementating Chunk.
Restored female rat drain, male Hysteria, Mira and Heather sounds.
Made more Chinatown enemies wield new blade and lowered it's worth.
Placed Gary in council cutscene and synced courtroom sword sounds.
Gave .38 on tutorial completion and an xp but no items on skipping.
Restored Yukie's visible sword and moved Ra blade to Fu Syndicate.
Added unused quest logs and missing muzzle flashes to the tutorial.
Made Mercurio sell the body armor, but only after the Hallowbrook.
Swapped a Tremere history and showed player alive at Anarch ending.

Corrected more misplaced props and replaced "DMP" flickering blood.
Restored missing flamethrower stats and voices at Grout's mansion.
Repaired Romero lip-syncro, cut line and Strauss not giving reward.
Fixed Milligan Pisha bug, Lotus Blossom key board and Carson's pc.
Created a few missing Malkavian lines for Damsel, McFly and Imalia.
Fixed lines of Gary, Kanker, Venus, Jeanette and more text issues.
Restored invisible tabletops and many absent light and lift cables.
Renamed flaming to 'Pyro Crossbow' and adjusted the warrens dates.
Added stealth bonus hints and cut Heather's hair, thanks to MooCHa.
Included Bloodlines editing tools and fixed a Pisha quest log bug.
Adjusted Glock deploy sound and restored missing Desert Eagle ones.

v3.3 11.1.2007
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Replenished Misti's blood and repaired broken Tremere blood return.
Awarded xp when releasing Julius and restored Ming/Fu connections.
Made ghouling Heather easier again and added camera moving to cfgs.
Gave katanas to Temple and Society enemies and removed respawning.

Prevented Boris' door from closing and Dema from vanishing in view.
Fixed hospital screams and dialogue bugs of Arthur, Cal and Pisha.
Shortened Ventrue loading tip and some histories names to fit page.
Removed flickering reservoir decals and fixed many floating props.

v3.2 30.11.2006
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Put cut cat model at 609 and replaced flickering blood on the Dane.
Added humanity loss for killing innocents in several combat areas.
Modified bad discipline effects for non humans, thanks to Populism.
Used hidden Ithaca sound, gave Colt to Boris and fixed more props.
Renamed Bloodsuckers' to Bats' Communion and updated female Sabbat.
Made Imalia and Mitnick turn better and Isaac give his gift later.

Fixed hunters spawning on main hubs and another Imalia's quest bug.
Repaired possible freeze on freeing Lily and left over respawning.
Corrected GLOCK name, modified clothing text and added cl_smooth 0.
Made sure the fast Nosferatu dies and rendered Empire TV inactive.
Improved first Heather dialogue and fixed Vandal and Bertram lines.
Changed Yukie log, two pc prompts and wrong level re-enter sounds.

v3.1 20.10.2006
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Unbarred Ming's Temple door and hopefully fixed Beckett's wait bug.
Made Copper leave for infusion and restored Pisha's meal cutscene.
Removed hunter when Ash is gone and erected more tipped over props.
Turned character screens music off and lowered Venus' cut to $125.
Fixed ammo in Romero's trunk and reduced zombie spawning frequency.

Restored Jeanette/Therese struggling scene and a few Heather lines.
Made speech stop when Bruno enters and fixed some Giovanni guards.
Corrected errors in dialogues of Christopher, Milligan and Jezebel.
Deleted theatre statists and restored Larry's quest for Nosferatu.
Changed some weapon infos and moved Giovanni Mansion diving boards.

v3.0 5.10.2006
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Darkened Beckett's glasses and fixed some others, thanks to MooCHa.
Added speech to Jack's cheat lines and lessened Ming's bar weight.
Granted humanity for persuading Therese and Jeanette to make peace.
Lowered baseball bat, tire iron and new katana skill requirements.

Erected several tipped over props and added a few inspection nodes.
Corrected a few bugs in dialogues of Milligan, Julius and LaCroix.
Moved the bum in the abandoned building and restored his fast exit.
Fixed entering the pawnshop crash caused by sound, thanks to Bogj.

v2.9
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Renamed new blade dropped by the asian vampire to 'Replica Katana'.
Tseng will offer the SPAS directly and the flaming crossbow later.
Made Larry's quest independent of buying and fixed briefcase scene.
Released trapped Fu Syndicate guard and added Julius killed lines.

Changed flaming crossbow text and added some more inspection nodes.
Corrected typos and lines for newscaster, Lily, Copper and Vandal.
Removed another warehouse spawning and restored beachhouse weapons.
Fixed superguards at Giovanni Mansion and the bonus Sweeper lines.

v2.8
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Made all enemies drop their weapon when killed except the Brothers.
Added missing inspection node to Bertram's CD and many more items.
Unlocked doors to Boris for Venus quest and lowered Dema condition.
Removed .38 got for skipping the tutorial and added the quest log.
Swapped histories around again to alter those that made no changes.
Lowered .38 ammo price and time when crossbow bolts are available.
Added humanity loss for sending Copper and a wrong bloodpacks line.

Moved misplaced Ra texture folder and corrected female wield model.
Restored exploding King's Way runner and altered book loading tip.
Fixed options when asking Trip for weapons and a Prince line error.
Removed respawning warehouse thugs and missing beachhouse weapons.
Made clinic guard not open doors twice and added a Nurse condition.
Fixed Eerie Presence bonus and reactivated the downtown sewer map.
Repaired possible Gallery crash on entry and resetable quest state.

v2.7
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Cops now have Glocks and dead enemies will drop somewhat more ammo.
Missing texture for the Ra blade reconstructed, thanks to Xealous.
Made paying angered Vandal easier and added a Gargoyle quest state.
Removed the zoom mode of the 'Jamie Sue' and balanced with damage.
Fixed Eliza not raising Melee and wrong Thistle effect description.
Moved computers and firearms books from Trip to clinic and Carson.

Restored Zygaena appearing in the Red Dragon after talking to Ming.
Fixed wrong conditions in dialogues of LaCroix, Beckett and Tseng.
Circumvented bug that made it possible for Boris to be unreachable.
Corrected several histories in which the Melee bonus did not work.
Repaired bug that could make Imalia angry before getting her quest.
Fixed python script errors in Grout's Mansion and Vesuvius levels.

v2.6
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Added missing xp for plague quest and fixed Hannah quest state bug.
Made Tseng not offer blood as he doesn't even know about vampires.
Venus will now give you a constant $250 payment when you visit her.

Removed another double Malkavian line and clarified two quest logs.
Fixed a bug that reset Yukie's quest if you spoke with Ming again.
Made Chunk not be in the Asylum anymore after you met him downtown.

v2.5
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Made Mitnick mail his reward already after the first schrecknet hub.
Raised chances for Jeanette and Therese peace and Jeanette winning.
Lowered Persuasion requirements for all Giovannis to the same value.
Hacking and lockpicking powerup models centered, thanks to DDLullu.
Modified xp and log for one plague quest state, thanks to Acleacius.
Made Mercurio morphine quest update if you already had some on you.

Fixed xp gain for entering Gallery Noir by seducing Chunk once more.
Removed a surplus Malkavian line and altered some answers to Venus.
Restored missing Masquerade redemption for ways to get rid of Patty.
Fixed Glock walking animation and changed the Ra blade description.
Repaired VV and Jeanette sending you their emails at the wrong time.
Corrected a condition when telling Damsel about the Chang brothers.

v2.4
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Visible fangs added to all vampires missing them, thanks to DDLullu.
Raised Obfuscate frame rate with autoexec.cfg, thanks to Acleacius.
Made it possible for all clans to get the secret info from Johansen.
Fixed a stats condition issue that may result in several new lines.
You will receive a point of humanity for warning Wong Ho about Ming.
Gaining the Tremere haven is now independent from the quests order.

Restored Jeanette encounter that somehow got lost in recent changes.
Changed conditions and text for entering gallery with Chunk's help.
Corrected two lines to Isaac and Knox and changed a Muddy quest log.
Fixed speaking to LaCroix before going to the Society another time.
Removed double Masquerade redemption gained by taking care of Patty.
Added variable for Vick's death that may clear up connected quests.

v2.3
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Put ten 'Jamie Sue' rounds in Romero's trunk for the cemetery quest.
Lowered humanity points gainable during the serial killer dialogue.
Standardised key names in options, loading tips and tutorial popups.
Made charity money stay available after the paintings were slashed.
Decreased kick of Mac 10 and Steyr Aug and restored Ra blade damage.
Removed illogical player@directory prompts from computer terminals.
Altered an Imalia line and a quest state for "bonus" magazine quest.
You'll lose a point of humanity for giving the pendant to Jeanette.
Stopped VV sending her poster so you won't miss out on Gary's email.

Repaired 2.2 bug of Giovanni and Hitman quests not being recognized.
Persuading Jeanette and Therese to make peace is like intended now.
Checking of texts and subtitles concluded by RobinHood70 and myself.
Fixed a double answer to Gary and modified Viktor/Maria Persuasion.
Altered some histories that made no change, no sense or added items.
Shortened a line of Strauss that wrongly claimed moving your stuff.
Changed a Pisha line to reflect the possibility you killed Milligan.
Added the missing graph files for the modified Venture tower level.
Corrected one last name on the Santa Monica busstop and sewer signs.
Stopped dead Malcolm sending mail and Adam repeating a line of his.
Fixed small bugs in Damsel, Knox, Beckett, Venus and Ming dialogues.
Restored lost lines of Flynn and moved some Malkavian lines around.
Removed bug allowing all clans to move using one downtown sewer map.
Correctly stated Brujah Unarmed bonus and Nosferatu Seduction zero.
Made speaking to LaCroix before going to the Society possible again.

v2.2
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Included the unused histories so that each clan has seven plus none.
Swapped trouble making history conditions with similar limitations.
Provided twenty places for Malkavian voice whispers during dialogue.
Restored welcome lines of Bertram including xp gain and log update.
You will lose a humanity point when making Ash exchange his clothes.
Fixed graphics of baton, VV photo, Megahurtz card and Gary's tapes.
Restored xp gain for entering the Gallery Noir by befriending Chunk.
Made Bruno attack on lockpicking the Giovanni Mansion meeting-room.
Removed respawning at Lotus Blossom, Temple, Venture and Giovanni's.
Making love to Jeanette is now possible before taking on her quest.
You will lose humanity for taking money for solving the Tawni quest.
Moved Giovanni loading tips up and added lost lines of the sweeper.
Removed Gallery Noir key after use and made several items droppable.
Lowered additional damage done by all weapons using the zoom modus.
Renamed flaming crossbow 'Kuei-jin' and lowered both bow accuracies.

Repaired 2.1 story state continuity bug after talking to the Changs.
Checking of text and subtitles continued by RobinHood70 and myself.
Corrected one occasion where Mr. Ox would not give the right reward.
Fixed missing state and xp for bad luck Talisman quest from Mr. Ox.
Changed text of Isaac, Beckett, Romero, Knox and Bertram's postures.
Added infos for flaming crossbow bolts and made vendors offer them.
Removed Barabus line calling you a Cammy and fixed a line with Mira.
Fixed Venus giving you a quest twice and a question about Jeanette.
Awarded xp for killing Bruno Giovanni in the second mansion map too.
Fixed quest state reset on drop and re-pick up of the Salvage card.
Added Pisha line about quest item and checked state for another one.
Corrected a warrens sign and added lines for Malkavians and Kanker.
Removed an endsequences taxi bug and added some missing level names.
Made Strauss offering you money or taliman and fixed a Chunk error.
Repaired not working Muddy quest fix and modified plague quest logs.
Mr. Ox will react correctly when you already have aquired the eyes.
Restored Yukie to shop from the start and set lock difficulty to 10.
Prevented activating hubs a second time and revisiting Ocean House.
Made Tseng talk only of known people and Johansen scream more often.
Deleted invisible blocks at the warehouse to provide stealthy exit.
Fixed wrong conditions of Gimble, Jack, Strauss, Bertram and Slater.
Wong Ho and hostess will be gone from the Red Dragon for all clans.
Removed bonus for stealth killing Johnny and made guards more aware.
Changed Grout quest log, sewer key description and a Mitnick email.
Modified Milligan's Intimidate dialogue so that it makes more sense.
Many Malkavian responses and Dementation uses fixed by RobinHood70.
Fixed Protean tutorial text, body armor description and a quest log.
Corrected Tawni quest failure warning to work for all quest states.

v2.1
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Moved occult items from warrens and Tseng's to be rewards of Mr. Ox.
Made everybody lose a humanity point for sending Milligan to Pisha.
Swapped damage of Desert Eagle / Colt Anaconda and SPAS-15 / Ithaca.
Moved one Tawni quest camera into the kitchen to fit Imalia's text.
Made letting Julius go free for money end up with humanity balanced.
Lessened damage for frenzy check and corrected shown armor ratings.
Added line so you can give the CD to Bertram if you already have it.
Made CDC guys leave later and Chunk not send you up again at times.
Stealing charity money will not cost humanity if you know its usage.
Made vendors sell SWAT rifle bullets and lowered price of fire axe.
Created new braid icon and placed the cut chewing gum in Ramen shop.

Corrected typos, mapname LA to downtown and subtitles to fit speech.
Removed npctemplate* files, delete those if found in /vdata/system.
Renamed Sabbat Thug speaker name to Thug and a few Trips to Vandals.
Redid lost changes to Wong Ho dialogue about the silver haired man.
Made Giovanni guard at the rear entrance of the mansion speak again.
After giving Ash the bloodpack it will be gone from your inventory.
Fixed Damsel recognizing Malkavians and Romero offering them pimpin.
Repaired more problems in Hitman quest and added a new quest state.
Added plague bearer quest log hint and allowed sewer-warrens detour.
The morgue computer will now mention Crumb only after he is around.
Restored sounds for the Ra blade and made killing Lu lower humanity.
Fixed dialogues asking Flynn about Castity and Wong Ho about glaze.
Made Dane cop acknowledge quest and repaired sending Patty to Pisha.
Added a line for Skelter and deleted a tutorial answer for Ventrue.
Replaced wrong use-icons in Venture Tower and lower Giovanni levels.
Fixed Strauss dialogue about Gargoyle weakness and one quest state.
Plugged Ash introduction hole and Therese knowing ghost item riddle.
Restored a broken Vandal line and conditioned a response for Nines.
Fixed telling Damsel of the alliance and corrected feed loading tip.
Deleted icons of unopenable doors at Lotus Blossom and Luckee Star.
Fixed Mitnick's reward and corrected text on three inventory models.
Modified discipline options for Kerri and removed a line with Knox.
Changed Ji's superhero and Johnny's asshole lines to reflect gender.
Removed taxi driving you to Mercurio in the end game if he is dead.
Deleted imperfect threat to LaCroix and fixed three wrong xp titles.
Added conditions to Beckett's Assyrian dialogue and removed a loop.

v2.0
----
Removed the annoying sidetable in Gary's lair and hid two map holes.
Made crossbow bolts purchasable sooner and added a doll easter egg.
Provided baseball bat and tire iron to anyone skipping the tutorial.
Lessened MAC-10 kickback on firing with increasing firearms skills.
Made Empire clerk bisexual, responding to Seduction from either sex.
Corrected Hitman quest rewards and added peace-talk lines for both.

All dialogues matched to speech and fixed thoroughly by RobinHood70.
Repaired a lot of lines that were not audible to female characters.
Removed Empire key after use and continued standardizing many names.
Made Prince react to Persuasion for money when sending you to Ming.
Restored additional lines of Jack, Imalia, Ming-Xiao and the cabbie.
Fixed money bugs with Bill, Hatter, Heather, Misti and prostitutes.
Moved dance spot at club Confession because of the cross-zoom error.
Restored Ventrue specific Prince dialogue and more cut extra lines.
Removed an exploit with Copper and fixed Jeanette taking your knife.
Restored unused Nosferatu and Malkavian lines of Tseng and Wong Ho.
Fixed possibility of Beckett not talking on return from the Society.
Corrected bug caused by 1.9 corruption that broke Chinatown quests.
Restored feeding on rats that would not work for some people in 1.9.
Changed wrong status display for the power of pump 118a in warrens.
Fixed problems with morphine quest and more after angering Mercurio.
Cut exclamation of Nadia that was audible when she was not present.

v1.9
----
Let Ra blade cause more damage instead of not working faster attack.
Relocated Pearl of Dubai and cut pulltoy to Kilpatrick's bailbonds.
Put Obfuscate and lockpicking powerups in sewer and downtown havens.
Removed critical bum cutscene and illogical Pisha feeding cutscene.
Put unfinished dogs at Giovanni Mansion and fixed Mira dialogue bug.
Granted occult hacking powerup as reward for doing Mitnick's quest.
Placed two of the unused female raver models at the club Confession.

Made Grout's wife fully visible and repaired a Muddy quest shortcut.
Fixed a bug with Patty appearing in the alley although she is dead.
Replaced location labels of the missing sewermap with worldmap ones.
Made the Hallowbrook hotel's naming consistent throughout the game.
Resized unspectacular lower resolution fonts for better readability.
Made Hannah actually die at the time that she is supposed to do so.
Corrected the corrupted Intimidation font "W" at higher resolutions.
Fixed a quest bug with the Fu Syndicate elevator and an Isaac text.

v1.8
----
Restored female Sabbat and put three into the first Hallowbrook map.
Added the missing Dodge II manual to second Giovanni Mansion level.
Placed the Pearl of Dubai and the occult braid into the SM pawnshop.
Put the unused male asian nurse model into the Santa Monica clinic.
Created Justicar guards at Giovanni Mansion and fixed a synchro bug.

Continued adjusting location names by correcting bus and sewer maps.
Corrected a wrong dialogue option for female Malkavians with Nadia.
Made cemetery quest easier and fixed Romero raising female firearms.
Removed unused subdirectories on two of the Kamikazi Zen computers.
Fixed several dialogue errors regarding Beckett, Flayton and Hatter.
Repaired dialogue getting cut of in the Fu Syndicate for Nosferatu.
Fixed Carson's appartment key not being removed when it's been used.
Corrected formatting of a few haven pc emails and the Sin Bin note.

v1.7
----
Lessened the sway of zoomed weapons and balanced with magnification.
Replaced some male hunters at the Leopold Society with female ones.
Made Yukie give you the Ra blade instead of taking it from Chastity.
Restored original funny answers when not being able to read a tome.
Provided a xp for keeping Zhao alive and modified quest accordingly.
Restored original models for the low and high grade computer tomes.
Awarded a xp for killing Bruno Giovanni and changed log accordingly.

Fixed bug of Heather not appearing at the haven for female vampires.
Corrected wrong name of the cafe and other locations and map names.
Restored many mistyped intimidate options and some answers to Pisha.
Fixed feat conditions in Muddy bum dialogue and a missing variable.
Corrected bug that made it possible to get Ox's harvest quest twice.
Repaired wrong subtitles speaker names for Vandal and other people.

v1.6
----
Lowered lockpicking skill needed for chemical substances door to 10.
Made Model Citizen quest show failure directly after leaving Tawni.
Re-branded Uzi, Mac 10, Glock 17c, Ithaca and both Remington rifles.
Adjusted damage values of Steyr Aug, SWAT rifle and Ithaca shotgun.

All dialogues were spell checked for typos and more by Paul Moloney.
Several mistyped variables found could provide additional dialogue.
Corrected still not working Hitman quest fix and other related bugs.
Fixed variables in texts of Ash, Bertram, Boris, Venus and Mitnick.
Reconstructed lip-synchro for the misplaced Isaac text moved by Dan.
Prevented triggering the building scene before getting Muddy quest.
Fixed double option with wrong link in the dialogue file of LaCroix.
Renamed Blood Purge and spell checked every text besides subtitles.
Cleared up the log texts of the Muddy quest and Pishas occult quest.

v1.5
----
Awarded a xp for getting Imalia's magazine to compensate money loss.
Provided a humanity point for not telling Hannah that Paul is dead.
Lowered award for freeing Ash from the Society of Leopold to one xp.
Adjusted knockback ranges for McLusky, SWAT rifle and the shotguns.

Corrected some errors in Hitman quest log, dialogues and doll texts.
Fixed bugs in the dialogue files of Ash and Velvet for extra lines.
Corrected a bug that kept the Santa Monica haven active for Tremere.
Modified the dialogue files of Damsel and Isaac to fix bad options.
Fixed Hitman quest bug that showed failure when making them friends.

v1.4
----
Removed illogical placed flamethrower and Ra blade from Hallowbrook.
Made rifles and crossbows use single shots to fit reload animation.
Put flaming crossbow, torch and flamethrower at the Leopold Society.
Chastity will have the Ra blade and a crossbow can be found nearby.
Imalia's magazine quest is now also available after her Tawni quest.
Made CD quest available to all clans as Malkavian lines were there.
Vendors will sell crossbow bolts and Slater sells a crossbow itself.
Changed damage of blunt weapons to fist < arm < baton < bat < iron.

Barabus will not be in the Fu Syndicate anymore after you have left.
Repaired SWAT rifle crosshairs and set damage close to 'Jamie Sue'.
Fixed Tawni and friend noticing you before accepting Imalia's quest.

v1.3
----
After providing Romero with a sexy night he will give you his rifle.
Made Bach drop rifle or sword on defeat, may remove teleport light.
Provided two xp for freeing Ash from the Society of Leopold caverns.
The White Cloud doors in Chinatown are unlocked from the beginning.

Modified inventory texts of 'Jamie Sue', Bach's rifle and Steyr Aug.
Removed Dan's "Ginger Swan fix", because the quest was not updated.
Isaac-Tzimisce dialogue line will disappear after quest is complete.
Corrected some subtitles so the Hengeyokai surprise is not spoiled.
Changed lots of subtitles so not every thug is called a Sabbat thug.
Edited quest log texts of Necromantic to prevent misunderstandings.
Corrected Isaac dialogue options so you can't get his gift right on.
Changed the strange "untie" lines in the Johansen dialogue options.
Removed Yukies untakeble sword and changed the dialogue accordingly.
Modified some dialogue of Wong Ho in regard to a silver haired man.
Yukie will not appear before you visited the Temple to fit her talk.
Wong Ho and hostess will not be in the Red Dragon after he is gone.
The Hallowbrook Hotel cutscene will only happen if Heather is alive.

v1.2
-----
fixed an indentation error in warrens.py that was causing scripts to
stop working

v1.1
-----
included romero's dialogue file, so the fix from v1.0 stands a
better chance of working this time around

v1.0
-----
patch now automated (and merged with leopatch) -> undone
prince/beckett cutscene fix is back in
fixed a typo in beckett's dialogue that was breaking an auto-link
(thanks to doug thompson)
fixed beckett's dialogue trailing off as you're teleported into the
ventrue lobby
fixed romero locking up if you're a woman, you flirted with him and
completed the zombie quest
fixed imalia's newspaper from appearing when you fail the tawni
quest
fixed the society of leopold crash with style and grace (meaning all
clans should now transition unbugged to the correct landmark in la)
undid a previous mess i'd made of gary's poster quests - should work
as originally intended now

v0.9
-----
fixed beckett trying to increase your scholarship when it's already
at max (thanks to Executor for this and the similar fix in v0.8)
updated fix for society of leopold exit crash (see leopatch0.3.rar)

v0.8
-----
removed the prince/beckett cutscene fix until a reported bug is
confirmed/fixed
placed the sound file for a line of isaac's dialogue in the correct
directory (had been incorrect since v0.1)
fixed beckett trying to increase your inspection feat and failing -
now increases investigation instead

v0.7
-----
hunters won't spawn if the courier is behind the fast buck in
hollywood - should stop people being killed during this cutscene
the highlight for imalia's newspaper shouldn't appear when the
newspaper isn't there anymore
shouldn't be possible to get stuck in vv's dialogue so that you
can't take the chastity quest
if you get the quest log entry for the igor quest from venus, igor
should be there
the prince/beckett mini-cutscene/broken convo bug should be fixed
(i disabled the cutscene)
updated fix for society of leopold exit crash (see leopatch0.2.rar)

v0.6
-----
if you try to use the locked computer in warrens4 without the
keycard, the keycard is highlighted if your inspection feat was too
low to highlight it automatically
cleaned up brother kanker's dialogue - shouldn't get stuck in a loop
anymore
zygaena shouldn't be in the red dragon after you've killed him
anymore
shouldn't teleport to kingsway mansion after watching snuff film
with isaac
shouldn't be able to get stuck with vandal's dialogue so he thinks
you're on the replacing lily quest when you're not
if you've already read about rolf toten on the krimeputer when you
find the bail bond, you don't need to read about him again
if you've already read about virgil crumb on the krimeputer when you
get the driver's license, you don't need to read about him again
should no longer get a masquerade violation for convincing the
serial killer not to kill again
should now get xp for completing the replacing lily quest
relinked the xp award for finding lily's items to the experience
table
fixed a logic error in beckett's dialogue that resulted in "no valid
responses" when talking about disciplines

v0.5
-----
if you've already read about ginger swan when you talk to the
courier, you shouldn't need to go back and read again -> removed
bonus xp for completing warehouse quest without killing should now
be awarded even if you don't make it to beckett before the timer
runs out
fixed another incorrect gender reference in samantha's dialogue

v0.4
-----
should no longer be able to get both rewards for the hitman quest in
chinatown
bonus xp for completing warehouse quest without killing should be
awarded
isaac should now no longer refer to everyone as a toreador
gargoyle quest completion lines should now stop reappearing before
you've been to king's way, not just after
isaac should give everyone a gift for completing the king's way
quest
fixed some responses to samantha in hollywood that were referring to
the player as the incorrect gender

v0.3
-----
xp for killing bach and saving johansen in the leopold quest should
now be given
when intimidating vandal, you should now get the free bloodpack
fix for society of leopold exit crash (see leopatch0.1.rar)
added changelog.txt for those who want to know exactly what's been
altered -> removed

v0.2
-----
the computer in the nocturne theatre being hackable for mitnick's
quest before you've even met mitnick
mercurio giving morphine quest reward twice if you have morphine the
first time you meet him
skipping the tutorial now gives lockpicks, the .38 and two xp
food critic quest should now always give reward, only worked in v0.1
under very specific circumstances (if you've already completed this
quest, you'll notice it become unfinished in your log - go to your
haven and type "tomSetQuestFour()" to complete it and get the reward)
dialogue option from asylum blood donor showing up for the
confessions blood donor when playing as a female

v0.1
-----
lily's sire's license plate not showing up in quest log
mercurio not selling the swat rifle
food critic quest not giving a reward
serial killer quest failing when persuading him not to kill again
isaac's conversation not allowing anyone but toreadors to mention
the tzimisce
gargoyle quest completion lines constantly reappearing in isaac's
conversation
dialogue line showing up twice when venus gives you money
melee attacks doing zero damage when breaking obfuscate level 1 or 2
with an attack
being able to tell strauss you solved his gargoyle problem even if
you didn't know he had a gargoyle problem
gary's email quests for the posters sometimes not all appearing

Tessera might be a weirdo, but he doesn't include his weirdness in the patches, which makes me prefer the patches published by him. The fact that you don't see anything wrong with the addition of the Jeanette love making is bad enough.
 

almondblight

Arcane
Joined
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Tessera said:
Our goal was to fix the game and to free people from the monopoly that has been imposed upon them, for over two years, by Werner Spahl (Wesp) and his mods... Wesp wants us to yank our patch from sight, so that he can continue to posture himself as The One True God of VTMB.

The tyrant!
 

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