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Interview Pete Hines on Fallout 3

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NMA has posted a <a href=http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=35387>PC Zone UK article</a>, featuring Pete Hines, the PR legend, talking about Fallout 3:
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<blockquote>Bethesda's Pete Hines speaks out on the mixed emotions surrounding Fallout 3.
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"We've said this before and we'll say this again: not everybody is going to agree with the game we are making: it's a solid-gold lock," exclaims a tired and emotional Pete Hines when we ask him about the forthcoming Fallout 3. He's just spent a long day plugging the hugely anticipated Oblivion expansion Shivering Isles and the inevitable query about Bethesda's 'other' RPG has reared it's head. "Some people will like it, some people will hate it, and they don't even know what we're doing yet!"
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Few developers have been so honest in regard to a game's potential reception, but then again few developers have had to face a fanbase quite so rabid, rigid and (sad to say) repeatedly screwed over as those of the post- nuclear role-player. Hines, however, is insistant about how dedicated to the wastelands cause Bethesda truly are. "I have it on my laptop here, I play it on the road. We're all big fallout fans, we play Fallout, Fallout 2, we play the non-RPG ones, I mean, I play Fallout: Tactics, I played Brotherhood of Steel (the abysmal Xbox 'action' game) because I felt I had to give it a look. And I was sorry I did so.
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"We feel that we're doing Fallout 3 having done one and two, even though we didn't. Much like the Elder Scrolls, we look at what worked, we look at what didn't; we look at where we want to take it, how to move it forward and keep it relevant. But we also want to stay true to the stuff people remember and took to heart in Fallout, which was the kinds of quests you did, the choices that were laid before you, the way the game would play differently depending on how you were role-playing and the setting...That sort of stuff."
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You also shouldn't expect the lewdness of Fallout 2, as Hines reckons it got "a little too caught up in trying to be funny or controversial or whatever." Which is a shame as certain PCZONE staffers thought, choosing to be a low-paid fluffer at a post-apocaluptic porn studio, only to find the fluid exchange left them with a traditional RPG poisoning, the height of hilarity back in 1998. Whatever the case, the smart bets are for Fallout 3 to be a free-roaming, first-person action/RPG with more dialogue, violence and grit than the Elder Scrolls has ever seen.
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Unconfirmed rumour has it that the game will take place on the America's east coast, rather than the original's iconic west, while promotional posters suggest that the franchise's cheery combination of optimistic 1950's propaganda and arid, desolate solitude will remain firmly in place. And what with the only other hope for Fallout being an extremely unlikely MMO being crafted (possibly) by the remnants of what was once gaming giant Interplay, it's safe to say that a lot is riding on its success. Internet buzz, meanwhile, is suggesting an official unveiling at some point this summer, perhaps at the revamped E3.
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Hines, however seems to think it inevitable that no matter how happy bethesda are with their offering, there are bound to be murmurs of discontent from the more radiation-soaked parts of the Internet. "People will have to take it for what it is. If they like it, great, if they don't like it... Well some folks just aren't going to give it a chance out of the box. And you know what? That's your choice. If you don't want to give it a shot, there's nothing we can do about that..."</blockquote>Discuss.
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"I have it on my laptop here, I play it on the road. We're all big fallout fans, we play Fallout, Fallout 2, we play the non-RPG ones
Patrick Stewart.
we look at what worked, we look at what didn't; we look at where we want to take it, how to move it forward and keep it relevant. But we also want to stay true to the stuff people remember
Soil erosion.
first-person action/RPG with more dialogue, violence and grit than the Elder Scrolls has ever seen.
OLOLOLOL
 

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Ollie Williams on Fallout III:

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Thanks Ollie. Back to you, Pete.
 

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The prospect of critics giving FO3 demerits for being insufficiently hurr compared to FO2 excites my sense of tragedy. Critical punishment for Bethesda to allow any decision to be made with taste - it's perfect.
 

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"I have it on my laptop here, I play it on the road. We're all big fallout fans, we play Fallout, Fallout 2, we play the non-RPG ones, I mean, I play Fallout: Tactics, I played Brotherhood of Steel (the abysmal Xbox 'action' game) because I felt I had to give it a look. And I was sorry I did so.

Who the fuck cares if HE plays them. He isn't a designer or programmer. He's just a PR talking head.

Much like the Elder Scrolls, we look at what worked, we look at what didn't; we look at where we want to take it, how to move it forward and keep it relevant.

And we all know how that turned out. We can now safely say that if they took the same critical eye to Fallout as they did Morrowind, then FO3 is officially doomed.
 

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So, it's going to suck because there won't be enough adolescent giggling about porn? Fabulous. I thought 'tired and emotional' was universally a euphemism for 'drunk', but I guess not, here.
 

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The mutileveled irony is mind-boggling. I mean, the PC Zone writers actually imply that the porn bit in Fallout 2 was an example of bad taste, right?
 

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I mean, I play Fallout: Tactics, I played Brotherhood of Steel (the abysmal Xbox 'action' game) because I felt I had to give it a look. And I was sorry I did so.

I like how he said he was sorry he played Brotherhood of steel to try and reel in some easy votes from the Fallout crowd.
 

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I'm willing to believe him. Really, I am. Of course, the odds that he's doing the regular nothin' but a PR thang are quite high, even without Snoop's input, but fucking hell! Hope's all we got, man. If Pete says they're going to do their best to please all us hardcore Fallout homies with a genuine Fallout (Action) RPG experience I'm all for it. Go Pete!

Or we'll have your nuts in a plastic cup!
 

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Nothing really new here, except for the lack of lewdness bit. So, no boobs, no hookers, no johns?
 

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So the adult theme of the game will now be gone? Count me out... One thing I loved about the original FO and FO2 was the lack of kiddie crap, unlike virtually every D&D CRPG (except Planescape Torment) out there. I'm sure the Halo kids will love this one though, as this is practically a guarantee that it will be "streamlined" so that anyone can pick it up and play as well.
 

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"We've said this before and we'll say this again: not everybody is going to agree with the game we are making: it's a solid-gold lock," exclaims a tired and emotional Pete

RPGCodex: Making Pete Hines cranky so you don't have to
 

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I wish they would show it and get it over with already. We all know its going to be Oblivion with guns Get it over with so we can start bashing without guessing already.
 

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Fallout Tactics : Brotherhood of Steel was supa-awesome, guys!

Hey, FoT is compulsory for anyone developing a Fallout game. It effectively demonstrates how not to make a Fallout game, why it's a bad idea to give writing duties to the coprophiliac, and what happens to developers who make a lucklustre fallout title.

Anyway, I think I may have to post a translation of the interview when I get home from work so the English speakers out there can join the fun too.
 

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I just can't get myself to trust him. Every single word feels like a slimy tongue, trying to go as far up my ass as possible.
 

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Locue said:
I'm willing to believe him. Really, I am.

Sense motive check: Fail.

Uz0rnaem said:
I just can't get myself to trust him. Every single word feels like a slimy tongue, trying to go as far up my ass as possible.

Sense motive check: Success.

Anyway, at least he admits that this game is not for everyone and some will hate it. With Oblivion he claims that its the ultimate thing which cant be disliked.
 
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"First, for over seven years the United States has been occupying the lands of Islam in the holiest of places, the Arabian Peninsula, plundering its riches, dictating to its rulers, humiliating its people, terrorizing its neighbors, and turning its bases in the Peninsula into a spearhead through which to fight the neighboring Muslim peoples.
If some people have in the past argued about the fact of the occupation, all the people of the Peninsula have now acknowledged it. The best proof of this is the Americans' continuing aggression against the Iraqi people using the Peninsula as a staging post, even though all its rulers are against their territories being used to that end, but they are helpless.
Second, despite the great devastation inflicted on the Iraqi people by the crusader-Zionist alliance, and despite the huge number of those killed, which has exceeded 1 million... despite all this, the Americans are once again trying to repeat the horrific massacres, as though they are not content with the protracted blockade imposed after the ferocious war or the fragmentation and devastation.
So here they come to annihilate what is left of this people and to humiliate their Muslim neighbors.
Third, if the Americans' aims behind these wars are religious and economic, the aim is also to serve the Jews' petty state and divert attention from its occupation of Jerusalem and murder of Muslims there. The best proof of this is their eagerness to destroy Iraq, the strongest neighboring Arab state, and their endeavor to fragment all the states of the region such as Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Sudan into paper statelets and through their disunion and weakness to guarantee Israel's survival and the continuation of the brutal crusade occupation of the Peninsula."

- Pete Hines, on Shivering Isles
 
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Interview said:
we also want to stay true to the stuff people remember and took to heart in Fallout, which was the kinds of quests you did, the choices that were laid before you, the way the game would play differently depending on how you were role-playing and the setting...That sort of stuff.

He was going well up until "That sort of stuff." What little credibility he had was just shot in the back of the head after that. This is the guy trying to get us into the Hype and explaining why should we hate not this new Fallout in advance, and the best thing he can say is: There is this cool... thingy... stuff... that made Fallout great, you know?

Interview said:
You also shouldn't expect the lewdness of Fallout 2, as Hines reckons it got "a little too caught up in trying to be funny or controversial or whatever."

There he is right, to my surprise. Maybe he has been reading the last decade of Fallout's posts spread all over the 'net while preparing for the interview? I bet so. He basicly said: There are all those... thingies... stuff... that people doesn't like about Fallout 2 that we are not going to do, you know?

Interview said:
"People will have to take it for what it is. If they like it, great, if they don't like it... Well some folks just aren't going to give it a chance out of the box. And you know what? That's your choice. If you don't want to give it a shot, there's nothing we can do about that..."

Because most people who hated this other game did not even played it. They saw the box and said "There be dumbed-down dragons." Then saw the media and said "See? I told you."

Section8 said:
Hey, FoT is compulsory for anyone developing a Fallout game. It effectively demonstrates how not to make a Fallout game, why it's a bad idea to give writing duties to the coprophiliac, and what happens to developers who make a lucklustre fallout title.

They will learn from it, indeed.

They will say "What was not popular enought?" instead of "What was not Fallout enought?"

Time to bury fallout and go on to other things.
 

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The Father of Lies feels no emotion. He only uses the illusion to add to his potency.
 

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I hope he gets stuck on hard drugs.
 

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