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Anime Ys series
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ravioli ravioli
dinosaurs and a forest loli
cool world building in ys8 is, island is pretty. they could have went further with Dana like adding time traveling puzzles or something though.
VO is good
translation, didn't notice anything terrible except strange bee quest
no crashes.
dragon that had both bleed and burn status attacks was
dinosaurs and a forest loli
cool world building in ys8 is, island is pretty. they could have went further with Dana like adding time traveling puzzles or something though.
VO is good
translation, didn't notice anything terrible except strange bee quest
no crashes.
dragon that had both bleed and burn status attacks was
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Ys 8: Trails of the Ys
romance with mother of 6 included.
still I think it's one of the better games they made compared to--
idk, compared to.
One thing I miss is ability to craft swords with different types of damage (piercing/crushing). It helped when you wanted to have a particular party member.
I also like how they implemented more classic Ys form changes later in the game into it's own easter egg level.
Also I appreciate that I don't hate writing and characters. Like Ricotta. Usually anime children are either 1) all knowing wise sages 2) degenerate scantily clad super lolis from other dimensions 3) annoying brats.
Ricotta actually does not completely fall into any category; she acts more like an actual child by parroting adults and just being hyper active, even cries once. So closer to Pippi Longstocking than annoying.
Sahad is your basic anime big dude but when he talks about his fisherman life he's not terrible.
Hummel is your basic know him better softy.
Dana has rich backstory, but has no actual personality I think. She's just cute giggling waifu for now.
Laxia is just retarded.
Dudes and gals you spend time building your awesome base are all alright though. I'd rather take some of them in my party than main cast. Like the barbarian grandma.
The plot of the game is... long. And (as always) features an advanced ancient civilization and probably killing another god in the end. But the island is detailed and game makes you feel like it builds up to something so it's fun to press forward.
So on the scale of ClicheAnime to>>>Degenerate, I would rate this... moderately cliche anime, with below threatening levels of degenerate. A good distraction so far.
romance with mother of 6 included.
still I think it's one of the better games they made compared to--
idk, compared to.
One thing I miss is ability to craft swords with different types of damage (piercing/crushing). It helped when you wanted to have a particular party member.
also lol Dana being half-dinosaur and smallest of her kind, that's a new one when it comes to waifu material
I also like how they implemented more classic Ys form changes later in the game into it's own easter egg level.
Also I appreciate that I don't hate writing and characters. Like Ricotta. Usually anime children are either 1) all knowing wise sages 2) degenerate scantily clad super lolis from other dimensions 3) annoying brats.
Ricotta actually does not completely fall into any category; she acts more like an actual child by parroting adults and just being hyper active, even cries once. So closer to Pippi Longstocking than annoying.
Sahad is your basic anime big dude but when he talks about his fisherman life he's not terrible.
Hummel is your basic know him better softy.
Dana has rich backstory, but has no actual personality I think. She's just cute giggling waifu for now.
Laxia is just retarded.
Dudes and gals you spend time building your awesome base are all alright though. I'd rather take some of them in my party than main cast. Like the barbarian grandma.
The plot of the game is... long. And (as always) features an advanced ancient civilization and probably killing another god in the end. But the island is detailed and game makes you feel like it builds up to something so it's fun to press forward.
So on the scale of ClicheAnime to>>>Degenerate, I would rate this... moderately cliche anime, with below threatening levels of degenerate. A good distraction so far.
And if you gotta ask, I would rate some of Pillars of Eternity 2 characters as above threat level, already slightly disturbingly degenerate.
Bosses that require Dana to change forms to beat 
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Ys made me think about dis shit again https://www.neogaf.com/threads/is-i...-killing-god-why.789041/page-5#post-105409217
I was wondering if the running trope had a beginning. I think most popular games with a trope were created in 1990-1992. And then japanese, methodological as they are, were reforging same plot over and over because it worked. Together with obligatory sand and mechanical city levels.
But what truly began it, and what could predate it, I don't know.
One thing I do know however, is that judging by new games coming, it works as well as killing big ass dragon in wrpg.
In the beginning, Ys was an exception cause it just had an evil wizard. But eventually it fell into same mold, with it's bosses representing some ancient tradition because thou must etc.
One thing about ys 8 is how it feels like there is one designer dude who wanted stuff to be reasonable, but couldn't for the 30-50 hours requirement. This is felt through item upgrade path strongly.
You begin with Adol's old 3 gem sword from previous game which he then loses. On the beach he founds some junk rusty sword, then, in some caven he finds a shortsword. After you establish smithy, you can upgrade that sword and then reforge into a longsword. Then it's more or less same shit until you meet those super unique enemies and you need special ore to defeat them. You go to great lengths into awesome places to aquire it, and reforge your weapons into ancient weapons you seen in dreams and it's all awesome
and then you upgrade them 5 more times into weapons with names like durandal hyperion etc.
I guess it might be a nod to Cleria from original games just as your obligatory blue hared amnesiac maiden but come on game, you did so well for a while!
I think I can also say that it's one of the easiest Ys'es so far
1) once again you have party
2) bajillion items
3) only hardest difficulty somehow address farming and items
but it's all not as important as
4) many bosses are big things and often even big dudes in armor (dark souls, pls)
and
5) instead of "figuring out" the boss made of rolling balls of energy in flame around invisible pillar with sinking sand..... you probably can defeat any one of them simply by mashing dodge button. the Flashguard/Flashdodge are ultra powerful. Provided you "got" the correct timing and can repeat it on some of bosses attacks, you get MASSIVE opportunity window (even bigger with special item), invulnerability, etc. and kick the boss bad, as you run around in your personal bullet time bubble unharmed. And then there are items that give you things like massive Evade boosts which feel like cheating.
And the worst part is it doesn't matter where you roll. You can dodge right into enemy attack animation, but since you pressed button in the right time, you're great.
Mind you on nightmare they do hit like three times harder and inferno I don't even want to try it, and some bosses still turn battlefield into lazer show with a volcano erupting on top while strafing randomly under invisibility, but the system is there and since there is an obvious lack of "puzzle" bosses, if you are good at pressing rmb you will win this I think. Especially against enemies with 360 Spin For Win attacks TM and other attacks that seem to not follow a particular design or thought but you can just evade them by pressing evade, eh.
I guess for this one I would recommend Nightmare+ only and using Bottles only, or just trying to make yourself use only say 2 bottles per battle.
Previous games had bosses that were hard for me even on like normal/veteran+.
And don't get me started on DLC packages and all that shit. Fishing skill+ amulet is the only you are allowed to grab. And Adol original armor of course.
At the same time, it might also be one of the prettiest ones I played. Archeozoic chasm? wooooo
Lake inside giant mushroom? woo
The summit of a mountain with a look on whole island? ooooh
and it's all more or less in the same style, you know it's same island.
I was wondering if the running trope had a beginning. I think most popular games with a trope were created in 1990-1992. And then japanese, methodological as they are, were reforging same plot over and over because it worked. Together with obligatory sand and mechanical city levels.
But what truly began it, and what could predate it, I don't know.
One thing I do know however, is that judging by new games coming, it works as well as killing big ass dragon in wrpg.
In the beginning, Ys was an exception cause it just had an evil wizard. But eventually it fell into same mold, with it's bosses representing some ancient tradition because thou must etc.
One thing about ys 8 is how it feels like there is one designer dude who wanted stuff to be reasonable, but couldn't for the 30-50 hours requirement. This is felt through item upgrade path strongly.
You begin with Adol's old 3 gem sword from previous game which he then loses. On the beach he founds some junk rusty sword, then, in some caven he finds a shortsword. After you establish smithy, you can upgrade that sword and then reforge into a longsword. Then it's more or less same shit until you meet those super unique enemies and you need special ore to defeat them. You go to great lengths into awesome places to aquire it, and reforge your weapons into ancient weapons you seen in dreams and it's all awesome
and then you upgrade them 5 more times into weapons with names like durandal hyperion etc.
I guess it might be a nod to Cleria from original games just as your obligatory blue hared amnesiac maiden but come on game, you did so well for a while!
I think I can also say that it's one of the easiest Ys'es so far
1) once again you have party
2) bajillion items
3) only hardest difficulty somehow address farming and items
but it's all not as important as
4) many bosses are big things and often even big dudes in armor (dark souls, pls)
and
5) instead of "figuring out" the boss made of rolling balls of energy in flame around invisible pillar with sinking sand..... you probably can defeat any one of them simply by mashing dodge button. the Flashguard/Flashdodge are ultra powerful. Provided you "got" the correct timing and can repeat it on some of bosses attacks, you get MASSIVE opportunity window (even bigger with special item), invulnerability, etc. and kick the boss bad, as you run around in your personal bullet time bubble unharmed. And then there are items that give you things like massive Evade boosts which feel like cheating.
And the worst part is it doesn't matter where you roll. You can dodge right into enemy attack animation, but since you pressed button in the right time, you're great.
Mind you on nightmare they do hit like three times harder and inferno I don't even want to try it, and some bosses still turn battlefield into lazer show with a volcano erupting on top while strafing randomly under invisibility, but the system is there and since there is an obvious lack of "puzzle" bosses, if you are good at pressing rmb you will win this I think. Especially against enemies with 360 Spin For Win attacks TM and other attacks that seem to not follow a particular design or thought but you can just evade them by pressing evade, eh.
I guess for this one I would recommend Nightmare+ only and using Bottles only, or just trying to make yourself use only say 2 bottles per battle.
Previous games had bosses that were hard for me even on like normal/veteran+.
And don't get me started on DLC packages and all that shit. Fishing skill+ amulet is the only you are allowed to grab. And Adol original armor of course.
At the same time, it might also be one of the prettiest ones I played. Archeozoic chasm? wooooo
Lake inside giant mushroom? woo
The summit of a mountain with a look on whole island? ooooh
and it's all more or less in the same style, you know it's same island.
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Damned Registrations
Furry Weeaboo Nazi Nihilist
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So... she's 12 feet tall?
It's a funny bug (or rather, they just didn't think this through). The fish is then shown later and it's even bigger, can probably eat 3 lolis like this.
Finished the game. Got only 1 crash but cause I alt-tabbed, don't alt tab much. There were probably some minor glitches and some text issues but game is a straightforward jrpg so I didn't care.
God is not enough now for jrpgs, they went for
lulz
Good story parts:
Bad story:
They scrap the jrpg bad part and make villain of the game some political person trying to grab power/save face because/for/after
& give everyone normal looks and clothing and it would have been trails material
I mean, no wonder
I rate this
out of 3 not final not secret not secret again not final secret bosses,
for some waifus including Cohen the Barbaran grandma and
extra for feels in some parts of the Story
Can't wait for next part where they kill
not god
not satan
not beginning of life
but
an end
of beginning
of all end
of all life
of death!
Best quote from the game about nature of JRPG writing:
- Well seems like we can destroy the whole world
- Oh shit
- Well, we can't stop now! THATS WHAT MAKES US HUMAN!
Finished the game. Got only 1 crash but cause I alt-tabbed, don't alt tab much. There were probably some minor glitches and some text issues but game is a straightforward jrpg so I didn't care.
God is not enough now for jrpgs, they went for
EVOLUTION
Good story parts:
- All that castaways and building base
- Some of Dana story made me very sad especially the last parts about her home
- Some of Dana story made me very sad especially the last parts about her home
Bad story:
- LETS KILL EVOLUTION
They scrap the jrpg bad part and make villain of the game some political person trying to grab power/save face because/for/after
meteor fucks up everything
I mean, no wonder
Dana's people got extinct, they wear bikinis even when it's nuclear winter
I rate this
out of 3 not final not secret not secret again not final secret bosses, for some waifus including Cohen the Barbaran grandma and extra for feels in some parts of the StoryCan't wait for next part where they kill
not god
not satan
not beginning of life
but
an end
of beginning
of all end
of all life
of death!
Best quote from the game about nature of JRPG writing:
- Well seems like we can destroy the whole world
- Oh shit
- Well, we can't stop now! THATS WHAT MAKES US HUMAN!
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Archibald
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I don't know if it was an exception. First two Ys games kinda were one game split into two and thats why I think they are usually packed together now. In terms of overall structure Dark Fact feels more like a mid point boss (something that we would get on consoles, for example, at the end of Disc 1 if games had two CDs) than actual main antagonist. And from that point (maybe I'm blanking on something now) most of the bosses have been, in one way or another, godlike.
Evil mages were somewhat normal for that era, I remember Lunar having one as well. What's cool about them is they often had at least some backstory and acted as characters in the game. Fact mocking you because you didn't use correct weapons was the best.
I believe the consensus is that difficulty plummeted after Felghana and never recovered.
Still remember that fucking ice dragon.
But, at least in 8, the lead waifu
even if she doesn't wear a pretty dress.
ffs Ys, you had it right all the time, and now waifus wear some random mmo shit. they're sylvanas now or something? go away with your metal bikinis.
gimme back my pretty things.
also Adol must wear armor.
and he should also shut up.
Still remember that fucking ice dragon.
But, at least in 8, the lead waifu
doesn't just die/vanish which leads to more bittersweet ending.
even if totally retarded.
even if totally retarded.
GODDESS OF EVOLUTION!! man just a sound of that
God of Evolution
God of Evolution
even if she doesn't wear a pretty dress.
ffs Ys, you had it right all the time, and now waifus wear some random mmo shit. they're sylvanas now or something? go away with your metal bikinis.
gimme back my pretty things.
also Adol must wear armor.
and he should also shut up.
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Celceta's a good game but it was painfully easy on normal, you get a shit ton of healing items (can get 99 of each) and the kicker was that i didn't even use healing items until the latter part of the game. I'll play it on hard on the PC version.
Can't recall anything relating to Ys 1/2 but you get to visit the village that Gaius and his brother (from Naphistim) are from.
Yes, and it's the canonical Ys IV game (the other two were made by third parties).
Here's more info on the other Ys IV games: http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/ys-iv-dawn-of-ys-mask-of-the-sun/
Great Deceiver
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I'm playing through Ys Origins right now using an Xbox One gamepad.
Two minor things bugged me, first the inability to reconfigure inputs from the config tool and force feedback (rumble) not working.
Two helpful guides that fixed both issues for me:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/207350/discussions/0/1470841715960141077/
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/1/541907867790900215/
Since most (if not all) of these Ys games share the same engine, I suppose these fixes also apply to the others. Hopefully they can help other people too.
Two minor things bugged me, first the inability to reconfigure inputs from the config tool and force feedback (rumble) not working.
Two helpful guides that fixed both issues for me:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/207350/discussions/0/1470841715960141077/
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/1/541907867790900215/
Since most (if not all) of these Ys games share the same engine, I suppose these fixes also apply to the others. Hopefully they can help other people too.
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