Tacticular Cancer: We'll have your balls

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WR - General Chit-Chatter/Tidbits

Discussion in 'What Remains' started by Surf Solar, Mar 31, 2011.

  1. EGgender: ⚧ Nullified

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    I want to believe . . .
     
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  2. General Maxsongender: ⚧ Arcane

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    You certainly have at least graphical talent bro. I hope you finalize something and we (and the world) get to play it. Maybe it starts your successful career, if you're interested in that, because you get noticed for you talent.
     
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  3. Jim the Dinosaurgender: ⚧ Arcane

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    where's my demo?

     
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  4. Make America Great Again The Brazilian Slaughtergender: ⚧ Arcane

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    I would ask but Surf Solar hasn't been answering my pms for months, even the ones unrelated to the demo. I think he doesn't think I'm a bro anymore. Maguou.


    I blame liberals.
     
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  5. Surf Solargender: ⚧ cannot into womynz

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    Dont worry. Game still sleeps on my HD. But I want time to invest in the bugreports etc. Right now, I barely have time for the codex, its when I just want to read some shit.
    Unfortunately I don't know when my situation remedies.
     
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  6. rusianogender: ⚧ Novice

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    Hey, Surf how are you? I hope you remember that we wait for this epic game same as Van Buren on FOnline Engine. :) With your game there will be 2 singleplayer projects. ;)
     
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  7. Make America Great Again Ninjerkgender: ⚧ Arcane

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    The ultimate lurk.
     
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  8. agrisgender: ⚧ Arcane Patron

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    I hope you're still working on this Surf Solar, shit looked promising when you were posting screens and asking questions on NMA back on '09/'10
     
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  9. EGgender: ⚧ Nullified

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  10. Surf Solargender: ⚧ cannot into womynz

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    Unless Bethesda Lawyers suddenly stopped caring and changed their minds, I can't release anything sadly.
    I did work on changing all the fallout specific graphics, sounds etc. but I guess you can imagine my motivation is pretty low having to change all that stuff I love. That's why work stopped to a crawl and there are no new updates.
     
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  11. agrisgender: ⚧ Arcane Patron

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    Wait, what? What happened?
     
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  12. Grim Monkgender: ⚧ Arcane

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    Seconding agris

    Surf Solar
    Some clarification would be nice...
     
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  13. Surf Solargender: ⚧ cannot into womynz

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    I got a C&D letter from Bethesda last year not to release the game as long as there is anything fallout related in it.
    That this is a fanproject and would have been released for free anyway apparently didn't matter.
     
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  14. Grim Monkgender: ⚧ Arcane

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    Oh...
    Okay then...

    Thanks for giving my "Glittering Gem" another polish Bethesda.
     
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  15. Klariongender: ⚧ Arcane

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    there's hundreds of mods based on Fallout 1 and 2 out there, never heard anyone getting sued for that. Why are you scared of being sued by Bethesda?
     
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  16. GarfunkeLgender: ⚧ Racism Expert

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    Because he had actual Fallout art assets in the game. That's the difference.
     
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  17. agrisgender: ⚧ Arcane Patron

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    That is some shit.
    Surf Solar did you consider going the BGtutu / BWP route and just writing a snippet of install script that extracts the art you need from a user's install of F1/2, avoiding the need to distribute copyrighted material? I think there are command line unpack / extract / repack utilities for the fallout .dat files, this is how killap massages Fallout 2 for his patches.
     
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  18. Make America Great Again Ninjerkgender: ⚧ Arcane

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    Does Fonline have a license to do what they've been doing with Fallout assets? Are they developing it in a country where they can't be touched by IP laws?
     
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    This has always been my concern about blatantly Fallout-influenced projects. If it's not the graphics, they could latch on to similarities in setting. Who knows?
     
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  20. Kaucukovnikgender: ⚧ Arbiter

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    I hate the whole concept of creative content being owned by people who don't give a fuck about it. Unfortunately, the industry is set up in a way that if you don't play along, you financially cripple yourself big time, more than most can handle.

    And creators who are aware of this problematic are very serious about keeping all rights for themselves.
    One example would be Frank Zappa. Fellow musicians often criticized him for being a fascist in the studio/on tours, but they didn't realize he was backing it all with his own money, rather than letting a publisher decide what happens with the music. He carried all the weight, so he was the one making demands - and the demands were of artistic nature, not commercial.

    Kickstarters are not really a solution, you just replace investors by backers who expect you to be their bitch and fulfill every wish, no matter how inconsistent the result would be. Who are you to refuse a $100 backer who wants to be a dragon?
     
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  21. Make America Great Again Ninjerkgender: ⚧ Arcane

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    I don't know that individual backers have that power until one of them inevitably sues a KS.
     
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  22. rusianogender: ⚧ Novice

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    Lol, so why Bethesda doesn't say anything aganist FOnline servers? :P You don't use Fallout engine, you use FOnline engine which is created by cvet & his devs so why the bethsitta f*ck to you??! :(
     
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  23. Jaesungender: ⚧ Fabulous Moderator Patron

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    IIRC FOnline was given specific permission by Interplay (at the time Interplay owned the Fallout IP). That is why they are fine.
     
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  24. shihonagegender: ⚧ You see: shelter. Patron

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    As long as they wear a sign on their sleeve and stay in public view at all times
     
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  25. Make America Great Again The Brazilian Slaughtergender: ⚧ Arcane

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    How come Van Buren project never got hit with a C&D, then? Seems sorta unfair to ole Surf Solar.
     
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