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World Cup of Decline(25)

Discussion in 'Codex Playground' started by KoolNoodles, Jun 14, 2018 at 1:10 AM.

  1. KoolNoodles Arcane

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    LET'S PLAY THE BEAUTIFUL GAME!

    Here is what I'm thinking, in celebration of the World Cup:

    1) Disciples, teams of 2(or 3? Debating...)
    2) Teams from players' same country/region/mix of castoffs(my sad country isn't even in the WC :cry:) if possible. It might not be, everyone's eastern european right? One Italian?
    3) Wars can be started early, BUT, no nation can be eliminated or have their cap besieged in the first two years(Group stages). After that it's elimination time.
    4)Disciple teams must have similar "style" or themed nations. You know, flashy Brazil, determined Germany, and godawful Saudi Arabia. That sorta thing.
    5)More than one starting province, probably 2-3.

    So a team of blessed sacreds. A team of decent recruit/mage nations, a team of awake Pretenders/Disciple, a team of garbage. It will work itself out, but try and make it FUN AND INTERESTING. I won't hold anyone's feet to the fire.


    It would be cool if we had a referee nation, but alas.

    Thrones = goals, so only 1 pointers.
    Cataclysm = penalty shots. :lol:

    I'd like a big wide open map, but haven't really looked. Just thought of this after a long day with the WC tomorrow. Could be fun! Any extra ideas welcome, but ideally we'd start it up in the next week or so.

    Oh, and 90 minute turns, of course. :positive:
     
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  2. Dayyālu Arcane

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    Let us bury Decline24 thanks to Microsoft, then ;_;

    (I deleted the Dec24 Thread, it was born under a sad star and it will be reborn anew when the time is right)

    I'm in, but let's hope we can get enough players. NationGen? Even if it's crappy as fuck in its current version?
     
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  4. Infinitum Learned

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    I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE, HEATHEN

    Not sure if I'm in the mood for another novelty game tbh. Disciples could be fun though, how about simply limiting the teams to ones with shared mythological inspirations (eg Fomoria/Tir, Ermor/Arco, 'Heim/'Heim etc)?
     
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  5. Dayyālu Arcane

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    :lol::lol::lol::lol:


    tbh, I agree. Themes, Disciples, and we're good. Elves with Elves, Giants with Giants, flying shits with bat flying shits, C'tis with Sceleria, etc...
     
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  6. KoolNoodles Arcane

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    That works for me. These should be obvious to the people who regularly play around here.

    Let's just do teams of two, easier that way, and we can make the game smaller if needs be.

    I'll head up one of them, of course.

    Do we want EA? Generally more fun, but LA could be as well.
     
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  7. mondblut Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Hmm... I wanna nationgen :D
     
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  8. KoolNoodles Arcane

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    It seems so buggy though, in that other game one guy's sacred archers don't even shoot any arrows.
     
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  9. Dayyālu Arcane

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    It's seriously not fun.

    This ain't Dom4 nationgen with crazy shit and stuff. Seriously, it seems like someone went in and removed all the fun.
     
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  10. mondblut Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    This dude can't agree.
     
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  11. KoolNoodles Arcane

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    If somebody desperately wants nationgen, they can run the generator 100x, then test every nation that looks good to make sure their units actually work/aren't stupid, then present the lineup here, and then I might consider it.

    Don't want to do that work? Then no nationgen.
     
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  12. Grimwulf Arcane Patron Vatnik

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    If it's a natgen game, I'm in.

    Drunk. Friday. Might change my mind tomorro
     
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  13. Infinitum Learned

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    LA seems very limited due to low number of nations and the fact most of them have consolidated. EA or MA should both work, EA has more variety but MA has quite the few branching successor nations. We might want to preemptively ban Brazil Mictlan/Xibalba should we go EA, just saying. Land nations only?

    EDIT: Eh, I'm bored. Let's count out the obvious candidates:

    EA
    Team Greek: Arcocephale/Mekone
    Team Mexico: Mictlan/Xibalba
    Team Albion: Fomoria/Tir na Og
    Team Norse: Vanheim/Helheim/Niefelheim
    Team India: Kailasa/Lanka
    Team SemiteSumerianPhoenicians: Hinnom/Berytos

    MA
    Team Greek: Arco/Phaeacia/Phlegra
    Team Rome: Sceleria/Pythium
    Team Albion: Eriu/Man
    Team Mexico: Mictlan/Xibalba
    Team Birdmen: Caelum/Nazca
    Team Horsemen: Pangea/Asphodel
    Team Norse: Vanheim/Jotunheim/Vanarus

    LA
    Team Greek: Arcocephale/Pangea
    Team Zoroastrian: Ragha/Abysia (or Caelum, but let's not kid ourselves on what people would pick)
    Team Norse: Midgard/Utgard
    Team Mexico Frogmen: Mictlan/Xibalba (and Atlantis; gl with those temp scales tho)

    MA does seem the most interesting imo.
     
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  14. Dayyālu Arcane

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    LA has the Atlantean Vengeance Organization tho (LA Atlantis, LA Xibalba and LA Mictlan). But I agree, MA is the best option for baseline.

    Elephantmen are the only crazy sacreds you get, and rarely. Trust me, I have ran dozens of attempts for Dec24, most of the results were shit. Let's see if I can get something better this time.

    Let me doubt the connection between Friday and the drunk state.
     
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  15. mondblut Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    I raise you flying elephantmen :obviously:
     
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  16. KoolNoodles Arcane

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    Well Grimwulf has to be in this, but Dom5 natgen?

    Like I said, if we can get some good shit. Ugghhh. Ok I'll run some through the meat grinder tonight. Not like I'm doing anything anyways.

    :despair:
     
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  17. mondblut Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Let's roll elephantmen nations for everyone.
     
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  18. Dayyālu Arcane

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    I'm legit scared to read any American comics, the SJW infestation runs too deep

    if KoolNoodles fails, I'll try my hand again at generating a batch.
     
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  19. Grimwulf Arcane Patron Vatnik

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    Hrmpf, seems like natgen is indeed broken. Let's play vanilla then.
     
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  20. Infinitum Learned

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    So.. MA it is then? Throwing my hat in the ring as a disciple to whoever (are we randomizing teams or having picks or what)?
     
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  21. KoolNoodles Arcane

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    Nice, if a bit on the small side? Can the start positions be modded to have the teams adjacent?
     
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  23. KoolNoodles Arcane

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    It's just about right, though crowded, for four teams. Teams adjacent?
     
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  24. Infinitum Learned

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    Teammates adjacent/close by to eachother wth no intervening players, that is. Unless disciple games do that automatically already?
     
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  25. KoolNoodles Arcane

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    Will do that automatically as long as clustered starts is enabled. I'm making some Natgen stuff today after fiddling with parameters(tried to disable bows, but that doesn't seem to be working). If I get some good ones I'll post a link.

    Edit: So I made about ~150-200 nations, trying all ages, eliminating shit races, mandating magic diversity, and other tweaks etc., and......there were maybe four that looked cool and would actually be good. And half of those involved elephant men.

    I'd say about 100 of the nations had some combination of worthless mages, sacred rangers or sacred generic light/heavy infantry, and bad unit/scales mismatches. HOW IS THAT FUN.

    Why is the new natgen so bad. I'll do a last effort of a couple hundred and pick out 10-12 that might be cool.

    Also tried to mandate elephant men for every nation, and it just got stuck in an infinite loop. Of course.
     
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