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Incline Which part of the Gothic series is the best? (Poll)

The beste Gothic game is...


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sullynathan

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Maybe it's just you. I played Witcher 2 with both controller and kb+m, the game was made for the former and so was the UI.
I'm talking about Twitcher 3. Combat is p. different from 2.

And the UI is much, much better with KBM, one key press opens any screens, item tooltips on mouse over without needing to navigate one by one and wait for stupid delay for stats to show up at the bottom.
well nevermind.
 

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Gothic 3, as it's the only one I could play for any length of time without falling asleep. It's Oblivion with stats, characters, no(?) level scaling, and some semblance of plot. If that's your thing then fine but I've had more fun watching paint dry. Risen was better, and I that bored me sufficiently that I never completed it.

Edit: I thought Two Worlds 2, an obvious Gothic/Risen clone, was much, much worse.
 

hivemind

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People who can't appreciate native Gothic controls are actually mentally ill imo.
 
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Behead those who complain about Gothic's controls. Then, stick their head on a pike.
 

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The only thing that is noticeably missing in Gothic 2 is someone to get even with from the beginning of the game, like Bullitt from the first.
 
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Gothic 2 is much better without the expansion

In which way? I never played it without expansion, but isn't difficulty the only real difference in the main game? And I remember the game had a reputation of being far too easy when it originally appeared.
 

ScubaV

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A good related question is why hasn't anyone else made a game similar to the Gothics? Or, if they have, please point them out to me. Obviously they weren't blockbusters, but it seems like the sales would be good enough to keep a small to mid-size developer like Piranha Bytes afloat. Perhaps the cost of modern graphics for a 3rd person (A)RPG is too high?
 

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There's been varying degrees of "meh" clones, but one rather good game that was much earlier was Outcast. Scifi and aliens, and uses voxels so it's different on first glance but the overall experience has some similarities.

Other ones would be games like Pirates of the Caribbean, Venetica, and Two Worlds... of the top of my head.
 

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Takes 5 minutes to get used to the controls. Damn mouse babbys.

I tried Gothic 2 for several hours. That camera is garbage. The way the main character moves is garbage. The melee-combat-with-no-canceling is garbage. The archery is garbage. The keyboard-only inventory is garbage. The non-keyboard-shortcut-utilizing dialogue window is garbage. I thought Morrowind was janky, but that was playable enough to complete. This game is unplayable cargo cult Eurotrash. Fucking Deutschland.
 

ERYFKRAD

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Takes 5 minutes to get used to the controls. Damn mouse babbys.

I tried Gothic 2 for several hours. That camera is garbage. The way the main character moves is garbage. The melee-combat-with-no-canceling is garbage. The archery is garbage. The keyboard-only inventory is garbage. The non-keyboard-shortcut-utilizing dialogue window is garbage. I thought Morrowind was janky, but that was playable enough to complete. This game is unplayable cargo cult Eurotrash. Fucking Deutschland.
lolno
 

Roguey

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Gothic 2's camera gives me literal motion sickness. I guess in Deutschland they just grit and bear it, as that is their nature.

Edit: as Kurt Cobain would say, I'm not the only one

http://forums.stardock.com/34626/page/1/

Gothic 2 was bad as well. Lots of people loved that game. I think it's great judging from the reviews, but the perspective from which the game is played just made me horribly sick. I couldn't stand it. Everytime I turn my character around, I felt like I was going to spin off my chair.

Medal of Honor, The Suffering and as far as I remember, any game played from first person viewage had that same effect on me. Although some are worst than others. I got used to Morrowind, but not Gothic 2.

http://www.amazon.com/Gothic-II-PC/product-reviews/B000069D75?pageNumber=6
I've played dozens of PC and console graphical RPGs, and this one has the absolute worst graphical interface I've ever seen. I bought it because of the good reviews, but shortly after installing , I quit struggling with the controls that aren't logical, don't make good use of the mouse and create a feeling of motion sickness from the bobbing screen views and uninstalled it in disgust. What a waste. Doesn't matter how great the content is if you can't play it effectively.
 
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Man, I'm a huge sucker for Gothic 1. A lot of my affection for this game probably comes from the fact that I played it a lot as a kid (in fact, it's one of the first cRPGs I've ever played!), so I have huuuge nostalgia for this game, its atmosphere, characters, storyline, exploration, everything - even the stupid control scheme and inventory managment don't bother me as much as they probably should. Even today, hearing the soundtrack gives me goosebumps. I will agree that Gothic 2 is probably the better game overall (except, of course, in the atmosphere and story department. I mean, we went from penal colony mystery to "Oi, mate, there be some dragons, go kill them, lol"), but muh feels demand that I vote for G1.

Yeah, p. much the same thing.
 

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The best part of the gothic series was the russian cover of the first one:

206139-gothic-windows-front-cover.jpg


Naked cunts used as footstools, we need moar of these.
 

mondblut

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I wonder how a game where in the setting women are used as trade currency would fare nowadays. :M

Well, Dominions does pretty fine :smug:

Speaking of which, somebody should notify fullmacintosh about a game where female virgins are routinely kidnapped, sold for gold and gems, then horrifically slaughtered to summon demons. One twat of his will make Illwinter millionaries overnight.
 

Murk

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The gothic games are so good that they make scrubs physically sick. Truly, the best of games :martini:
 
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Lilura

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I'd love to be a fly on the wall of their mother's basement when some Elder Scrolls faggot plays Gothic for the first time.
 

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Takes 5 minutes to get used to the controls. Damn mouse babbys.

I tried Gothic 2 for several hours. That camera is garbage. The way the main character moves is garbage. The melee-combat-with-no-canceling is garbage. The archery is garbage. The keyboard-only inventory is garbage. The non-keyboard-shortcut-utilizing dialogue window is garbage. I thought Morrowind was janky, but that was playable enough to complete. This game is unplayable cargo cult Eurotrash. Fucking Deutschland.

l2p
 

Doktor Best

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I tried Gothic 2 for several hours. That camera is garbage. The way the main character moves is garbage. The melee-combat-with-no-canceling is garbage. The archery is garbage. The keyboard-only inventory is garbage. The non-keyboard-shortcut-utilizing dialogue window is garbage. I thought Morrowind was janky, but that was playable enough to complete. This game is unplayable cargo cult Eurotrash. Fucking Deutschland.

Maybe what you say is true, OR maybe you are just a handicapped person. Regarding the thousands of gothic fans who grew used to the controls id say the latter is true.

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Roguey

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Maybe what you say is true, OR maybe you are just a handicapped person. Regarding the thousands of gothic fans who grew used to the controls id say the latter is true.

Gesendet von meinem GT-I9000 mit Tapatalk 2

Motion sickness simulators are only playable to krauts and those as sadomasochistic as the average kraut.
 

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