BG was somewhat tolerable, and BG did not claim to be a "resurrection" of a dearly missed game that I loved.
what?
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Which game made you give up on Bioware?
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BG was somewhat tolerable, and BG did not claim to be a "resurrection" of a dearly missed game that I loved.
what?
IncendiaryDevice
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One rtwp is tolerable but another isn't. Cool, glad we sorted that out. Oh, a new point, you bought the hype.
if you consumed your time, you consumed your money...
Ending of ME3 i guess.
pippin
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To be fair, BG's rtwp was different from DAO's. DAO's much more "modern" while BG's was aiming to be something among the lines of an extremely simplified version of DND born out of an attempt to make a strategy game.
Phisto
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I enjoyed even JE so terrible animations and "is this human dialogue?" I can ignore if the game has other strengths, but DA2 was just so terrible. Every single choice in that dialogue wheel made me cringe and feel like I'm playing some sort of fan-fiction fantasy. The "press R" to win situation and repetitive maps didn't help either.
Falksi
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I'm curious, did any of you who voted for DA:2 actually give the woeful DA:I a chance? Or had DA:2 offended you enough so that you didn't even touch it?
pippin
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Many people here actually played DAI. However, DAI's hype died pretty soon after release and it was kinda embarassing when Dorito Pope gave them the GOTY award. I suspect DA4 will barely make waves, if it does at all.
moon knight
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I did. It was even worse. Higher production value than DA 2, but all for a pseudo MMO with a main quest totally detached from the many areas of the game.
Wayward Son
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Mine was DA:I. Terrible, shitty game that failed at everything it attempted. Before this I had only played the Mass Effects, and I liked those despite all their faults (though I was like 12 when I first got into them, maybe says something about their intended demographic). However, even for a Bethestard Biowhore like me, this had shit gameplay, shit writing, shit story, shit exploration and boring everything. And I have a high tolerance for shit, but this is the literal worst waste of my money I've ever made hands down. And I've spent a total of probably close to two hundred and fifty USD on Oblivion and Skyrim. This is a shitfully boring and banal practice in why Bioware sucks anymore and should be shut down by EA.
Puukko
Arcane
I knew they were decline around the time ME3 came out, which I then proceeded to never finish. I quite liked ME2 and DA:O was alright if generic.
Iznaliu
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I have a feeling that DA4 will make FO4 and ME:A look like masterpieces.
wyes gull
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I don't think there was ever a Bioware game I really liked but ME2 was what made it evident that there was never going to be one. ME1 was pretty enjoyable, warts and all. 2 was a nonsensical shooting gallery written by a 14 year old who didn't get to play the first one. Consolitis and EA-itis were really fucking evident. Shame. There's a lack of medium-big budget space RPGs (sci-fi in general) and ME had potential.
Same here Comrade but I did not even bothered to borrow DAI; the Codex reviews and play-through by RK47 kun were enough.
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In my heart, I gave up after Dragon Age 2. I played Mass Effect 3 only because of my PlayStation Plus subscription. I bought a PS4 and got the only rpg available at the time. That game was Dragon Age: Inquisition. I never bothered with Mass Effect: Andromeda after having played Mass Effect 3.
I played Jade Empire to completion after Dragon Age 2 came out, but you could see that they were going for more action based games in that.
I played Jade Empire to completion after Dragon Age 2 came out, but you could see that they were going for more action based games in that.
Lambach
Arcane
ME2 was "Well, this is pretty alarming", DA2 was the definitive "Fuck this shit, I'm out".
Mark.L.Joy
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ME2 still had some charm but I knew that it was going to get worse from then on.
Telengard
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I have never liked any of Bioware's games. Yes, even the Codexian favorites - in all their cheesy, dumb glory. However, there was a time not too long ago when I tried every rpg out there, just to kind of check back in with the industry and see what people were doing.
The fact that Bioware games always, always, always tell the exact same cheesy melodramatic story that they staff with a seemingly random selection of the same cheesy stock characters from the same small pool of stock characters (which characters they were always too lazy to modify out of stock), that always bored the hell out of me. Yet more personally offensive was Bioware's stock level design, where they rapidly fill space by sticking to a large grid, and then throwing in a minimalist amount of the decorative furnishings drawn from the same small stock of furnishings - leading to such results as giant warehouses with zero goods stored in them, but to give any sort of visual interest to what is essentially a giant bare room, they do floor cut-outs with single square floor pieces that angle down at 45 degrees. So a Bioware warehouse - warehouses being a thing made to maximize storage space for goods, keep in mind - has these strange giant holes in the floor, with 45 degree angles floor bits running jaggedly around the sides of the holes, leading to almost 0 level floor space available for, you know, the actual storage of goods. Even Bioware's outside and cave level designs are made up of the same flat, simple squares, leading to very unorganic outside spaces. However, they make their outdoor walls and ceiling invisible and surround it all with a pretty and animated skybox, so it all seems ornately designed - like the reverse of a Hollywood Old West town, where they only built the front of the buildings. So, effectively what I was doing was checking in to see how Bioware had updated their pretty skyboxes, since they never ever change their story, characters, or level design.
But I kept checking in, out of a sense of obligation to the past. Wasn't much on finishing one of their games, often didn't make it past the first hour, but still checked in. Plus they were always good for finding unintentional sexual imagery memes. And so it went, until the day I picked up ME and DA:O out of the bargain bin. Doing those two games back-to-back put into sharp relief everything stated above, plus since Bioware uses the same voice actors who are essentially saying the same type of canned lines, made it at times very difficult to remember which of their games I was playing. You know, always rambling on about their hamster or their tree fetish, or whatever. Which all annoyed the fuck out of me so bad that I have never touched a Bioware game since. It was really both of those games together what did me in, but ME went in the computer drive first, so, by default, since it went in last, DA:O is the title that officially was the last Bioware game I will ever play.
The fact that Bioware games always, always, always tell the exact same cheesy melodramatic story that they staff with a seemingly random selection of the same cheesy stock characters from the same small pool of stock characters (which characters they were always too lazy to modify out of stock), that always bored the hell out of me. Yet more personally offensive was Bioware's stock level design, where they rapidly fill space by sticking to a large grid, and then throwing in a minimalist amount of the decorative furnishings drawn from the same small stock of furnishings - leading to such results as giant warehouses with zero goods stored in them, but to give any sort of visual interest to what is essentially a giant bare room, they do floor cut-outs with single square floor pieces that angle down at 45 degrees. So a Bioware warehouse - warehouses being a thing made to maximize storage space for goods, keep in mind - has these strange giant holes in the floor, with 45 degree angles floor bits running jaggedly around the sides of the holes, leading to almost 0 level floor space available for, you know, the actual storage of goods. Even Bioware's outside and cave level designs are made up of the same flat, simple squares, leading to very unorganic outside spaces. However, they make their outdoor walls and ceiling invisible and surround it all with a pretty and animated skybox, so it all seems ornately designed - like the reverse of a Hollywood Old West town, where they only built the front of the buildings. So, effectively what I was doing was checking in to see how Bioware had updated their pretty skyboxes, since they never ever change their story, characters, or level design.
But I kept checking in, out of a sense of obligation to the past. Wasn't much on finishing one of their games, often didn't make it past the first hour, but still checked in. Plus they were always good for finding unintentional sexual imagery memes. And so it went, until the day I picked up ME and DA:O out of the bargain bin. Doing those two games back-to-back put into sharp relief everything stated above, plus since Bioware uses the same voice actors who are essentially saying the same type of canned lines, made it at times very difficult to remember which of their games I was playing. You know, always rambling on about their hamster or their tree fetish, or whatever. Which all annoyed the fuck out of me so bad that I have never touched a Bioware game since. It was really both of those games together what did me in, but ME went in the computer drive first, so, by default, since it went in last, DA:O is the title that officially was the last Bioware game I will ever play.
Iznaliu
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I don't see why anyone would bother with that given the mess it turned out to be.
Pay 60$? 
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Hmmm... yes pay.
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