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[The Game Analists]

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[Toxic Masculinity]

Pity post. What a fucking pretentious user name.

 

[Jools]

So it's been almost a year for Pillars of Eternity. It's at 8% so far.

I'm sure the fact that the game is shit, the combat boring and the plot quite uninspired has nothing to do with that.

Torment has 13 fights, many of which dont need to be fought, allegedly. Some can just be fucked around with etc. And it's shortish?

I so far refrained from reading much about the game, because it's some kind of policy I have. Reading up too much before release will both spoil the game for me, and create expectations, which are usually not met. Well, you just managed to kill what little anticipation I was feeling for ToN, and it was at an all-time low already. Hell I hope it's better than that, I even backed it. Sigh.

So do you think the numbers will be high?

Dunno. What was that 8% figure based on? Steam?

 

[Jimmious]

13 battles? In the whole game? Is this confirmed or a random guess of some sort?

 

[Crooked Bee]

Most non-action "old school" RPGs have lousy completion rates. This one's gonna be shorter than D:OS, W2 or PoE, though, so I'd guess 20% or so.

 

[Bonerbill]

I'm sure the fact that the game is shit, the combat boring and the plot quite uninspired has nothing to do with that.

I love how you PoE haters jump to these faggot ass conclusions. You may want to check out the standard completion rate for other CRPGs like Divinity Original Sin.

Most people just don't finish their games.

 

[Bloodwyn]

It will be even less than PoE; because WL2 and PoE will lure in more people to play Torment, who will be
surprised that they are exspected to read more than two coherent sentences.

 

[Jools]

I'm sure the fact that the game is shit, the combat boring and the plot quite uninspired has nothing to do with that.

I love how you PoE haters jump to these faggot ass conclusions. You may want to check out the standard completion rate for other CRPGs like Divinity Original Sin.

Most people just don't finish their games.

It really seems you're confusing conclusions for causes. But hey, edge on, and by all means, please mention more fairly insignificant games to support your argument.

 

[Fairfax]

I suspect the "conflicts", the extremely wordy dialogue and perhaps even the turn-based combat will turn a lot of casuals off. I also think it'll run like shit and have little VA.
Overall it depends on how many casuals will fall for the PST hype and purchase a game that's (if it's anything like PST) the very opposite of what they enjoy.

I expect casuals to play for more than 2 hours, which prevents refunds, until they reach a point where they decide they don't like it and/or will wait for the Director's Closer's cut.* Still, it was always meant to be shorter than a game like PoE, so the completion rate should be slightly better.
A year on? I'd say ~10-15% tops, unless it's extremely short.

 

[Jimmious]

13 battles? In the whole game? Is this confirmed or a random guess of some sort?

Read the fucking design document yuou fucking mouthbreathing mongoloid retard shit whore asshole

Nope, I won't.

 

[ArchAngel]

13 battles? In the whole game? Is this confirmed or a random guess of some sort?

13 crisis but there will be battles outside of crisis.

 

[Jimmious]

13 battles? In the whole game? Is this confirmed or a random guess of some sort?

13 crisis but there will be battles outside of crisis.

Oh OK, that makes sense. Thx

 

[Nekot-The-Brave]

I'm one of the 0.13% of players who have TCS on Pillars. I beat the shit out of that game just so that I'd never have to look at its boring ass again, ever. I suspect the reason why Pillars is only at 8% completion is because it's a batshit boring banal ass game. But, this isn't about Pillars, this is about Torment.

I think Torment will get about a 30% (+/-~5%) completion rate. Why? Because it's interesting. Something that PoE lacked. I think that every crisis is going to at least have a decent enough design that it's not going to be shit boring like every single PoE encounter. It's going to go beyond 'generic fantasy land' and may actually have something to pull us into the game. This game also has a pretty good ruleset and background already created for it and they are working with the person who created it.

 

[veevoir]

0% cause it will be delayed by a year or so once "constructive feedback" from beta pours in.

 

[ArchAngel]

After seeing the start a bit I think very little number will finish it, too much pointless reading for modern crowd.
Actually the percentage will be opposite to number of sales. More sales = less % of people will finish it.

 

[Ovplain]

20% sounds reasonable.

 

[SwiftCrack]

I haven't even played Pillars much because I'm waiting for the entire game to be done (expansions, and maybe even a re-release enhanced edition or something).

I just started Wasteland 2 after the DC came out too.

I wonder if I'll put Torment on hold.

 

[kwanzabot]

aren't you that moron who wanted to make a series of retrospectives on dragon age?


i voted 75% btw



btw how is it possible this game only has 13 fights O.o

 

[Prime Junta]

Not gonna have a high completion rate. It requires reading and paying attention and has unintended consequences and stuff.

(Depends on how long it is though. If the beta is 40% of the content, it's not gonna be a very big game. Could easily be something you can finish in a weekend, in which case the numbers will be better.)

 

[---]

Lol, is that percentage a conjecture, or they said that the full game will be 50h long, and then that the beta is 10h long and actually covers 40% of the game?

 

[Excidium II]

0% cause it will be delayed by a year or so once "constructive feedback" from beta pours in.

With what money lol

 

[kwanzabot]

aren't you that moron who wanted to make a series of retrospectives on dragon age?


i voted 75% btw



btw how is it possible this game only has 13 fights O.o

That's not very nice, man.

maybe i would be nicer if you made those retrospectives



..i..

 

[l3loodAngel]

I'm sure the fact that the game is shit, the combat boring and the plot quite uninspired has nothing to do with that.

I love how you PoE haters jump to these faggot ass conclusions. You may want to check out the standard completion rate for other CRPGs like Divinity Original Sin.

Most people just don't finish their games.

DOS was every bit as boring as POE. By early mid game the paint watched me dry... Couldn't finish any of those 2 games.

I actually believe that companies should stop hiring bullshit designers and start hiring encounter/combat (system) designers as this area is incredibly lacking in new RPGs. Throwing around few mobs for shits and giggles will not get people interested in the game. I believe that it is the main reasong why people don't finish newer games, but replay older games time and time again. I also believe that the reason for this is that the 1990 game designers had PnP knowledge or were a fans of it before getting their game industry jobs and that knowledge translate into better combat design and encounters. They actually understood what they were doing. Therefore, people actually finished the games they made. Nowadays, ADHD and rimming management is sufficient to land a gaming industry job. For this reason alone I will not buy a single RPG from a dev team that does not play PnP or similar games as results will always disappoint, because lack of experiance and knowledge translates into terrible ideas.

 

[l3loodAngel]

okay

once again though

bro

The majority of a game's customers don't finish games. The Asscrood developers were blown away and literally threw a party over 50% completion rate for ACII.

Theres a difference between 50% and 8% or even 20%.

 

[Llama-Yak Hybrid]

Below 5%.

The game follows flawed principles, it will be simply bad.