Wasteland Wasteland 2 Pre-Release Discussion Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Roguey]

Josh Sawyer is a huge Skyrim fan.

Skyrim is a great operant conditioning chamber, beloved by many posters of the Codex.

 

[Oesophagus]

Anyway, the point isn't to denigrate the gods we all worship despite their flaws, but rather that I can never take ANYTHING meaningful away from their stamps of approval until I see the actual product.

Yup, I'll wait for the demo untill I throw myself into the circlejerk

 

[Lancehead]

As far as I know, it's never actually been confirmed. I shot Colin McComb a question about it on his Formspring.

In general, we'll be handling reputation on a location by location basis. If you're an enemy to the Red Scorpion Militia, they'll remember this and deal with you appropriately. Your actions in other parts of the wasteland will find echoes in specific locations, but we're not going to track capital-R reputation as such. People will deal with you on an individual basis, though your actions will certainly precede you.

Keep in mind that widespread communication is sketchy in Wasteland 2, so people in distant locales won't necessarily know about some of your activities anyway.

 

[Infinitron]

http://www.formspring.me/CMcComb/q/418101498040317510

I don't doubt that Wasteland 2 will have lots of text in it overall, but actually what I was referring to was the length of individual "pieces" of dialogue. Ie, the size of a single dialog window.

Generally we try to be concise, but some people just like to talk and talk. And talk. And talk and talk. Let me put it this way: it will be rare to have huge walls of text.

 

[Surf Solar]

Game is shit, I like walls of texts.

 

[General Maxson]

Game is shit, I like walls of texts.

Hope you're trolling... o_O

Oh man, I want the gameplay vid already. Hope we'll get to see it next week and that it will be lenghty... I'm certain if it's good and "magical" that I'll watch it at least 10 times. :D

 

[Roguey]

http://www.formspring.me/CMcComb/q/418101498040317510

I don't doubt that Wasteland 2 will have lots of text in it overall, but actually what I was referring to was the length of individual "pieces" of dialogue. Ie, the size of a single dialog window.

Generally we try to be concise, but some people just like to talk and talk. And talk. And talk and talk. Let me put it this way: it will be rare to have huge walls of text.

Finally, some good news.

 

[Kalin]

Depends really, if we are talking huge bricks of text like those in Inquisitor which contain nothing but excessively long speeches, then yes, good riddance indeed, but then there are also games like Planescape: Torment where the text does not simply convey discourse but also provide detailed descriptions of occurrences and character reactions. Personally, I really enjoy the latter, and I feel it would be a shame if they would opt to forego such a superior means of story-telling simply because modern gamers cannot into immersion through reading.

 

[Roguey]

Those are pointless details I don't care about.

 

[General Maxson]

Depends really, if we are talking huge bricks of text like those in Inquisitor which contain nothing but excessively long speeches, then yes, good riddance indeed, but then there are also games like Planescape: Torment where the text does not simply convey discourse but also provide detailed descriptions of occurrences and character reactions. Personally, I really enjoy the latter, and I feel it would be a shame if they would opt to forego such a superior means of story-telling simply because modern gamers cannot into immersion through reading.

I don't think this will be a game for modern gamers...

I want good descriptions when you "examine" something or enter a new room/area. Like in Fallouts.

 

[Azrael the cat]

Those are pointless details I don't care about.

Item descriptions, character reactions, Adam's apples, noone cares about those details around here.

 

[Kalin]

Depends really, if we are talking huge bricks of text like those in Inquisitor which contain nothing but excessively long speeches, then yes, good riddance indeed, but then there are also games like Planescape: Torment where the text does not simply convey discourse but also provide detailed descriptions of occurrences and character reactions. Personally, I really enjoy the latter, and I feel it would be a shame if they would opt to forego such a superior means of story-telling simply because modern gamers cannot into immersion through reading.

I don't think this will be a game for modern gamers...

I want good descriptions when you "examine" something or enter a new room/area. Like in Fallouts.

Those were nice, I agree, though the two aren't mutually exclusive. Ideally, I would like to see a healthy dose of both.

 

[Roguey]

Those are pointless details I don't care about.

Item descriptions, character reactions, Adam's apples, noone cares about those details around here.

Descriptions are fine when they're separate from dialogue. When the two are combined they just slow down gameplay. Fallout didn't need/use detailed descriptions of what a character was doing as he/she was speaking.

 

[General Maxson]

Those are pointless details I don't care about.

Item descriptions, character reactions, Adam's apples, noone cares about those details around here.

Descriptions are fine when they're separate from dialogue. When the two are combined they just slow down gameplay. Fallout didn't need/use detailed descriptions of what a character was doing as he/she was speaking.

Since W2 will not have talking heads, I'd like some descriptions even when engaging in conversation with a particular individual, like is the case when Rangers encounter Fat Freddy or Faran Brygo in W1...

 

[Azrael the cat]

Those are pointless details I don't care about.

Item descriptions, character reactions, Adam's apples, noone cares about those details around here.

Descriptions are fine when they're separate from dialogue. When the two are combined they just slow down gameplay. Fallout didn't need/use detailed descriptions of what a character was doing as he/she was speaking.

Well, I can see that noone here disagrees with me re Adam's apples at least.

 

[OSK]

noone

Stop that!

 

[Jaesun]

Chris Keenan ‏@rangerkeenan
At this moment, I am recording a video that may or may not be the#Wasteland2 gameplay video. Hint...it is.

 

[Infinitron]

Hopefully they'll put up the update tomorrow.

 

[hoverdog]

PREPARE YOUR ANUSES

 

[~RAGING BONER~]

Anus lubed up and ready to go!

 

[imweasel]

Gimme that Brian Fargo goodness!

 

[General Maxson]

Man I hope we'll see something really good, cause so far I'm not extremely overjoyed with how things have been going. Not rage inducing, but somehow it was all just meh, didn't make me thing wow, this looks awesome, can't wait etc...

Hoping tomorrow that will change!

 

[Kosmonaut]

Waiting for the disappointment tomorrow.

 

[hiver]

Colin McComb​

via Formspring​

Will Wasteland 2 have a factional or regional reputation system? I think many people have assumed that it will but I don't recall seeing it actually confirmed.


In general, we'll be handling reputation on a location by location basis. If you're an enemy to the Red Scorpion Militia, they'll remember this and deal with you appropriately. Your actions in other parts of the wasteland will find echoes in specific locations, but we're not going to track capital-R reputation as such. People will deal with you on an individual basis, though your actions will certainly precede you.

Keep in mind that widespread communication is sketchy in Wasteland 2, so people in distant locales won't necessarily know about some of your activities anyway.

 

[Excidium]

Keep in mind that widespread communication is sketchy in Wasteland 2, so people in distant locales won't necessarily know about some of your activities anyway.