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Yeah, I see what you mean. I'd definitely take another oldschool rpg, but something that combined the two would truly be CRISPY AS FUCK!!!!

The donations have considerably slowed down. Fargo needs something new to show.

Yeah, he'll do another video. I'm sticking to 2.6m though. Roughly 70% of double fine. Don't forget that there will be a big push on the last day.

What I'm after, is whether his heart really is in the right place. I want greater confidence in my investment, and that's why I'd like those questions clarified.

Now don't get me wrong, I trust him enough to have shelled out $250 so far... and even if the game eventually bombs, it will hopefully still inspire confidence in MCA (or other veterans) to get another kickstart going. I'm hoping that it can establish a norm for kickstarter budgets, that devs will know exactly what to expect, and that it will be in the area of 50,000+ pledges averaging $40-50 each. That alone would be worth it.

Sorry, but X series is boring as fuck and tedious. There are Russian space shooters released regularly but they reek of cheapness and unresponsive controls and simplicity. Is it really that hard to copy Freespace or Tie Fighter?

Volition should have been allowed to make another Freespace game by THQ. Everyone that made the originals is still there and Egosoft has proven that you can make money with space sim games and a small budget. The idiots at THQ should have greenlighted that instead of persevering with Red Faction. It's ironic that both games lost THQ a lot of money when a Freespace 3 could have been made for a fraction of the cost and probably sold as well as an X game.

Well he did say "from the market perspective". Unless stated in black and white by him, I genuinely believe he'd wanted to make something like this all along, but was dictated by the reality of financial pressures. That whole article was mostly technical (him providing feedback more from a businessman's POV) and less relevant to his passion towards his job; we do, however, see a lot more of the (hopefully) genuine Fargo in his latest Kickstarter updates, so that definitely gives me more hope, even though that's not factually very telling of anything at all at this point.

Hope. The Codex and other oldfags thrive on hope (and hate), and that's why we have the DFA and now W2.

What a coincidence that you should bring up Sacrifice. I let a few of my newfag friends try it a few years ago - and these are people who only started gaming post-2000 - and they actually loved it. I mean, damn. Sacrifice had fuck all in marketing, but it was such a well-made, charming game.

And is he wrong? If all you want is make money, then moving into console - especially before there was huge competition - would have seemed like a good idea. He didn't say "Why, PC gaming is dead and sucked anyway. I wish I had fulfilled my secret dream and made the first cover-based console shooter."

Fargo was there when Fallout and Planescape came out. 2/3 of the holy trinity for fucks sake. Probably not a coincidence. Fargo's specialty is finding talent and managing a successful rpg. He's probably the best there is at what he does...

I don't share the optimism that even if W2 were to bomb (no sales and the donors hate it) it'd help with further kickstarter projects (eg. Obsidian with a TB RPG). People'd be disappointed and less likely to fund another game after being burned the first time.
IMHO, Obsidian's best chance at their own project (if they ever decide to do one) is shortly before W2 is released while hype is high and after people have regenerated some funds.
Or if W2 turns out as good as we hope, that might really spark a new era. But I doubt that Obsidian will try anything before W2 ships and so it probably stands and falls with W2's success (or lack thereof).

Obsidian will try ks shortly after south park release. This is pretty fucking obvious.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Obsidian will run their kickstarter long before it is apparent if Wasteland 2 will be a success or failure. That is assuming Obsidian doesn't go bankrupt first...

It's up to Feargus Urquheart if they go with kickstarter. Avellone has expressed a high interest but sadly he's not in charge.

I fucking loved that game

Both Sacrifice and Freespace were very good and glorious. Freespace, nothing like it anywhere.
Ofcourse with the mod for enhancing graphics its one of the best games you can play generally.

Shame that something like Sacrifice hasnt seen further sequels. Its still very good.

http://wasteland.inxile-entertainment.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=248&start=350#p8763

Fight the good fight, geezer.

Yesssss, old school.

http://wasteland.falloutwiki.com/Wasteland_2_FAQ

Saw this is apparently coming out in a few days, not sure if good though xD:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-03-16-ea-sanctioned-wing-commander-saga-project-release-date

Trailer:

There needs to be a coup at Obsidian. Feargus is the problem as I see it. He still seems to think he's in charge of BIS when they could do no wrong and is too proud to accept that the real glory days are gone. Rather than finding a niche and accepting to be a middle level developer like Larian or PB, he seems to have delusions of Obsidian mixing it with the major players on their level, something for which they aren't equipped for. Instead of making less ambitious but solid titles of their own that cater for the truer RPG crowd, he's happy to whore off Obsidian to any big publisher in order to feast off the table scraps, so for a small time at least, he can feel that he's one of the big boys. AP was the only thing they churned out themselves and it was beset by problems all the way through. Seems that Feargus is shit at managing his own studio too at the moment.

I don't hold out much hope of Obsidian going Kickstarter. For Feargus it would be humiliating to scratch around like this when he could be begging EA to make a Mass Effect spinoff instead.

New interview w/Fargo up at Gamebanshee. Pretty good one, though not all that much new information. Just spreading the word I guess.
http://www.gamebanshee.com/interviews/107335-wasteland-2-interview.html

It looks like it's 50k daily. Maybe they will get over 2mil. Maybe after people get their checks they will donate more.

I read the interview and he mentions that inspiration for combat will probably be Fallout 1, 2 and Tactics. Why no love for Jagged Alliance 2? While Fallout's combat is okay, and I would be satisfied if it was like that, wouldn't it be better if it was more like Jagged Alliance 2 or a hybrid between the two? Jagged Alliance 2 has awesome turn based combat.

Well, General hop in into forums and spread the love for JA. I mean to do the same.

The main inspiration coming from Fallout 1, 2 and Tactics is not bad. It's not ideal but it's not bad by any measure either. I would love to have JA2 combat too, but the people saying that JA2 combat is too much have a point. The point is that having JA2 combat would put the focus squarely on combat at the expense of exploration, C&C etc. In order to balance combat with exploration, the combat needs to be somewhat simpler than the combat in JA2. Now, it's up to inXile to find that perfect balance, and where that perfect balance sits between Fallout Tactics and JA2.

Feargus has managed to keep Obsidian afloat despite them making several games that were critical and commercial failures, and without any certain income stream - only what they can squeeze out of the publishers. The guy obviously has some idea of how to manage a company for the long term.

JA2 should be the benchmark for all turn based games at this point. That game came out a long time ago, and I don't see any reason why a modern RPG developer can't produce a turn based combat system that rivals JA2.

If they can't then that is pretty sad.

JA2 isn't some sort of master programming that can never be matched again.

ToEE's combat was really good, the game was utterly unfinished and unpolished, but the combat system would have set a new benchmark if the game was actually finished.

It just seems crazy to me that hoping that a developer can rival a game made 10+ years ago is too much to ask for.