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Discussion in 'RPG Codex News & Content Comments' started by Jaesun, Jun 30, 2012.

  1. Sukeban Cho Scholar

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    Girls are not guys. We are not like we are because guys force us. We are like we are because, you know, we are like that.

    There is a certain pressure to conform to social expectations, sure, but that's true for both girls and guys.

    Those girls who want to be men? Go for it, I say, either if you just want to identify with their gender roles or grow a penis. It's their choice. However don't try to force us normal girls we are the product of a thousand years of oppression and shit, and that we should instead enjoy growing a penis too.

    I don't know the proper words in english for this, but according to those transexuals I know there are two kinds of them:

    1. Those who identify with the social or natural roles of the other gender.

    2. Those who go all the way and want to grow/ungrow extra bits.

    I.E: If you are a guy who want to be a girl, then you are a standard transexual. If you are a guy who identifies himself with girls and wants to express himself like a girl, take the roles in society that a girl would usually take, etc, then you are an emotional transexual. Or something like that.

    You should ask one of the locals about it, it is quite probable I misunderstood something along the way.



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  2. Black Prophet

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    Your biggest flaw.
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  3. communard Educated

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    It's nothing exciting. I was big into political activism when I was younger. Being a dirty pinko I off course spent an inordinate amount of time with feminists of various denominations and I've been a member of several groups with some sort of feminist agenda. Shit, I've lectured school classes on gender issues. Being a part of this milieu really soured me towards the majority of the feminist movement. I guess I'm still a feminist but I'm kinda bitter about the whole thing. Black Cat is giving me flashbacks of a different context but I really don't wanna get into that.
  4. Oriebam Formerly M4AE1BR0-something

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    Trying to be more like men isn't the same as trying to be men, do you admit that was a emotional reaction

    this is the third time I see this kind of thing coming from you, it could be a concidence or tinfoilhattery of course, but you should know that's not supposed to be happening... at least I don't think so

    neither do I actually

    according to the codex trannies, if I'm not remembering things selectively, the issue is "biological", they are born with fucked up brains and they actually believe they're women when they're men, which fucks them up and one of the only ways to lessen the fuckening is to try to be more like a woman, functionally

    tag them if you want

    it makes sense, there are all sorts of weirdos but to be sure of that(and the numbers, which could be relevant, up to you really) one would need statistics or some shit


    I don't know what to say
  5. Grimlorn Savant

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    No they're not.
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  6. Sukeban Cho Scholar

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    Please, do tell me more about how you would prefer to date and mate your fellow Bros. o_O



    I'm writing a little bit every night! But I have to balance it with my need to finish grinding for my Atrox Carrier before I have to go back to school, otherwise I'm not ever getting it and thus my Fed characters will be forced to be cruiser captains instead. Do you want to guilty of me never having an Atrox Carrier and having to spend eternity as a beam bitch and a mobile hospital? Well, do you? :(



    Oriebam

    I did just check wikipedia and...


    But "transexual" actually refers only to the physical form, so I guess I did pick the wrong english word after all.



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  7. Oriebam Formerly M4AE1BR0-something

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    Yes they are, are you familiar with the terms "blowjob" and "bukkake"?



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  8. Grimlorn Savant

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    Bangmaid?
  9. Black Prophet

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    Why would I do that? I ain't gay, though I would be if it were up to me :obviously:

    Men, even if dumb, are not dumb bitches and we actually have a sense of humour!

    I envy Jaesun:oops:
  10. Oriebam Formerly M4AE1BR0-something

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    yes, the other thing you mentioned sounds more like some (other?) sort of disorder or fetish kind of thing, like crossdressers




    p. cool that the forum notifies you of tags that were edited in
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  12. Awor Szurkrarz Arcane

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    I prefer androgynous gendered women.
  13. Black Prophet

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    Oh, like asari?:troll:
  14. Awor Szurkrarz Arcane

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    I don't know what asari is. And when it comes to sex, I prefer womanly bodies with a full set of secondary sexual characteristics.
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    I can't get a Societal Stockholm Syndrome sufferer to agree that her captors don't have her best interests in mind, I'm not qualified for that at all. So why bother? That's why I chose not to engage you in this thread until you directly addressed me. :P

    Sure I'm ad homming it up, but here we have a girl who starves herself to near-death in an attempt to achieve some warped body type trying to say that the objectification of women isn't harmful. It's like a lung cancer patient trying to say that cigarettes are just fine while coughing up one of those diseased lungs.
    They're not fully-realized characters of their own. How disturbing it is that every female character in Torment is either a prostitute, obsessed with TNO, or some incidental npc.

    At least Chris eventually saw the error of his ways and stopped being problematic. I guess you can continue to remain in denial as long as the person actually doing the writing isn't shitty anymore.

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  16. Sukeban Cho Scholar

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    You are projecting.

    I am a extremely superficial fashionista. I had become pretty good at professional make up artist techniques before starting highschool, and a great deal of my life is studying fashion and beautiful, glamorous girls so I can learn what it is about their looks, personality, characteristics, etc, that makes them so awesome so I can reproduce it on myself by means of butchering my own personality and both starving and working the fuck out of my body. I never denied that. Actually, I -embrace- it as my identity. I am utterly happy being so.

    You are assuming this issue is related to gender politics, though, while providing no evidence about it. From the exact same known facts you could argue I objetified myself because I enjoy being an object, as long as such object is target of enough male desire and female envy. Which is, actually, much closer to the truth.

    Then, not only girls go that way. While less in number there are men who embrace such a lifestyle too. Are they the result of guys objectifying girls too?

    Maybe you would find easier to understand shit if you don't start from the assumption men are evil and we are all poor victims of male oppression. *shrug*

    In any case you seem to be pretty blinded by your ideals and beliefs, which do nothing but remind me why I prefer to have no ideals at all outside of beauty and popularity. Thank you for that, lately I had been forgetting it myself. :hug:
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  17. Awor Szurkrarz Arcane

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    Except that almost no one faps to images of anorectic girls. That kind of deviancy is created by the fashion industry for girls, not for men's enjoyment. Fuck, even the alien creatures on fucking fashion drawings make me want to puke. Also, she said that she's too busy enjoying objectification of men in games to care about objectification of women. A point that you forget to take into account.
  18. LundB Up in the Air

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    I feel like once you go from discussing violent nuns in spandex in a video game trailer to whether or not reality isn't real, how you don't even know what you don't know, penis worship, and how women want to be men who want to be women who want to be gay who want to be laksjfownfnwf, the train of conversation has gone several stations too far, the brakes are broken, and it is hurtling towards a fiery collision at the end of the Retardo Railroad line.

    If you prefer, you may sum up the above as:
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  19. raw Cipher

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    Women get shot or stoned for leaving the house without a burka, or for having been raped by the wrong two men. And you whine about darwin arward nominees, boo fucking hoo. Get your shit straight.
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    White knighting too? Or what brought this on? It was just a reply explaining hypocrisy, which Blackcat seemed to be fine with, and that would have been it but I guess not.
  21. raw Cipher

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    The explanation of hypocrisy was hypocritic.
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    Fuck, you are such an gigantic retard. Did your mummy beat your ass red when you were little or did your ex-wife ran away with another guy? That level of hostility against women can't be healthy. Also, here's a free history lesson:

    Women improved their standing in Western society through their own means and efforts, with some help from sympathetic males. Just look at what most of Europe was like 100 years ago - women couldn't vote and could not legally own anything in many countries. 200 years ago they weren't legal entities, belonging either to their fathers, brothers or husbands. And yet even during those times there were women who opposed the early Feminists, claiming that things were "good enough as it is". Doubtless there were plenty of little hoopy's and doc savage's as well, moaning and whining about women already then.

    That women outside of the West often face much more severe persecution is a fact, but it doesn't diminish the need for improving the portrayal of women in video games. While the situations are nowhere nears on the same level of gravity, a feminist gamer can hardly change the situation in Afghanistan or Saudi-Arabia but she can raise awareness and focus pressure against developers and publishers. While I have nothing against occasional T&A, no-one can deny that the vast majority of female characters in video games are either damsels in distress or walking fanservice hotties. Furthermore, the original article pointed out that women are also treated as shit during conventions and inside the business itself - which really is an actual problem and an issue that would need addressing and more attention. Does the portrayal of women in games reflect the attitude towards women in the business? Now chew on that while performing your daily auto-erotic asphyxiation, you waste of flesh.
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    Roguey's a chick?

    :hmmm:
  24. raw Cipher

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    Yes, and that is all good and well Garfunkel but the main difference between what has happened 200 years ago or is currently happening in some arabic countries and video games, is that the former is real. It affects real women, with real problems. "Raising the awareness and focus pressure against developers and publishers" because someone put a bunch of boob shaped pixels into a video game is nothing but laughable in comparision. It's exaclty these kind of stuff that is so far removed from reality, that does the feministic cause - necessary as it is - more harm than good.
  25. Black Prophet

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    By Codex standards at least.
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    Sure, gaming fans are just excellently adjusted persons compared to the average esclavagiste pimp on saudi arabia. Still, there are a few telltales:
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    I don't blame the whores models. I blame the audience.

    My previous argument didn't have anything much to do with morality by the way, just narrative diversity (not like a give a shit about E3, or gamers for that matter).

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