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Review Vault Dweller Does Dragon Age II

Discussion in 'RPG Codex News & Content Comments' started by VentilatorOfDoom, Mar 24, 2011.

  1. Darth Roxor Prestigious Gentleman Wielder of the Huegpenis

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    Bah, you didn't finish the game? Weak. If I managed to finish Arcania, you should have finished this too :obviously:



    But regardless, good stuff, all in all.
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  2. Freelance Henchman Arcane

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    This shouldn't even be fuck-uppable when it's already only a popamole action shooter with cinematics, yet I can't help but wonder what insanely long working hours can accomplish.
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  3. Hazelnut Erudite

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    Good review, but surely a waste of your time VD - was it not obvious to the entire world what a POS this was going to be. I loved the DA:O a lot more than most people here, but every single piece of info about DA2 put me off, and I never had any intention of buying it. I did try the demo just because I was bored and Steam offered it. It was bad. A couple of things you never mentioned:

    1. Combat was super fast ('dynamic' I assume) and there was no way to manage the party tactics like in the first game - just choose a char and sit hitting buttons when they light up... wheee.

    2. Dialog was Mass Effected, becoming a total farce. I was surprised by what my character said multiple times in just the demo...


    I don't understand the, hmmm that game was successful lets change the good stuff and cut as many corners to make more money. How is that a good long term investment in the IP that cost so much and took so long to develop?

    :rpgcodex:
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  4. VentilatorOfDoom RPG Codex Staff Patron

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    Thankfully such kind of *legal* slavery might be bizness as usual in the KWA but not here.
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  5. Ladonna Liturgist

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    There are bigger audiences out there and EAware wants to capture them, but also hold on to their current audience if they can. Really, I don't see why FPS fans would be interested in DA2, nor RPG fans. It is all part of the ongoing "making CRPG's for people that don't like CRPG's" shtick.

    That was their intention anyway.

    Good work VD. As usual.
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  6. attackfighter Liturgist

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    Heh, even in comparrison to Gaider they were deemed incompetent and so were shuffled away to made up busy work positions. What of "William Wallace", is he an actual employee?
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  7. Pegultagol Augur

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    ME3 would probably be just like ME2 with more first day release DLCs, I think Bioware perfected a formula of sleaze action RPG in that series.
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  8. Black Arcane

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    Hey VD, when is "VD does Age of Decadence" coming?
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  9. VentilatorOfDoom RPG Codex Staff Patron

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    VD provided a nice batch of screens but didn't have derp roads and exploding enemies screens. So I added some of my own screens with his permission.
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  10. Commissar Draco KKKodex WCDS Commissar

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    Good review VD, I only don't agrree wih DA2 is good for what it is epillogue. It's turd period.
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  11. Joghurt Scholar

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    I'm 99% sure that the annoying mining minigame won't be in ME3. It it will still be there then it's just fucked up.
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  12. Volourn Pretty Princess Pretty Princess

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    " And what further exacerbates this is that there is no evidence whatsoever of the nature of the impending fight "

    Bullshit. It should ahve beenc lear what was coming,a nd the game gave hints all the way back in Act 2 what was coming. And, i say that despite the fact that this fight was not one of my favorites in the game. R00fles!
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  13. herostratus Magister

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  14. Mister Arkham Scholar

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    Yeah, actually. I'm working off of the assumption that they're using the same engine and gameplay system as ME2 though. Sure, I would love to see the team re-deepen the play experience, bringing in some new elements or even re-integrating some old ones...but ME2's controls and play were at least solidly built. If they're just plugging new story content into an old system then we can at least trust that they're spending the lion's share of their development cycle on the characters and story.
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  15. Haba Harbinger of Decline Patron

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    Well, yeah. Can't deny, especially since I have one design draft built on the same premise ;-)

    It is a simple core idea that can easily be built upon. Which is why it is baffling to see Bioware fail so spectacularly.
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  16. Drakron Magister

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    Yes and no, apparently ME2 PS3 version had the engines improvements of ME3 and they did said they were going to add more RPG mechanics since ... well ME2 was barebones and you pretty much maxed about everything at the end, if it regained the same mechanics it would need another "wipe".

    I dont think they could get very much "bare" that ME2 in terms of mechanics.
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  17. SCO Arcane

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    Jesus, what a fucking retard.
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  18. random_encounter Educated

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    So basically Laidlaw sacrificed any meaningful resolution for the sake of throwing in more even more combat?

    I tried to see any difference in teaming up with either antagonist and was annoyed that it always ended in the same way as if there were no other path to explore, nevermind that there had been an implied choice earlier on to take control of the city itself that is never expanded past an obligatory pooh pooh mediation session. Then again, I guess I shouldn't have been surprised at that point. All of the body bursting combat and "mages driven into desperation" should have at least dropped a few hints that it was going to be how things would ultimately turn out.

    Spot on. DA2 utterly missed the chance to explore this. Then again, it's probably too much for Laidlaw to wrap his head around without having to kill everyone.
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  19. Drakron Magister

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    No, its worst.

    Plot wise Meredith is insane at that point so fighting he is a given so question is why you have to fight Orsino anyway? he simply go nuts either way no matter what you do in order to have another boss fight.

    In fact characters end up different based on choices you made, if you pick male Hawke then Anders is now gay (or bi) as if you pick female Hawke there is no references of Anders being gay (or bi).

    This is not coherent, as I think someone mentioned you can be a Apostate Mage that uses magic in front of Templars and they are oblivious to it, your brother can join the Templars and yet nothing.
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  20. Volourn Pretty Princess Pretty Princess

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    "if you pick male Hawke then Anders is now gay (or bi) as if you pick female Hawke there is no references of Anders being gay (or bi)."

    No, he's always gay. Stupid dumbass. Just b/c he doesn't tell his gay escapades doesn't mean he's not gay.
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  21. Imbecile Arbiter

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    Great review, without much ranting and raving. I was halfway tempted to get this because I vaguely enjoyed DAO, but I've been spared I think.
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  22. random_encounter Educated

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    VD's (excellent) review pointed that out and I was also surprised to see the change. You can simply opt to pick "Blood Magic" in the game without much of a consequence where in Origins, it was sort of a one-time offer. No instruction gleaned from a forbidden text, no "hidden teacher" willing to impart the secrets of blood magic to a willing apostate, no deal with a demon. As long as you have a specialization point to spend, welcome to the horribly reviled and supposedly difficult to enter Blood Mage Club.

    And no one seems to be too put off by it enough to try and kill you which they do with every other blood mage in the game.

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  23. Volourn Pretty Princess Pretty Princess

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    "can simply opt to pick "Blood Magic" in the game without much of a consequence where in Origins, it was sort of a one-time offer. No instruction gleaned from a forbidden text, no "hidden teacher" willing to impart the secrets of blood magic to a willing apostate, no deal with a demon. As long as you have a specialization point to spend, welcome to the horribly reviled and supposedly difficult to enter Blood Mage Club."

    Actually, in DA1, my mage was able to become a blood mage without doing anything. LMFAO
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