Underrail [PRE-RELEASE THREAD, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Alfons]

It would seem that I have come upon more poor life choices regarding my latest character. It would seem that the feats Expertise and Gun Nut do not work with Energy Pistols. I had to read the wiki to figure out that Energy Pistols don't belong to firearms, which is poor and vague documentation on Styg's part. Maybe the game should specify it as Mechanical damage based firearms? I'm sure I'm not the only one who made this mistake.

It seems that's a common misunderstanding, I was actually going to warn you and forgot. The terminology is correct it's just that the most commonly accepted meaning of the word firearm is:

a rifle, pistol, or other portable gun.

That's according to google other sources state that a firearms is:

a small arms weapon, as a rifle or pistol, from which a projectile is fired by gunpowder.

Chemistry is godly. It's so easy to make nades and they are so good. One of the best skills imo.

Do yourself a favour and check the wiki for the soft cap.

I made Riot Armor out of an average of 50 item quality and it sucks. The shield is kinda nice, but the armor is pretty weak at protecting against guns and that's the bigger threat. Overall I'm finding armor in general to be vastly inferior to dodge / evade. Will need to try Metal Armor for the final verdict, but medium armor just seems lacking. Not heavy enough DR to negate enough damage but not light enough to be reliable for dodging either.

Only reason to use it IMO is if you play a pure psy for the psybeetle shield bonuses. Higher quality light vests are good against bullets. Unlike riot armor, it triples the DR. Heavy tactical vests are practically impervious to bullets. Metal armor is the win button. Higher quality ones can keep the resistance at 95% while being at around 30-40 percent burden with perks.

 

[Hobo Elf]

Yeah, that's a definition that a person who knows about guns might be aware of. For me, and probably most other people, a gun is a gun. I'd rather have the clear distinction made in-game rather than try to play russian roulette with what the dev meant and what the text might imply. I mean Expertise adds damage to your Fists, even if you use Telekinetic Punch and Force Emission, so why not Energy weapons as well? It's an easily fixable problem anyway as all it requires is rewording a couple feats.

 

[Zdzisiu]

Yeah, that's a definition that a person who knows about guns might be aware of. For me, and probably most other people, a gun is a gun. I'd rather have the clear distinction made in-game rather than try to play russian roulette with what the dev meant and what the text might imply. I mean Expertise adds damage to your Fists, even if you use Telekinetic Punch and Force Emission, so why not Energy weapons as well? It's an easily fixable problem anyway as all it requires is rewording a couple feats.

Thats why it is usefull to have many new people play the game and report their problems. For the old players of Underrail the description of the feat was not a problem as they either through previous experience or other factors learned how it works, but anything that is not immidietly obvious for a new player is a problem and should be made clear.

 

[Iluvcheezcake]

Dont know if something changed but the last time i played a pure psionic char the starting feats left little to be desired :/

 

[Hobo Elf]

Thats why it is usefull to have many new people play the game and report their problems. For the old players of Underrail the description of the feat was not a problem as they either through previous experience or other factors learned how it works, but anything that is not immidietly obvious for a new player is a problem and should be made clear.

I know, that's why I'm reporting my experience here . Hopefully Styg reads what I write here (NOTICE ME SENPAI) and finds something useful. I think this would be my biggest problem with the game so far.

 

[Alfons]

That shit has been covered on the underrail forums several times.

 

[Daedalos]

People talking about balance in a EA title... gg guys. Why so talk so much about it.

Styg knows whats wrong. That's why patches come out. Just wait for release. it fixes all the shit u talk about :D

 

[Iluvcheezcake]

I know it must have been asked many times before - but will it be possible to use thought control in dialogs sometimes?

 

[Nael]

People talking about balance in a EA title... gg guys. Why so talk so much about it.

Styg knows whats wrong. That's why patches come out. Just wait for release. it fixes all the shit u talk about :D

Its called "Feedback."

 

[Elim]

So, how long until release? Or should I play it right now?
I need a real RPG after I demo'ed Fallout 4. The horror....

 

[Daedalos]

Go play WL2 or D:OS for now.

or AoD

 

[Kem0sabe]

Don't play anything else, just wait for underrail, as nofap teaches us, abstinence makes it more enjoyable when you finally take stygs magnum opus into you in the full release

 

[Styg]

So, how long until release?

Not that long now...

 

[Daedalos]

December 2016

 

[Sykar]

Not that long now...

You know you would get worshipped if you'd release it now, right? People might even psi beetles.

 

[DavidBVal]

Let the man finish it right to the point he's 100% happy with it. What's a few months sooner or later going to change? I'd rather have the best experience possible and wait a bit for it.

 

[Alfons]

10 years later:

Styg, is it perfect yet?

 

[DavidBVal]

10 years later:

Until it's 17 years I wouldn't worry too much.

 

[Sykar]

Until it's 17 years I wouldn't worry too much.

Mh I guess it would make a nice present for our children then if it is still playable on then modern machines.

 

[Daedalos]

Ugh,.. I've kinda started regretting that I played this in EA before full release!

But the game is soo gud, hard to resist!

 

[Monocause]

Not that long now...

How do you think this works out in terms of making a business decision? I appreciate that it's a principle thing, but apart from that - what's your assessment on the sales impact these delays might have?

 

[Roobenator]

Luckily I've made shitty characters that kinda stop working around that mutant area behind junkyard and never advanced further. Therefore I consider myself virgin-like for the release. I'm also actively avoiding all build-discussion before I play this.

 

[Wirdschowerdn]

SteamSpy now says there's a Test version with password protection available. I suppose the closed Beta is about to start.

 

[Styg]

How do you think this works out in terms of making a business decision? I appreciate that it's a principle thing, but apart from that - what's your assessment on the sales impact these delays might have?

I think that both the timing of the release and the delays that were made in order to improve the overall content quality will pay off - if not immediately, then certainly in the long run.

 

[Sykar]

I think that both the timing of the release and the delays that were made in order to improve the overall content quality will pay off - if not immediately, then certainly in the long run.

Can you give a (very) rough estimate how much longer the polish will take?