Ultima Ultima IV Apple II - Help with Room

[SMT2isgood]

hello i am playing Ultima IV in Apple II

when i enter to a room in Deceit :

http://i57.tinypic.com/2ag11k9.png

I have to do something before you can enter the dungeon?

I don't think my Disk 3 is broken

 

[Unkillable Cat]

I'm not an expert on the early Ultimas, but what I could find said to "Cast Y (up) here."

 

[Bumvelcrow]

I'm not an expert on the early Ultimas

Ultima IV - early? Beginning of the golden era, definitely, but hardly early. Sorry to derail this thread but I couldn't contain myself. You youngsters don't know what you were missing, etc, etc...

 

[Deuce Traveler]

hello i am playing Ultima IV in Apple II

when i enter to a room in Deceit :

http://i57.tinypic.com/2ag11k9.png

I have to do something before you can enter the dungeon?

I don't think my Disk 3 is broken

Welcome to the RPG Codex and it's awesome that your first post deals with my favorite CRPG of the 1980s, though I played it on an Atari 130 XE. I looked at my copy of "Shay Addams' Official Book of Ultima", which covers Ultima I through VI, and I just realized how horrible of a book it is with a lack of solid spoilers. The section on Deceit in Ultima IV merits a small paragraph, and it says nothing of any tricks to leave a room. Further, I searched website for hints and found this which states that Deceit should be an easy and straightforward dungeon: http://ultima.wikia.com/wiki/Dungeon_Solution_for_Ultima_IV

I am unsure whether or not you found a glitch in the Apple version, but if you did I am also unsure how you can proceed.

 

[Whiran]

hello i am playing Ultima IV in Apple II

when i enter to a room in Deceit :

http://i57.tinypic.com/2ag11k9.png

I have to do something before you can enter the dungeon?

I don't think my Disk 3 is broken

I played Ultima IV on the Apple II when it came out.

If you could put the image on imgur instead of tinypic I may be able to help you - I can't see the image on tinypic and, frankly, am not about to try and figure out which scripts to enable to allow me to see it.

An alternative is if you could explain the problem? Oh, wait, enter the dungeon.. do you know the.. not password but the proper.. mantra was it?

 

[SMT2isgood]

I played Ultima IV on the Apple II when it came out.

If you could put the image on imgur instead of tinypic I may be able to help you .....

Oh, wait, enter the dungeon.. do you know the.. not password but the proper.. mantra was it?

there is http://imgur.com/YNfs5M6


Simply just enter the dungeon of Deceit, When I walk into a '' room '' for example http://ultima.wikia.com/wiki/U4-Deceit-L2-Room-1, instead of finding enemies, I find that black screen with waves.

Mantra Does not have to use it in the Shrine after getting the blue stone?

If I need to use a password, i don't know how to use it

and I haven't even spoken to Lord British yet.

 

[Sceptic]

I'm not sure I can help with anything specific to the Apple version, my version of choice has been PC for decades now.

Is this happening with every room you enter in Deceit?

To me this looks like some kind of graphic/data corruption. Either the disk is corrupted, or the game is reading the data from the wrong disk. I know there were many tricks one could do on the Apple with the early Ultimas, by having the wrong disk inserted. You mention the disk isn't broken; are you playing from a physical disk, from an image you created yourself, or one you downloaded?

 

[ScottishMartialArts]

Yeah, I second Sceptic's take: this is a bug/corrupted game file. I don't remember anything like this in Deceit.

 

[Ladonna]

That is a corrupted file, no doubt about it. No such room exists in UIV. Thankfully, by the look of it, you are just starting the game. Redownload a new game file from elsewhere (if possible) and try that.

If that doesn't work, the cloud has a silver lining; you can get winvice and play the C64 version. You can thank me after you start playing it.

 

[SMT2isgood]

I download another DISK 3 and now work, thank us very much ¡¡

I simply chose to play the version of Apple why is the original, but I like the music of the C64 version.

 

[Desktop Commander]

I can't see the image on tinypic and, frankly, am not about to try and figure out which scripts to enable to allow me to see it.

Hail, fellow noscript user. Tinypic is surprisingly straightforward in this regard: you only need to enable permission for tinypic.com, the rest is ads, social media and similar clutter that can safely be ignored.

 

[Casual Hero]

Whoa, are you really playing on an Apple ][?
*Jealous*

 

[Sceptic]

I simply chose to play the version of Apple why is the original, but I like the music of the C64 version.

I really like the Apple music for U4, I must say. If your emulator supports the Mockingboard, be sure to play it with music on.

Glad it's working now, have fun with the game.

 

[Jaesun]

I really like the Apple music for U4, I must say. If your emulator supports the Mockingboard, be sure to play it with music on.

Yeah, I was just doing a random youtube search and the Apple music for it (even though still quite primitive) it actually pretty cool, compared to the C64 music. The tones on the Apple are much cleaner and nicer.

 

[Luzur]

Whoa, are you really playing on an Apple ][?
*Jealous*

I dont see him mentioning that anywhere? and he talk about DOWNLOADING a Disk 3, maybe he have a transfer system setup to get the file on a 5,25 disk, what do i know. *shrugs*

 

[Casual Hero]

I dont see him mentioning that anywhere? and he talk about DOWNLOADING a Disk 3, maybe he have a transfer system setup to get the file on a 5,25 disk, what do i know. *shrugs*

Oh... okay. I just used the GOG version. One day I hope to buy a working Apple ][e, but the only problem is, when I actually have enough money I probably won't be able to buy one that still works.

 

[Luzur]

I dont see him mentioning that anywhere? and he talk about DOWNLOADING a Disk 3, maybe he have a transfer system setup to get the file on a 5,25 disk, what do i know. *shrugs*

Oh... okay. I just used the GOG version. One day I hope to buy a working Apple ][e, but the only problem is, when I actually have enough money I probably won't be able to buy one that still works.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-App...631?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f48fc3047

250 USD

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-II-Eu...529?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item339fa383b9

bid

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GAMER-LOT-O...071?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20f7789bf7

1499 USD, but you get the whole equipment deal.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-II-Pl...364?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ede72b664

549 USD

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-II-PL...569?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c9887f779

439 USD

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ORDINATEUR-...Ordinateurs_de_Collection&hash=item3f49046054

230 Euro

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-APP...949?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a4ca865c5

249 USD

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Comrex-CR-1...578?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a4d5ea492

Clone, 150 USD

Huh, prices have risen since i bought my Apple IIe, i got that for 1500 SEK in total (175 USD + shipping for, i dunno, 40 USD? it was when the dollar was at its lowest point some years ago) so if these wont do (remember you get to skip on shipping prices) maybe go around fleamarkets or simply ask around on craigslist might help.

 

[Ladonna]

I really like the Apple music for U4, I must say. If your emulator supports the Mockingboard, be sure to play it with music on.

Yeah, I was just doing a random youtube search and the Apple music for it (even though still quite primitive) it actually pretty cool, compared to the C64 music. The tones on the Apple are much cleaner and nicer.

I always found the Apple II music to be 'whimpy' compared to the SID music, and this being the case even with a mockingboard addon card that cost the same as a new C64. Without the mockingboard, it doesn't bear thinking of.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxHDbisc0-Q Apple II with mockingboard expansion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2MZMZNObnM&list=PL1lrUcoUcLi-du-01AEesshGouOnG3627&index=6 stock C64 (the other songs can be selected as well).

 

[Jaesun]

captainkanji
8 months ago
I played this game so much it burned the UI into the monitor.