Triss Romance Updates

[Azarkon]

I was browsing through CD Projekt forums one day, and what do I spy with my little eye?

933 pages of bitching about Triss's romance:

http://forums.cdprojektred.com/thre...and-the-inconsistency-of-our-romance-s-choice

This is easily the longest thread I found on the forums in my time browsing. The second longest being Yennefer's thread. It is also one of the longest, most structured, and frequently updated posts.

You gotta give it to the romance fans: they are dedicated. And because this isn't a Bioware game, it isn't a case of SJWing, but actual nerd raging.

In this case, the dedication has paid off. CD Projekt responded:

Just to let everyone know. We pay very close attention to everything you guys write in this thread. We will be addressing this situation by adding/changing some dialogue stuff in the future - more info on this will come later so pardon my scarce input for the time being. This should help with the immersion. And once again, thank you all for your valuable feedback.

Not sure what to make of this, except that it shows that it isn't just the LGBT and female players that are into video game romances. Bioware ought to be paying attention, but I know they won't.

 

[VentilatorOfDoom]

Triss Romance was underwhelming. CDProjekt really dropped the ball here, they could've done better tapping the Triss Romance Market.

 

[pippin]

Why would you want to romance worst girl when you can do it with your True Waifu (tm)

 

[Eirikur]

I can sympathize with much of the criticism. Even if you choose Triss, the game will assume that you're with Yennefer in many of the scenes. Yenn will kiss Geralt in front of Triss, without her reacting, etc. The mid-endgame doesn't really recognize that you've chosen Triss at all; she'll just be present as a friend.

 

[pippin]

Well...



At least they give you some confort in thinking she might be alive, somewhere. But they did just this:

I can sympathize with much of the criticism. Even if you choose Triss, the game will assume that you're with Yennefer in many of the scenes. Yenn will kiss Geralt in front of Triss, without her reacting, etc. The mid-endgame doesn't really recognize that you've chosen Triss at all; she'll just be present as a friend.

With Shani. I mean, she's not even mentioned in TW2 at all.

 

[Cromwell]

For making the biggest complain thread in their forums about romance these people deserve whatever they get.

 

[Carrion]

The CDPR forums look like they are slowly but surely turning into another BSN, although so far it seems more innocent with less SJW and mostly just sad, lonely nerds. The longest thread is indeed the 900-page Triss romance bitching thread, followed by the regular Yennefer and Triss threads that are 500+ and 300+ pages respectively. After that there's a 100-page thread about the lack of post-game content, which mostly comes down to people complaining about their severe depression when they didn't get the chance to spend time with their "LI" after finishing the game. There are seriously tons of people who simply can't let go of the characters and are willing to pay CDPR for added content, even for completely retarded stuff like being able to live in your own house after finishing the game and share kisses and have some inane dialogue with your waifu. There's even the large shadow of Evil Chris Priestly looming over the forums.

That being said, Triss could definitely use more dialogue later in the game aside from "Well?", "Well?", "Well?", etc., and it's not like some of that bitching isn't warranted. I just hope CDPR doesn't only cater to those disgusting deviants but also addresses some of the other similar issues, like some unfinished storylines especially in Novigrad, the generally poor ending slides or the main villains that just spout out one-liners and have less character than the frying pan lady from White Orchard.

With Shani. I mean, she's not even mentioned in TW2 at all.

There was a brief mention of her in your journal if you romanced her.

 

[Eirikur]

In the original Witcher, Triss was portrayed as a highly confident femme fatale type, like Yennefer is, clearly deviating from the Triss of the novels. Shani had more genuine Triss-like characteristics.

In the sequel, Triss' personality was changed to being very true to the novels. It was probably done because Yennefer was being introduced into the story, and the two sorceresses should be more clearly differentiated, as in the novels. The writers probably had W3 in mind.

This might be part of the reason why Shani wasn't included in W2-3. She played the romantic alternative to Triss in W1, but was more Triss-like than Triss, and thus became obsolete/superfluous when Triss' trissicity was restored in W2.

 

[Athelas]

I guess Bioware really has been dethroned as the premiere story-driven RPG developer.

 

[made]

I guess Bioware really has been dethroned as the premiere story-driven RPG developer.

Talimancers are closing in on 3000 pages here:
http://forum.bioware.com/topic/221846-talizorah-me3-thread-major-spoiler-warning/page-2767

"Trissmancers" better step up their game.

 

[pippin]

In the original Witcher, Triss was portrayed as a highly confident femme fatale type, like Yennefer is, clearly deviating from the Triss of the novels. Shani had more genuine Triss-like characteristics.

In the sequel, Triss' personality was changed to being very true to the novels. It was probably done because Yennefer was being introduced into the story, and the two sorceresses should be more clearly differentiated, as in the novels. The writers probably had W3 in mind.

This might be part of the reason why Shani wasn't included in W2-3. She played the romantic alternative to Triss in W1, but was more Triss-like than Triss, and thus became obsolete/superfluous when Triss' trissicity was restored in W2.

Yeah, while I haven't read all the books, I think some artwork text said the people at CDPR changed Triss' at times "girly" personality so it could fit in the kind of game they wanted to make.

I guess Bioware really has been dethroned as the premiere story-driven RPG developer.

Talimancers are closing in on 3000 pages here:
http://forum.bioware.com/topic/221846-talizorah-me3-thread-major-spoiler-warning/page-2767

"Trissmancers" better step up their game.

There is only one good kind of "-mancy"

 

[TheEntitledOne]

People went full waifuwars with this game. At least the women aren't atrocius like in Dragon Age 3: Electric Bugallo 2: PrepTheBull.

And everyone knows who the best girl is.

Spoiler

Ciri

The sequel will be great if you control her, visiting the multiverse and ravishing barmaids (collecting sex cards).

 

[Neanderthal]

These people have heard of porn haven't they?

 

[Carrion]

These people have heard of porn haven't they?

You'd think they would've discovered Playboy after they found out Triss was in it, so they've probably heard of it. Anyway, it's not (only) about the tits but also the feelings.

In the original Witcher, Triss was portrayed as a highly confident femme fatale type, like Yennefer is, clearly deviating from the Triss of the novels. Shani had more genuine Triss-like characteristics.

In the sequel, Triss' personality was changed to being very true to the novels. It was probably done because Yennefer was being introduced into the story, and the two sorceresses should be more clearly differentiated, as in the novels. The writers probably had W3 in mind.

This might be part of the reason why Shani wasn't included in W2-3. She played the romantic alternative to Triss in W1, but was more Triss-like than Triss, and thus became obsolete/superfluous when Triss' trissicity was restored in W2.

In TW1 Triss also pretty much represented all sorceresses, and displaying her as she was in the books might've created the wrong impression of magic users. TW2 introduced more of the Lodge and had Philippa, Síle and Sabrina, who were all pretty cold and ruthless in some way, which allowed the writers to make Triss a lot closer to what she was in the books. I don't think Yennefer necessarily had all that much to do with it.

I'm guessing Shani was dropped mostly because of the change in the tone and the story they were going for in TW2. Can't say it ever bothered me much.

 

[Malpercio]

Triss is Bioware-tier.

Yennefer is ok though.

Not sure what to make of this, except that it shows that it isn't just the LGBT and female players that are into video game romances. Bioware ought to be paying attention, but I know they won't.

... people actually though this?

You guys ever heard of dating sims and VN?

 

[ghostdog]

Posting in epic thread that will reach 100+ pages.

 

[taxalot]

How can anyone prefer Yennefer over Triss is beyond me.

 

[taxalot]

Holy shit, I jumped to a random page

Originally Posted by SoleilMeurtri
So many feelings i had when he told her "Je t'aime"

We all felt it. My heart shattered when she left however briefly at the docks during my first playthrough. If nothing else, I will play the game a third time just to see them finally win each other. Most amazing romantic scene ever

What the fuck. Virgins.

Something Baudelaire,Verlaine and Hugo would write.

What

 

[Immortal]

How can anyone prefer Yennefer over Triss is beyond me.

People who never read the books don't know who the fuck Yennefer is. Triss has been your girl since the first Witcher. Then in Witcher 3 your thrown in with some random sorceress with black hair and is a supreme salty bitch (Lanbert in a wig and dress basically).. Triss is still pining after you the whole game and throwing herself at you.

It's not that farfetched at all.

I like Triss more.. but obviously im gonna fuck every girl in the lodge I can.. Need that steam achievement.

 

[Carrion]

How can anyone prefer Yennefer over Triss is beyond me.

- She never schemed with the Lodge of Sorceresses or betrayed Geralt or Ciri
- She never outright lied to or took advantage of Geralt
- She never fucked her best friend's boyfriend
- She's certifiably willing to give her life for Geralt
- She's the "mother" of Geralt's "daughter"
- She doesn't care for power (anymore), she just wants Geralt and doesn't let anything come between them
- Lore
- Unicorns

Her social skills may leave something to be desired, but unlike Triss you can at least be sure that her intentions regarding Geralt are pure. I also think Triss peaked in TW2, and the TW3 version lacks some of that spark.

Then in Witcher 3 your thrown in with some random sorceress

They started the build-up for her in the prologue of TW2, and every flashback in the game was more or less about her. Not that random.

 

[Neanderthal]

I think Witcher 3 missed out in not having you corner Triss, I mean she was using whatever vague memories of Yen you had from the get go, you even gained a resistance to magic at the Roses of Rememberance place if you gave her the Spanish archer, proving either she or the Roses were up to something. Not to mention that shit with the mirror at the beginning of chapter 3 in Vizima. Then again she was a bit too sugary sweet and girlish for my liking.

They could both die if it meant keeping old Vesemir alive though, or seeing that bastard Berengar again. Brother freaks before gardening implements as the kids say.

 

[TheEntitledOne]

How can anyone prefer Yennefer over Triss is beyond me.

- She never schemed with the Lodge of Sorceresses or betrayed Geralt or Ciri
- She never outright lied to or took advantage of Geralt
- She never fucked her best friend's boyfriend
- She's certifiably willing to give her life for Geralt
- She's the "mother" of Geralt's "daughter"
- She doesn't care for power (anymore), she just wants Geralt and doesn't let anything come between them
- Lore
- Unicorns

- She never tried to have sex with Geralt while he was cleaning his explosive diarrhea and Ciri was watching (I don't recall the exact moment this happened).

 

[Carrion]

I think Witcher 3 missed out in not having you corner Triss, I mean she was using whatever vague memories of Yen you had from the get go

It was implied that they already had this discussion six months earlier, and it was the reason they went their separate ways after TW2.

you even gained a resistance to magic at the Roses of Rememberance place if you gave her the Spanish archer, proving either she or the Roses were up to something.

Then again, you got new abilities in TW2 from all kinds of nonsense, so you couldn't really read too much into it.

 

[Immortal]

They started the build-up for her in the prologue of TW2, and every flashback in the game was more or less about her. Not that random.

uhh barely.. this is like sending a few emails to someone across the world and then one day they show up and your expected to instantly feel in love with them. It might make sense for Geralt to be in love with her but you as a player have never seen or heard about her before so why should you care.

Is your job in this game to play Geralt as closely as he's supposed to be in the books or is it to play a witcher and make your own decisions. It doesn't surprise me at all how many players feel a closer link to triss.

 

[Neanderthal]

It was implied that they already had this discussion six months earlier, and it was the reason they went their separate ways after TW2.


Then again, you got new abilities in TW2 from all kinds of nonsense, so you couldn't really read too much into it.

Must have missed that, I remember her saying she'd used you, ah well never mind.

I thought they were all pretty logical, pyromaniac - get set on fire, backstab bonus - look at Asscreed corpse, ignore traps - set off traps, etc. Mind you can't remember all of 'em.