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Totally Not Corrupt Professional Objective Gaming Journalism DRAMA

abnaxus

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Man, this is why Kotick is king.
Not because he's a good game designer or some shit, or that his company makes good games.
It's because he's a good business man who knows how to fucking wring EVERY GODDAMN PENNY out of something.
That's the guy you want at the helm of a company, the guy who knows how to work it all to his advantage.
Not some guy who makes great games but doesn't really want to run things because he doesn't like that angle.
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Dr Tomo

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Where does this lead us to?

You are worthless to us.

Where once you were worth $20, and then you might have become a fan and bought another 4 games off of us for $20, you were worth $100. We only had to fix your computer for you once, as well, so the next four games amortised the cost of the initial support. If we were lucky you were a gamer and already had drivers and liked our stuff and bought the lot. Sometimes you’d tell your friends and maybe one of them would buy a game from us.

But now?

Now you’re worth $1 to us. If you buy every one of our games, you’re worth $5. After Valve and the tax man and the bank take their cuts, you’re not even worth half a cup of coffee. So, while we’re obsequiously polite and helpful when you do contact us for support, even if it’s just the same old “please install some actual video drivers” response, you really should be aware that you are a dead loss. Even if you buy everything we ever make again. Even if all your friends buy everything we ever make again. You just cost us money. Not just fictitious, huge-piles-of-filthy-lucre indie-game-developer who made-it-big money. All our money. We barely scratch a living, like most indie game developers. You quite literally cost us lunch because the shop sold you a computer with broken software on it.

So you’ll understand now why customers aren’t worth anything much any more. You’ll realise why we’re actually happy to see you go if you feel like insulting us. You might add two and two together and realise that for four, we’re not going to cry ourselves to sleep over the loss of your custom when we don’t take your shit.
There you have it folks, this is Steam/humble bundles fault for devaluing games and the interweb for less supportive video gamers. Because of the lower cost of games great studios like this one are going under and peoples dreams are being destroyed. It obviously has nothing to do with the fact that the studio was trying to release a mmo rpg and prototyping another game at the same time and facing insolvency.
 

Chamezero

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He is the moron who first released a game in a "pay-what-you-want-bundle" instead of leaving that for when the sales drop, what do you expect.
 

Machocruz

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As I recall the OP of this thread was an utter twat on our forums complaining he’d bought the game the day before Humble was announced and he was pissed off that he could have bought it for 1 cent.

Well, fuck him.

Fuck him royally.

He can take his 1 cent and shove it up his arse. And all future money he ever wants to give us, and all the money that his friends and friends of friends might have ever wanted to give us for our games. We do not want customers like him. We want people who actually like to play our games and think they’re worth owning. Not self-entitled spoiled brats who think the world owes them entertainment for nothing.

This is the approach of a sophisticated business man, obviously :obviously:
 

Hobo Elf

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I just wanted to share this scan of a game review mag I found on 4chan. Just look at. It reads like prophetic scriptures. Nostradamus has NOTHING on this.
 

Angthoron

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A Faggot said:
He can take his 1 cent and shove it up his arse. And all future money he ever wants to give us, and all the money that his friends and friends of friends might have ever wanted to give us for our games. We do not want customers like him. We want people who actually like to play our games and think they’re worth owning. Not self-entitled spoiled brats who think the world owes them entertainment for nothing.

Then why put it up on the HB in the first place? That's like selling your shit in charity shops and then getting mad people aren't paying a premium for it.
Not to mention that some of the games sold in that bundle were actually still being made. They sold a couple of games that were either alpha or beta at the time, IIRC.
 

Sceptic

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By the way, recalling the recent IGN D:OS review, is that a new thing where the reviewers don't bother to play even 5% of the game before reviewing? Was I blind to this phenomenon 5 years ago or has it just come to existence recently?
It's been around for more than 20 years, you're completely blind if you thought it was recent. Johnny L. Wilson talked about "shrink wrap reviews" back in the late 90s.
 

Menckenstein

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At some point during the Cold War weaponized stupidity was developed and unleashed upon the world. We're doomed.
 

Dr Tomo

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A Faggot said:
He can take his 1 cent and shove it up his arse. And all future money he ever wants to give us, and all the money that his friends and friends of friends might have ever wanted to give us for our games. We do not want customers like him. We want people who actually like to play our games and think they’re worth owning. Not self-entitled spoiled brats who think the world owes them entertainment for nothing.

Then why put it up on the HB in the first place? That's like selling your shit in charity shops and then getting mad people aren't paying a premium for it.

Because the games they sold weren't that good and instead of blaming themselves for being idiots they are taking it out on Steam/HB and consumers. More on the consumers because we are all Jews for not paying a premium for indie games. I have seen most indies only put their games on the HB after they saw no increase after a couple Steam sales, it looks like their game sold like shit so they were forced to peddle their game on to the humble bundle.
 

Spectacle

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I guess the indie idiot thought it was free money to put the game in a bundle, even if it's not very much. He failed to realise he'd have to support the game for eternity if he wants to preserve his reputation.

I wonder how much money there is in bundles these days? The first few humble bundles got a lot of attention since they were new and unique, and sold loads to hipsters who paid decent amounts. These days it seems like the only ones who care are super cheapasses who want to pad their steam accounts.
 

tuluse

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I guess the indie idiot thought it was free money to put the game in a bundle, even if it's not very much. He failed to realise he'd have to support the game for eternity if he wants to preserve his reputation.

I wonder how much money there is in bundles these days? The first few humble bundles got a lot of attention since they were new and unique, and sold loads to hipsters who paid decent amounts. These days it seems like the only ones who care are super cheapasses who want to pad their steam accounts.
Latest humble bundle: https://www.humblebundle.com/

Almost 200k sold, with an average just over $6 for 6 games. When you take out the fees, charity, etc, that probably leaves ~$.50 per copy. So each dev is making $100k?
 

Jarpie

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Total Biscuit has published video "Why you shouldn't be excited - A look at games media's role in hype"



We might not like TB's taste in games or all is stuff but at least he has balls to not to shy away from the topic.
 

Cadmus

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Total Biscuit has published video "Why you shouldn't be excited - A look at games media's role in hype"



We might not like TB's taste in games or all is stuff but at least he has balls to not to shy away from the topic.

It seems to me he has almost no balls because he is so extremely soft on all these journalists he pretends to be criticizing. Yes, it's good that you talk about it but fucking call it how it is, don't softball it like this. Basically, he comes across as if we should still be hopeful and trust the journalists to come around. They won't, they don't deserve even their shitty job and can't ever be trusted again.
 

Jarpie

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Total Biscuit has published video "Why you shouldn't be excited - A look at games media's role in hype"



We might not like TB's taste in games or all is stuff but at least he has balls to not to shy away from the topic.

It seems to me he has almost no balls because he is so extremely soft on all these journalists he pretends to be criticizing. Yes, it's good that you talk about it but fucking call it how it is, don't softball it like this. Basically, he comes across as if we should still be hopeful and trust the journalists to come around. They won't, they don't deserve even their shitty job and can't ever be trusted again.


Yeah, you're right. He does come on this softly.
 

Metro

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Hilarious that TB trashes gaming 'journalism' as he'd be fucking nowhere without it. Here's a guy who rode YouTube and World of Warcraft to millions of dollars... he was in bed with Blizzard for a looooooooooooong time.
 

J_C

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Total Biscuit has published video "Why you shouldn't be excited - A look at games media's role in hype"



We might not like TB's taste in games or all is stuff but at least he has balls to not to shy away from the topic.

It seems to me he has almost no balls because he is so extremely soft on all these journalists he pretends to be criticizing. Yes, it's good that you talk about it but fucking call it how it is, don't softball it like this. Basically, he comes across as if we should still be hopeful and trust the journalists to come around. They won't, they don't deserve even their shitty job and can't ever be trusted again.


Yeah, you're right. He does come on this softly.

Yeah, because if he is not cursing, bitching and whining like some people on the Codex, he is soft. He tackled the issue intelligently, he didn't need to be more agressive.
 

Cadmus

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Total Biscuit has published video "Why you shouldn't be excited - A look at games media's role in hype"



We might not like TB's taste in games or all is stuff but at least he has balls to not to shy away from the topic.

It seems to me he has almost no balls because he is so extremely soft on all these journalists he pretends to be criticizing. Yes, it's good that you talk about it but fucking call it how it is, don't softball it like this. Basically, he comes across as if we should still be hopeful and trust the journalists to come around. They won't, they don't deserve even their shitty job and can't ever be trusted again.


Yeah, you're right. He does come on this softly.

Yeah, because if he is not cursing, bitching and whining like some people on the Codex, he is soft. He tackled the issue intelligently, he didn't need to be more agressive.

it's not because of that, it's because he comes off as kinda hopeful and telling people that all is not lost, when what he should be saying is that it's completely lost until all of the journalists are replaced by real people/robots
 

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