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Total Recall (rape)

Discussion in 'Codex Public Library' started by DwarvenFood, Mar 15, 2012.

  1. Wyrmlord III Formerly Hot Rod Todd Howard

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    Did somebody call for an exterminator?
  2. villain of the story Magister

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    Ok, I'll try again: The next time I log into my bank account, I want to see $100M in there.

    edit: doesn't work.
  3. Destroid Magister

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    I read this in the voice of Starcraft Ghost.

  4. Slenkar Liturgist

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    I thought Total Recall with Arnie wasnt ambiguous about Arnie being in a dream, cos the guy who offers him the pill is sweating,

    It is weird how the 2 guys chasing arnie try to kill him for reals, when they are not supposed to...
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    If you follow fiction related to dreams you know one recurring element and thats that if a person dies in a dream he dies in real life. So the doctor that offered the pill was afraid that he will be killed by a man who no longer knew difference between truth and reality and he thought he was a secret agent that everyone is conspiring against.

    2 guys chasing Arnie appear to try to kill him for real because his brain created that sense of danger.
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    But it could be that it is all true and he's just sweating because he's in a tight spot and it really was just a trap to catch Arnie. That's the beauty of Total Recall.
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    One major clue points to it all being a dream and that the design of his ex girlfriend on the computer in the office of Recall. When they design the looks of the "perfect" woman she ends up looking exactly as the girl he meets on the Mars. While there are some clues that point it all being a dream the direction of the movie is so well paced that the viewer doesnt have a moment to think about it and is constantly focused on the action. In the end both Quaid and the viewer ask them self what if it all was a dream, and you remember the words from the guy who works in Recall when Quaid asked him how real will dream be and he says "Your brain will not know the difference".
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    There is no definitive answer.
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    There is a definitive answer. It was definitely a dream.

    He was offered specifications for a dream.

    Everything turned out exactly like his specifications.
  10. Slenkar Liturgist

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    yeah and the end faded to white instead of black which was supposed to represent waking up
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    Except he dreams of the exact same girl at the beginning of the movie.

    There is no definitive answer because the film is pure cheese, there's just not that much depth to it, and things are just thrown in for effect. There's no underlying logic. Also, i never read the Dick story the film its based on, but i wouldn't expect that to offer any particular answers either. Blade Runner too is very ambiguous, and reading the book didn't solve the riddle, it just showed that Ridley Scott or whoever wrote the script didn't actually understand the novel. You might as well think Deckard is a replicant, since the replicants are shown to have human emotions in the end, which were not supposed to according to the book. In fact, that was the god damn point to begin with.
  12. Luzur Good Sir

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    first Miami Vice, Transformers and Sherlock Holmes, now this.

    are they trying to revive the 80's?

    is someone in Hollywood planning to remake Back to the Future, Flashdance and Police Academy?

    what about Moonwalker?

    oh hey, Neverending Story, totally remakeable yep.
  13. Slenkar Liturgist

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    That Michael Jackson short Captain EO needs to be remade
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    We were kids when we first watched these films, now we're adults with our own money they want us to watch them again.

    And it works, these remakes almost always make a decent profit.
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    I can understand people seeing the first transformers cos it was cool in the 80's, but 2 and 3???
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    The new transformers movies aren't remakes they are just fucking retarded.
    DwarvenFood Brofists this.
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    Any reasons the original (movie) sucked?

    My opinion of new one: 1st 45 minutes was quite promising (gravity elevator, very first action scenes), all up until he arrives at his apartment with girlfriend and starts to discover the Truth/takes the train to go to meet the 'Resistance'. Just up to that point I was still wondering when/how they were going to bring in Mars and realized this is not-a-science-fiction film and lost interest.

    The one big problem with modern 'sci-fi' is they have absolutely no imagination. Mars was interesting because it had aliens, secret tunnels and the whole spy conspiracy inextricably linked to a secret technology which could bring life to Mars. In this the only issue is some vague workers rights/land rights/immigration/independence stuff between two groups of identical human beings that none of the characters actually seem to give a fuck about. Supposedly the 'Colony' is less crowded and more desirable place to live, even though the only shots we see the Colony is an overcrowded ghetto and Britain is the opposite.

    Everything the names of the countries (Australia/Britain) technology/computers, guns down to the way people dress looks like 2012... the only imaginative thing is the gravity elevator and they didn't even use it to its full effect - I assumed when the explosions went off and it started falling they would all go down with it, or it would shoot out the other side too fast and they would need to fight for the copter and take off before it exploded.
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    Totally not serious enough in tone -- so over-acted and hammy. Arnold didn't play a character, he played Arnold. There was no scientific validity in shit! The sets looked cheap -- you can see the cardboard under all that silver paint. We never get a real answer as to whether it was all a dream or a real event. The villain's plot to kill his own customers just didn't make any sense! (I do not endorse any of these, but feel free to choose the one most applicable.)

    Yep.

    Liked certain design elements of the massively-layered cities, too -- other parts, like normal 2000-era homes perched on thin metal platforms, not so much. The gov's little colony and his desire to burn it all down didn't make much sense -- at least in the original there was a sense of compartmentalization: suffocate whore ally, preserve the miners' quarters/resort sections.

    It's one of those movies I've watched but can't recall half of it. :(
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    It was an Arnie-Verhoeven collaboration, so these things are par for the course. I personally loved the set designs, the bloody cheesiness of the script and the one liners (Benny, screw yooooou!). Also complaining about ambiguity in a Dick story (even one only pretty loosely adapted by a crazy Dutch man) is dumb. You might as well complain about Joe Chip money.
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    If anything, I agree with you. None the less, I an understand why others would hate it for one, or all of these, reasons.

    I was wrong, by the way, about the new version: Cohegen is on a killing spree to replace his . . . colonists with robots that need colonists to construct them . . . the fuck?
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    For an apparently dystopian, overcrowded and destitute future, Colin Farrell had a pretty nice apartment. Hell, the apartment I live in doesn't look as good, and it's in one of the better parts of the city and isn't exactly cheap.

    Gotta admit, the film basically completely turned me off barely within the first five minutes. The harsh strobe effect used in the escape scene made my eyes hurt and gave me a headache which lasted for the rest of the fucking movie. Watching Bryan Cranston kick the shit out of Farrell in a knife fight was pretty amusing, though.

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