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Technology Total Loser Elon Musk Hemorrhaging Money From His Failed Tesla Outfit

Discussion in 'SCIENCE!!' started by jcd, Aug 4, 2016.

  1. fantadomatgender: ⚧ Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Edgy

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    I watched his videos,sadly he becomes highly annoying when he is talking about politics and religion. So i stick to the science.
     
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    Time travel, evidently.
     
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  3. Make America Great Again cvvgender: ⚧ Arcane Patron

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    Elon Musk is Mr. Vercotti of our age.

     
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  4. Make America Great Again Mastermindgender: ⚧ Arcane Bethestard

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    them vs us refers to humans vs machines, don't sperg out too much about it
     
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  5. Make America Great Again Lady Errorgender: ⚧ Arcane Literally Hitler

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    I think that cyborg shit should be outlawed, just like WMD's.

    Just let everyone own their own powerful AI assistant, which can be combined with others for specific tasks etc. Decentralization is key to almost everything.
     
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  6. tmuxgender: ⚧ Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Illiterate Possibly Retarded Edgy

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    Then why has Musk developed the most centralized AI system for his cars the world has seen?
     
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  7. Make America Great Again Lady Errorgender: ⚧ Arcane Literally Hitler

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    What other AI systems for cars are you comparing this to? Are there more decentralized AI systems for cars or are you just claiming something with nothing to back it up, as usual?
     
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  8. tmuxgender: ⚧ Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Illiterate Possibly Retarded Edgy

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    Why are you trying to insert a red herring? Is it impossible to create a decentralized system without a precedent?
     
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    I recognize Mr. Vercotti as the one who blackmailed the British Army.

     
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  11. Make America Great Again Lady Errorgender: ⚧ Arcane Literally Hitler

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    "Musk developed the most centralized AI system for his cars the world has seen" implies that there are other AI systems for cars that are less centralized. If you simply skipped the hyperbole and said "it's centralized", I wouldn't have a problem with it.
     
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    If there are no others it is a logical statement that is automatically true.
     
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    It's completely centralized, meaning there's no option for the user to influence or configure it in any way, Tesla holds the keys to everything happening in it. Can't get any more centralized than that. Your other ideas regarding AI show that you don't know what AI means or what it does, as they're either incredibly naive or uneducated or both.
     
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    It's centralized because for every car there sits a little Chinese in Musks headquarter who drives.
     
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  15. Make America Great Again Lady Errorgender: ⚧ Arcane Literally Hitler

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    Yeah, I'll take your word for it. Just like you were 1000% certain Grimoire is never coming out and is a scam, right?
     
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    It is widely regarded as unfinished and rushed, Cleve released the tweaked superdemo.
    You offer no counterargument and no logic. You should stop replying here to avoid embarrassment.
     
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  17. Make America Great Again Lady Errorgender: ⚧ Arcane Literally Hitler

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    I remember how you claimed that it is "a tweaked superdemo" without even playing the game. And yeah, you did leave the Grimoire thread after that to avoid further embarassment. It just shows how you will lie and make up shit just to win arguments on the Internet.

    Your childish claim that I am "uneducated and naive" does not require a counterargument, because it is not an argument in the first place.
     
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    I'm not paying $40 to play a turd.

    You've got yet to address concerns about Musk's hypocrisy. He keeps talking about "dangers of AI" while simultaneously taking an active part in creating oppressive, centralized AI systems. Face it, his goal is to introduce extreme government regulation to create high barriers of entry into the AI business so that all potential competition is nipped in the bud. There are already many dangerous, advanced AI systems that are doing lots of very real harm right this moment. You don't need Musk's terminator killer robots for that. Why isn't he talking about regulating those?
     
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    Then don't pretend to know the scope and content of the game.

    As to Musk, his decentralized AI work goes through a non-profit called OpenAI. And calling the Tesla driving software an "oppressive, centralized AI system" is pretty ridiculous in any case.
     
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    Oh it's "Non-profit" and "open" and "decentralized". Nothing to worry about, nevermind folks, nothing to see here! I'm sure it will totally not be evil, just like Google.
     
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  21. tmuxgender: ⚧ Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Illiterate Possibly Retarded Edgy

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    I'm not pretending: http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/grimoire-heralds-of-the-winged-exemplar
    Really makes you think.

    It's a company that releases products, which mainly consist of various AI learning method benchmarks. Sure it's cool and I'm glad it was released but these tools can very well be used for creating and improving closed-source proprietary AIs, as well as free ones. On top of it, they're far from revolutionary or innovative and don't really progress AI research that much. Musk's spending pocket change to build a certain image and you fell for it hook, line, sinker.

    Why, when it's exactly that? Tesla's AI ultimately controls the car you "license" from them, you're calling the shots but they can take away the controls from you at any moment, and they have many times. They also have access to your location and all sorts of metrics gathered by the car in real time. This is just one example of a centralized AI system that's doing lots of damage right now. Focus on real, actual problems with AI instead of repeating Musk's sci-fi scenarios. Guy's got an agenda and is untrustworthy to say the least. "Outlawing" is a retarded idea for too many reasons to list them.
     
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    Indeed. Just look at all the 10/10 reviews:
    :incline:
     
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    Like WMDs? As in, the pair of fuckheads who spent most of the past 70 years randomly wtfpwning near defenceless enemies every 2 years get fuckloads, out of that pair, the one who keeps 'defending itself' against enemies whose armies haven't even crossed the nearest Ocean, let alone their national border, and has actually used WMDs is appointed 'most responsible WMD decision-making police', and nations who haven't invaded a neighbour in over a century get destroyed if they try to develop the only weapon that poses a credible deterrent if tweedle-Bhaal or tweedle-Cthulu decide that bombing them to dust might give a 2% boost in the polls?

    So...we're nominating Skynet and Agent Smith to enforce the no cyborgs rule? Because I like that idea, and i'll keep on liking it for as long as Im typing this on my geolocating smartphone...:)
     
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    No manual,it is a scam!!!
     
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