Torment Torment: Tides of Numenera Pre-Release Thread [ALPHA RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Roguey]

Day is a legitimate Ultima fan, there's ancient screen name proof and everything.

Wrong.

The Changing God is a powerful being that was once a man

 

[Infinitron]

I think the implication is that he's now transcended mortality to the point that calling him a "man" is absurd. His physical representation could still be masculine though.

 

[Roguey]

In the novella he was a woman.

Spoilers schmoiers, it's been out long enough.

 

[Infinitron]

In the novella he was a woman.

Spoilers schmoiers, it's been out long enough.

"Was" at one point, or "was" as in "is" during the time of the game's plot?

 

[Roguey]

"Was" at one point, or "was" as in "is" during the time of the game's plot?

In the novella itself.

The Last Castoff can also be a woman.

What I'm saying is that The Changing God is constantly changing genders, so very trans.

 

[hiver]

I wonder why are there genders at all.... ONE BILLION YEARS IN THE FUTUUUUUURREEEEE. :makes faces at Fry:

there arent any different human races anymore, its all hybrid brownies. so... how come there are genders?

wouldnt it be better if there wasnt any genders at all?

Its not too late...

 

[Harg Harfardarssen]

"Was" at one point, or "was" as in "is" during the time of the game's plot?

In the novella itself.

The Last Castoff can also be a woman.

What I'm saying is that The Changing God is constantly changing genders, so very trans.

IDK, I thought being trans had to involve some kind of sense that one is really a gender which is at odds with one's birth genitals. It sounds like the Changing God is at the point where a male/female conception of gender is irrelevant to zer identity (instead of having the "wrong" gender identity). So maybe saying the Changing God is genderfree or genderfluid is more accurate.

 

[Roguey]

That means xe is under the trans umbrella.

 

[Harg Harfardarssen]

huh, the moar you know. Non-binary gender identity is an even more complicated flow chart than I thought.

 

[hiver]

If i designed a game billion years in the future the player would be just a blob of barely organic matter, blobbing away in a puddle of blobs.

With turn based blobbing.


...
fuck me blobbing is actually a real word!

 

[tuluse]

That means xe is under the trans umbrella.

Do gender roles even exist in year 1 billion?

(Obviously I know the answer, depends on the culture, kind of fun to think about though)

 

[agentorange]

oh my god shut the fuck up

 

[SCO]

Trap sprung

Too late. Xir're going to get triggered.

 

[A horse of course]

 

[sser]

One billion years in the future we won't even be able to recognize the bodies we currently inhabit. We would be alien to our own ancestors.

 

[Infinitron]

The humans in Numenera haven't been around for a billion years continuously. They've mysteriously reappeared only within the last few millenia.

 

[boobio]

Just letting you guys know about this:

It also seems he's quite serious about it as well.

They should try to get Patrick Stewart. That stunt worked for Bethesda and Patrick could easily play a muscle bound retard with the acting chops of a bolder. He is probably cheaper than Diesel too.

 

[Cadmus]

Just letting you guys know about this:

It also seems he's quite serious about it as well.

They should try to get Patrick Stewart. That stunt worked for Bethesda and Patrick could easily play a muscle bound retard with the acting chops of a bolder. He is probably cheaper than Diesel too.

I would really love for the developers to contact said person instead of venting their idiocy into the twitter void for no reason.

 

[VioletShadow]

The humans in Numenera haven't been around for a billion years continuously. They've mysteriously reappeared only within the last few millenia.

But who can tell how "human" they still are compared to the ones of the past? Some of the past great civilizations that lived on Earth were not human at all (came from space?, created? etc) and it is suggested that they might have um 'mated' with humans(and other species?) producing hybrids, new species whatever. In the ninth world, I assume "human DNA" would be changed/mutated from the DNA of a billion years past to the point that they wouldn't be considered homo sapiens at all, just some X species that resembles us.

 

[thesoup]

Torment: Trannies of Numenera.

 

[hiver]

A nice thought of the day: i wonder if CG ever got pregnant...

 

[Haba]

I would really love for the developers to contact said person instead of venting their idiocy into the twitter void for no reason.

I know that the concept of utilizing social networks may be alien to basement-dwelling autists, but you could at least Google it up. "Does anyone know a guy...?" has worked p. well for the past couple thousand years.

 

[Harg Harfardarssen]

The humans in Numenera haven't been around for a billion years continuously. They've mysteriously reappeared only within the last few millenia.

But who can tell how "human" they still are compared to the ones of the past? Some of the past great civilizations that lived on Earth were not human at all (came from space?, created? etc) and it is suggested that they might have um 'mated' with humans(and other species?) producing hybrids, new species whatever. In the ninth world, I assume "human DNA" would be changed/mutated from the DNA of a billion years past to the point that they wouldn't be considered homo sapiens at all, just some X species that resembles us.

Unless they have "reappeared" not just by re-expanding from some small (or hidden) population but by coming back from extinction. Maybe humans reappeared because crazy ancient supercomputers rebuilt them from their records (such as in the first Viriconium novel). Or maybe they were kept in suspended animation by some collector species of alien. Perhaps some bipedal monsters are actually the "natural" descendents of the humanity of our time (kind of like a reverse dinosaur to bird transition).

In any event, I get the impression that the Numenera setting is only hard sci-fi when it fits the feel Monte Cook is going for. So really, humans could be the same or similar for any reason or even no reason at all, so long as it fits the feel Cook (or the TToN devs) is going for. Probably safest to say the answer is lost to memory and leave it a mystery.

 

[Caconym]

The humans in Numenera haven't been around for a billion years continuously. They've mysteriously reappeared only within the last few millenia.

I'm glad to see that at least someone here actually read the book.

Unless they have "reappeared" not just by re-expanding from some small (or hidden) population but by coming back from extinction. Maybe humans reappeared because crazy ancient supercomputers rebuilt them from their records (such as in the first Viriconium novel). Or maybe they were kept in suspended animation by some collector species of alien.

It is heavily implied that this might be the case, yes.

Perhaps some bipedal monsters are actually the "natural" descendents of the humanity of our time (kind of like a reverse dinosaur to bird transition).

Probably not of our times, but the game's lower-level, more mundane and widespread enemies (the orc/goblinoid- and lizardmen-equivalents if you will) are actually called abhumans as a loose group, meaning they're devolved/mutated humans, bioengineered from human DNA or something similar.

In any event, I get the impression that the Numenera setting is only hard sci-fi when it fits the feel Monte Cook is going for. So really, humans could be the same or similar for any reason or even no reason at all, so long as it fits the feel Cook (or the TToN devs) is going for. Probably safest to say the answer is lost to memory and leave it a mystery.

I wouldn't say it's going for a hard sci-fi in any real fashion, but yeah, you're pretty much correct.

 

[Infinitron]

I haven't really read anything other than Kickstarter updates...