Game News Torment Kickstarter Update #55: Brief Update, Nathan Long Novella Released

[Manmower]

sounds of a cavernous vagina queefing

Don't you have anything better to do than bait strangers on a videogame board? Is your life so utterly empty and devoid of meaning?

 

[Mustawd]

Don't you have anything better to do than bait strangers on a videogame board? Is your life so utterly empty and devoid of meaning?

Wait...are you asking yourself this? I usually like to actually discuss things and make jokes. You're the one going all Hiver/Celerity on everyone like thy're personally insulting you. Then again, I was easily baited at 15 years old as well, so hard to blame you.

 

[Manmower]

more queefing

 

[Mustawd]

Whatever Celerity. We know it's you.

 

[Joni Odin von Hassenstein]

I haven't even played the beta...
Why are players so stupid?

Durrrr von Hurrenstein strikes again.

I don't need to play the beta to know that complaints about "slow pacing" and "too much text" are usually retarded and responsible for yuge decline.

 

[an Administrator]

This "What does one life matter?" sounds a bit.. meh.

 

[Haba]

"What can change the nature of a catchphrase?"

 

[Daedalos]

Looking forward to the next beta update. I expect some great things. And while I wasn't as dissatisfied with the introduction as some here, it could use some work, I'm glad to know that they are taking a look at.

Here's to hopin' the next beta iteration will resemble the final product. The wait is killin'

 

[Joni Odin von Hassenstein]

Can an actual Torment fan describe to me why much text and slow pace are considered a problem?

 

[Daedalos]

Can an actual Torment fan describe to me why much text and slow pace are considered a problem?

The biggest complaint I've seen, is that you as a player, are given too much information as the start of the game, that kind of spoils the "find out what happend for yourself" part.. and the overall "strangeness" of Torment.

People want to find out shit for themselves, instead of some character spoonfeeding you info about the world, and why you're here at the start. Perhaps because, this is the way the orignal Torment was set up.. (I guess)

But as I said, I don't think it was too bad, but a little too much info at the start I guess and the pacing could be improved abit.

 

[Joni Odin von Hassenstein]

Okay, if it is put this way I have some sort of understanding.
What about the pacing thing? I usually like slow pace gaems and movies and hate rushed stuff because "shit has to happen". Is the complaint about T:ToNless stupid?

 

[Trashos]

Happy to hear that the introduction is being reworked. I was not too happy about it when I saw it on a streaming. How hard is it not to frontload RPGs?

 

[prodigydancer]

Wasteland 2 is the worst CRPG I've ever played.

/rolleyes

Seriously, what do you have against WL2? If it weren't TB I'd attribute your rabid hatred to RTwP idiosyncrasy so common among codexians, but since it's not the case I'm really curious. I skimmed through your WL2-related posts and found nothing of substance.

So, care to elaborate finally? Or are you just one of those FO fanboys who simply can't get over the fact that nuclear post-apoc CRPG can succeed without being a carbon copy of Fallout?

 

[Lurker King]

It reeks of low-budget Kickstarted garbage. Just like WL2. Fargo's a fucking conman, and his garbage company still hasn't managed to produce a solid title. .

I love how these newfags think that moronic unwarranted edginess is the bukkake admittance currency.

Newfags think that being super-edgy is the way to fit in the Codex. Why do they think like that?

 

[Daedalos]

Wasteland 2 is the worst CRPG I've ever played.

/rolleyes

Seriously, what do you have against WL2? If it weren't TB I'd attribute your rabid hatred to RTwP idiosyncrasy so common among codexians, but since it's not the case I'm really curious. I skimmed through your WL2-related posts and found nothing of substance.

So, care to elaborate finally? Or are you just one of those FO fanboys who simply can't get over the fact that nuclear post-apoc CRPG can succeed without being a carbon copy of Fallout?

Excidium is just special. A special autistic snowflake. Don't mind him. He probably secretly plays a ton of WL2

 

[Lurker King]

Wasteland 2 is the worst CRPG I've ever played.

Is not a solid cRPG due to the poor combat system and inconsistent design. They tried to implement a lot of reactivity with trash mobs and timesink activities, it doesn’t make sense. But to say that is the worse is just trolling. It is certainly better than most of the games in the top 70 cRPG list.

He has a point, just look the latest games from Fargo or Inxile

The Bard's Tale

Hunted: The Demon's Forge

Choplifter HD

Line Rider

Wasteland 2


With that in mind and after playing the beta, all that we can hope from this game is mediocrity at best, it's not gonna live the hype of the tittle and for sure the game will be ripped to pieces in the codex review.

I disagree, look:


The Bard's Tale (they were desperate for money)

Hunted: The Demon's Forge (they were desperate for money)

Choplifter HD (they were desperate for money)

Line Rider (they were desperate for money)

Wasteland 2 (inconsistent design)


Since T:ToN has a consistent approach from the day one, in the worst scenario will be a “good for what it is” game.

 

[Manmower]

Newfags think that being super-edgy is the way to fit in the Codex. Why do they think like that?

Or maybe they don't give a shit about 'fitting in' and really hate morons who unwittingly serve as apologists for inept devs and inefficient companies?

they were desperate for money

That's no excuse.

 

[prodigydancer]

That's no excuse.

 

[Manmower]

Who am I white-knighting by shitting on crappy devs?

 

[prodigydancer]

Who am I white-knighting by shitting on crappy devs?

Your idealistic world view. I don't think there's anything wrong with that but it's still p. funny.

Money doesn't grow on trees, you know?

 

[Manmower]

Friend, that's not the definition of white knight.

But anyway, yeah, money don't grow on trees, I agree. However, neither do we have an obligation to reward shoddy work with our own hard-earned cash.

 

[TwinkieGorilla]

On one hand, I'm glad they're taking their time instead of dropping a turd like WL2 again...but on the other hand, wasn't this supposed to be done a thousand years ago now?

 

[Abu Antar]

This "What does one life matter?" sounds a bit.. meh.

It does sound a bit "meh" but it all depends on how they decide to implement it in the actual game. They need to give you choices that are actually hard to make.

 

[Excidium II]

Wasteland 2 is the worst CRPG I've ever played.

/rolleyes

Seriously, what do you have against WL2? If it weren't TB I'd attribute your rabid hatred to RTwP idiosyncrasy so common among codexians, but since it's not the case I'm really curious. I skimmed through your WL2-related posts and found nothing of substance.

So, care to elaborate finally? Or are you just one of those FO fanboys who simply can't get over the fact that nuclear post-apoc CRPG can succeed without being a carbon copy of Fallout?

Have you played it? If yes why do I need to elaborate? Quest and area design is pathetic (probably because of the gulf between who designed and who implemented), maps are huge for no reason and filled with copy-pasted encounters (probably because of the early complaints about railroaded area design). Character system is pure shit with redundant stats and assorted bad design like skill points scaling from one stat, quite evidently designed in less than 20 hours by people just willing to replicate typical RPG mechanics. Combat requires no tactics, it's just the same shit always. Add to that a disgrace of an UI that still needed 50 iterations to get there (and got worse with the DC despite claims that console port would not affect PC) horrible camera and muddy 3D graphics that manage to be worse than infinitely better games made by amateur teams of 1-5 people. Wasteland 2 looks and plays like russian shovelware from 2005.

Is not a solid cRPG due to the poor combat system and inconsistent design. They tried to implement a lot of reactivity with trash mobs and timesink activities, it doesn’t make sense. But to say that is the worse is just trolling. It is certainly better than most of the games in the top 70 cRPG list.

No, that is absurd. There's nothing worse than WL2 there. Unless you're that type of codexer that thinks top down perspective (NOT FUCKING ISOMETRIC) projection and turn-based combat makes anything great.

Excidium is just special. A special autistic snowflake. Don't mind him. He probably secretly plays a ton of WL2

Just check my steam account to see last time I played. Wasteland 2 is so bad I asked it to be removed from my account, and it isn't even worth the bandwidth to download a gog version.

I didn't think it would be possible to make something this bad with 30 years of CRPG history to draw from. But there it is.

 

[Manmower]

"What can change the nature of a catchphrase?"

This made me chuckle.

On one hand, I'm glad they're taking their time instead of dropping a turd like WL2 again...but on the other hand, wasn't this supposed to be done a thousand years ago now?

Yup. To be fair, they have Zeits on the team, so here's to hoping he pushes his weight around a bit and delivers something worthwhile. Now if they'd only drop that fat, talentless fuck Pat Rothfuss.

Wasteland 2 looks and plays like russian shovelware from 2005.

Apt. And so very true.