Wizardry The Wizardry Series Thread

[Strange Fellow]

Potions are always a good idea. Whether you "need" them or not depends on your setup. In my last wiz 8 run I had only one pure caster, and I was gulping potions like there was no tomorrow. What else are you going to spend your money on?

 

[Shadenuat]

Wiz8 is too generous with consumables, and they are very easy to steal/buy, even stuff like resurrect powders. OTOH battles there are way longer and you actually tend to use them. Unless you have something broken like female Bard self-replenishing herself with stamina lute and casting all-heals.

Honestly I'd restrict some powders in Wiz8 to Alchemist/Ninja/Ranger with high Artifacts skill only.

 

[Grampy_Bone]

Inventory space too limited in Wiz 7. Potions go in the trash. Never had much issue. Only consumable I used was a Mana stone w/ infinite recharges.

 

[Shadenuat]

Had no trouble with inventory space. 20 slots/character + stacking. Usually have minimum of one dude just empty except equipment.

 

[Strange Fellow]

You should try a game that doesn't let you drop crucial quest items, ever.

Spoiler

 

[Shadenuat]

That certainly would have made gazebo in New City after my party cleaner. All that munk meat and used up maps for hints must stink by now.

 

[Strange Fellow]

Seriously though, is it possible to drop items that are crucial to winning the game? Are there even such items? Shadenuat, anything the game won't let you drop so far?

 

[Shadenuat]

You can't sell crucial items. But dropping, I believe you can drop anything.

But while I am casual enough to /irony carefully buy and stack useful consumables /irony, I am not stupid enough to not put every even dumbest item only in one place which is the *gazebo* just like I do in adventure games with inventories/other rpgs

Thankfully most items you find you use them somewhere not far away, the maps cost 10000 so obviously I have 1 character dedicated to maps&*keys*, some game just outright states THIS WILL HELP AT END OF THE GAME KEEP IT, but some piss me off to no end like that hair comb from newbie dungeon with ravens which triggers me sitting in my inventory with it's "?" item icon after 50 hours of playtime.

 

[Strange Fellow]

You can't sell crucial items. But dropping, I believe you can drop anything.

Thanks

But while I am casual enough to /irony carefully buy and stack useful consumables /irony, I am not stupid enough to not put every even dumbest item only in one place which is the *gazebo* just like I do in adventure games with inventories/other rpgs

So items remain forever where you drop them? That's convenient.

 

[Shadenuat]

Yeah I once returned to some place where I dropped a scroll in the beginning of the game and it was there. After that, I began building up my treasure hoard of "may need later" things. So far I didn't return for anything I already used to solve something tho.

 

[Darth Canoli]

i never did

why would you

You don't buy a potion, you are the potion !
That's the point of RPG with magic.

Of course, you can hoard the ones you find, just in case the healer dies.

 

[Shadenuat]

Well, recently I had a choice on level up between cure disease,

or fucking Asphyxiation that kills 25 t'rang in one cast

guess what did I choose and what potions I am keeping.

 

[calgary.alberta]

https://youtu.be/QlrZ9laBOwI

Spoiler - Wizardry: Proving Grounds of the Mad Overlord final fight and ending.

Tools: Where are we?

I know, however, I find these types of tools really take some of the pain in the ass out of this game. It's long enough and hard enough as it is.

 

[octavius]

Pffff!!! Wiz 1 is short and sweet; only 8 rather small levels.

BTW, does "Where are we" detect spinners and hidden doors for you?

And how did you manage to get a Ninja? Did you find a certain item?

 

[calgary.alberta]

That was pure luck, I was grinding out on the 10th level and found the Thieves Dagger that turned my Thief finally into a Ninja.

Where are we, has spinners and everything

Yes, it wasn't as long of a game as I thought it might be.

 

[Shadenuat]

60 hours
level 18+(? lost count)
ninja equipment from master of flowers and 2 unique swords still in inventory
check manual again. need piety 10.
piety still 9.

Spoiler

it's okay. you tried. maybe in next life(game).

we don need dumb elites in 8th anyway. maybe be bard or mechanic multi.

 

[octavius]

Ah Jason Liang , you have gone from shit posting, to shit polling and now you have reached the end of my paticence with shit rating.

 

[Jason Liang]

Ah Jason Liang , you have gone from shit posting, to shit polling and now you have reached the end of my paticence with shit rating.

I couldn't ignore your stupid Wizardry has 8 levels fiction.

 

[aweigh]

Grid-based tile movement is superior and the best way to make a dungeon-crawler.

Skill point systems are usually a waste of the player's time.

In Elminage and Wizardry it is your character's race that determines the usefulness of their Attribute spread due to the Racial maximum +10 points cap on each Attribute.

For example in Elminage: Gothic a Human Fighter can reach 18 STRENGTH, but a Dwarf Fighter can reach 23 STRENGTH, and those 5 extra STR points translate to an extra +25-30% damage on the top end of the DMG roll. An extra +30% DMG in the end-game dungeons in E: Gothic can be the difference between killing an enemy in 1 round, or having to wait until Round #2 to strike it again... and that means the enemy will get an opportunity to Petrify entire party with a breath or decapitate a few peeps because you couldn't kill it in the opening salvo.

Same with INT (determines % of spells afflicting enemy status or of penetrating a spell barrier).
Same with PIE (determines % of HP recovered, and probability % of successful resurrection spells).
Same with AGI (determines the all-important turn-order).

So on and so forth. You'd think therefore the best Mage would be an Elf with its maximum 22 INT, but if you decide instead to go with a Werebeast Mage, although only reaching 18 INT, the Werebeast has much higher AGILITY: and a Mage with high AGILITY gets to go faster in the turn-order which means possibly Sleep'ing the enemies before they get to attack, for example.

 

[Grampy_Bone]

need piety 10.

There is a vendor in the sky city which sells Ankhs for permanent stat boosts. But I'm not sure if they sell a piety ankh.

 

[Darth Canoli]

For example in Elminage: Gothic [...]

When did Elminage Gothic become a reference ?
Last time i checked, it had a bad dungeon design, no city exploration, offered an extremely linear experience and was extremely repetitive.
Still, i almost enjoyed it due to the lack of Blobbers but please, don't elminage Gothic us.

 

[Grampy_Bone]

no city exploration

 

[Jason Liang]

Elminage Gothic just makes the problems with pure blobbers extremely evident.

Blobber mixed with another genre like VN (Rance VI) has redeemable qualities.

 

[Strange Fellow]

 

[Average Manatee]

TIL-TO-WA-IT

"Prompt wind light release" ??

Hmm.

It's a very high level skill, many will never master.