Tacticular Cancer: We'll have your balls

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The Risen 2 Thread

Discussion in 'Mainstream AAA+ RPG Discussion' started by Syril, Apr 23, 2012.

  1. Raghar Savant

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    And pirate version has all three.
  2. Stabwound Cipher

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    Does this game work well with a gamepad? Not to be a decliner, but I've been looking for a good game to chill out with on the couch now that I have my PC attached to my TV. I haven't been able to find any PC RPGs that are both good and work with a controller. Risen 1 didn't even though it had console ports, the UI was completely different and unsuitable for a controller in the PC version.
  3. Zed RPG Codex Staff

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    I "tried" it for an hour. Glad I won't have to buy it (which I would, had I liked it). I didn't experience performance/graphics issues - the game ran fine.

    I guess I just wanted a new Gothic-like game, not a continuation of Risen. I don't remember any of the returning characters and I even feel distanced to the player character himself. It's the same problem I had with the Witcher 2.

    Dialogue is shit (maybe they should have hired Rhianna Pratchett again :rolleyes: ), combat is shit (3-attack combo, 100 year cooldown pistol, fun), thieving is shit (immortal guards, shit AI), the follower woman is shit (uninteresting as a character and useless in combat), all the NPCs are shit, the pirate theme is shit and using paths rather than open exploration is shit.

    The game does a piss-poor job of making you actually want to explore the game - to play just "to see what happens next".

    I didn't give it much of a chance but I just really thought everything about it sucked.
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    Hmm, things seem to be looking grim.

    Personally, I enjoyed Risen, and was looking forward to another experience on similar terms (hopefully improved...) but nobody is coming back with anything good to say about this game. I won't even comment on the DRM and DLC...

    Even Trash, who is usually quite forgiving with games (at least initially) doesn't exactly paint a picture with shining colours...
  5. Metro Magister

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    villain of the story Brofists this.
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    I've played for about 5 hours now. It's a PB game and it's a successor to Risen, pretty unmistakably so. Combat does seem to be dumbed down a little bit from Risen 1, in that it's too easy to stunlock 'standard' animal opponents, but otherwise I'm still dying all the time on hard. And yes, there is a fair bit of exploration in the first island. It is slightly more closed off than Risen 1, I think, but not much more. But the core stuff - hard combat, always in need of money/etc, PB-style sod-off-tosser dialogue, faction go-between (thus far), is all there, and the game looks and plays OK without any major bugs for me. Really liking it thus far, though I haven't seen anything that tops Risen 1.

    My impressions may change, but I love people who try a PB game, of all things, for an hour then think it sucks. Every first hour of a PB game is basically wandering around confused as you get used to the clunkiness and get yourself killed a lot while you have no skills to speak of. Here, it's that, plus an extra fifteen minutes of 'introductions'.
  7. Nim Scholar

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    Or maybe they have played all other PB games and can already see where this is going from one hour playing ?
    I just started "demoing" and I've already seen a bunch of lol stuff that just tells me this is unlikely to be better than Risen which was not that great.

    Jump of the docks/beach into water, screen goes black and get teleported back. No mantling, jumping seems weird. PB still cannot into female anatomy/faces, the whole introduction of Patty had me rofling. Starting in a city that seems to be half burning without explanation or anyone caring. "Ursegor and Ismael are still fighting", "Mara sent her Kraken" and I'm just thinking who ? Oh, they are Titan Lords, right :confused: NPCs can't be looted ?
  8. Tigranes Cipher

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    I think it's pretty obvious that everything you listed in the second paragraph is trivial. But I guess people can make up their minds as to whether having an awkward in media res introduction or shitty looking women is that important.

    NPCs can be looted, obviously.
  9. Metro Magister

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    'Faction go-between' without the ability of the PC to join a faction. :decline:
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    It's pretty much the same as Risen with a 15 minute introduction that feels forced and a pirate theme tacked on. Very much a PB game but the DLC pisses me off and I'm still curious to see if it's as typical as to turn into a dungeon crawler halfway through.
  11. Outlander Custom Tags Are For Fags. Patron

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    You'll see for yourself soon enough that a gamepad will never be better than M/K on PC. Except maybe for some 2D plataformers.

    I use my controller to play the shit outta MAME and SNES roms, though, lots of fun to be had there.
  12. Kraszu Savant

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    Not after you had beaten them in combat, you can only help them to get up.
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  14. Nattvardsvin Learned

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    So there doesn't seem to be any way to dodge attacks(or am I missing something?), only parry them. But against creatures like Sand Devils, all you can do is mash attack, which is a bit weird.
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    Uninstall.
    hoverdog Brofists this.
  17. Nattvardsvin Learned

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    :lol:
    But seriously, no way to properly dodge.

    Which is funny, because an NPC tells you that you should dodge the warthogs when they charge at you, before attacking them.
    Which is like in the old Gothic games, you got useful tips from NPCs about how to efficiently kill different creatures. But in those games it worked, because the combat mechanics involved easy ways of dodging and avoiding attacks. Backstepping, sidestepping etc.
    Here, you have to run awkwardly away to "dodge" and that doesn't work very well at all.

    They could have implemented something like pressing the back button two times while holding the parry button makes you step back or something similar.
  18. Elwro RPG Codex Staff Patron

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    I can't even run the game. After the introductory message ending with "the prophecy is fulfilled" the screen goes black and that's it. But the thing does not hang the whole PC, I just alt-tabbed to write this post. Any pointers?
  19. Nattvardsvin Learned

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    Have you waited for a while?
    I had a black screen when first starting but it went away after some time.
  20. Elwro RPG Codex Staff Patron

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    Well, I waited for a few minutes, than decided to bang the keyboard a few more times before killing the process, and voila, the game worked. Jesus Christ...

    also, it seems PB have done their best to scare new players away by the opening sequence which (high details) looks as if done in 2005; especially Patty's model is downright scary. Honestly, it does not look better than Risen and at times seems to look worse.

    but of course I will forgive these unimportant bits if this is a true PB game ;)
  21. Butcer Educated

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    My first impressions are that this game is total suckfest and this is coming from a guy who did beat Gothic 4 and im less "impressed" by the start of Risen 2 then gothic 4 but gothic 4 does not get really bad until chapter 3, Gothic 4 progressively get's worse by every level , I sure hope RIsen 2 does not follow that path
  22. Alexandros Arbiter

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    Definitely persuasion.
  23. Konjad Magister Patron

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    So far I nearly finished the first island and got on board of the pirate's ship. So far the game looks pretty good and similar to Risen. I don't like combat much, but it's not annoying so I'm okay with it. The story is a bit derp, I mean - find a magical weapon to kill the Kraken?

    What the :mhd:
  24. Jack █▓▒░

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    So if the story is derpy, dialogue shitty, combat dumbed down, graphics aged and exploration out of the window what's left?
    villain of the story Brofists this.
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    Same guy that liked DA2.

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