The Mystery of NOLF's IP Rights

[Sceptic]

"We don't know if we have the rights, but we will destroy you if you if infringe on our property".

There should be a "good will" law somewhere. If you repeatedly contact someone who you think own a copyright, and they repeatedly show no interest in actually checking if they do, and then they decide to sue you when you do start using the copyright, the judge should just throw out the case on the basis that they're fucking lazy assholes.

 

[Icewater]

"We don't know if we have the rights, but we will destroy you if you if infringe on our property".

There should be a "good will" law somewhere. If you repeatedly contact someone who you think own a copyright, and they repeatedly show no interest in actually checking if they do, and then they decide to sue you when you do start using the copyright, the judge should just throw out the case on the basis that they're fucking lazy assholes.

+1

The point of copyright is [supposedly] to foster innovation, not impede it. Time to start acting like it.

 

[Destroid]

"We don't know if we have the rights, but we will destroy you if you if infringe on our property".

There should be a "good will" law somewhere. If you repeatedly contact someone who you think own a copyright, and they repeatedly show no interest in actually checking if they do, and then they decide to sue you when you do start using the copyright, the judge should just throw out the case on the basis that they're fucking lazy assholes.

+1

The point of copyright is [supposedly] to foster innovation, not impede it. Time to start acting like it.

Wouldn't innovation be inventing a new IP rather than borrowing one someone else created?

 

[Icewater]

In the Age of Declinadence, innovation is preserving old stuff.

 

[J_C]

who gives a shit, both games have tons of fucking annoying missions
I liked the ideas and the style but the gameplay was annoying most of the time.

Joined: Dec 28, 2013

Anyway, the easiest way to find out who the owner is: Make a few concept arts and start making NOLF3 on kickstarter. The first company who sends you a cease and desist letter is the owner. :D

 

[Cadmus]

who gives a shit, both games have tons of fucking annoying missions
I liked the ideas and the style but the gameplay was annoying most of the time.

Joined: Dec 28, 2013

Anyway, the easiest way to find out who the owner is: Make a few concept arts and start making NOLF3 on kickstarter. The first company who sends you a cease and desist letter is the owner. :D

dued go play the fuken unicycle chase scene and tell me it's fun

 

[imweasel]

Such a shame, because I really love NOLF. Stop being a total dick, Warner Brothers. Work this shit out so that the games can be rereleased.

dued go play the fuken unicycle chase scene and tell me it's fun

It was fucking awesome and hilarious. One of the best parts of the game.

 

[Xenich]

Wouldn't innovation be inventing a new IP rather than borrowing one someone else created?

If innovation were constrained to only that of unique ideas, we would still be living in the dark ages. Innovation is often a result of the inspiration of a previous idea or production.

I would say the current laws and behaviors of many as it concerns copyright these days are why we have stagnated (as opposed to early progress in them) in some fields.

Ideas should be protected so that the innovator can see it to fruition, but it should not guarantee indefinite rights to such.

 

[Carrion]

It was fucking awesome and hilarious. One of the best parts of the game.

This.

NOLF is one of the most consistent shooters there is, fucking great from start to finish with barely any weaker moments in the mix. About half of the sequel is filler, but the rest is so good that it makes up for it.

 

[Cadmus]

Ok, I have the original disc for Nolf 2 around here somewhere so I'll install and see if my memory has betrayed me, but I just remember being annoyed most of the time.

 

[Eyeball]

NOLF 1 is one of the best first person games ever.

NOLF 2 is inferior in every way. Contract JACK is an abomination.

 

[ghostdog]

"We don't know if we have the rights WTF you're talking about, but we will destroy you if you if infringe on our property".

*what they're actually thinking*

 

[A horse of course]

It'll probably get to a point where the game becomes so obscure that nobody really bothers trying to make it work on modern systems, and what few torrents remain of a title aren't worth downloading since nobody can run it. This is the unfortunate fate of more than a few post-DOS titles.

The moral of the story here is that you should pay full price for every new game and play them immediately on the most powerful rig possible, so as not to dilute the dev's artistic vision.

 

[Endemic]

Ah, NOLF. Antagonising the sexist UNITY officer (Smith) constantly during the briefings was a nice touch. :p

There is also a PS2 port if you can stomach using a controller.

 

[Werdna's Revenge]

Never played NOLF. Oh well, if I ever feel inclined than this saga shows that it is truly abandonware.

 

[zwanzig_zwoelf]

who gives a shit, both games have tons of fucking annoying missions
I liked the ideas and the style but the gameplay was annoying most of the time.

Morocco is the only annoying part.
Can't shoot the fucking monkey.

 

[DeepOcean]

Is it worthy to play NOLF full stealth or shoot all the way up? I'm having a hard time with the stealth mechanics and enemies get aware of you way too fast.

 

[Infinitron]

Is it worthy to play NOLF full stealth or shoot all the way up? I'm having a hard time with the stealth mechanics and enemies get aware of you way too fast.

Just shoot, you'll bore yourself senseless trying to stealth your way through with coin throwing and shit

 

[ERYFKRAD]

who gives a shit, both games have tons of fucking annoying missions
I liked the ideas and the style but the gameplay was annoying most of the time.

Morocco is the only annoying part.
Can't shoot the fucking monkey.

Oh right.

 

[Carrion]

Is it worthy to play NOLF full stealth or shoot all the way up? I'm having a hard time with the stealth mechanics and enemies get aware of you way too fast.

Just shoot, you'll bore yourself senseless trying to stealth your way through with coin throwing and shit

There are various levels of stealth. Ghosting is often (but not always) a hopeless endeavor, but you can beat nearly all of the missions without setting off the alarm, for example.

The correct way to play it is to be as stealthy as possible, making use of all of your expensive spy toys and silenced weapons, and then massacre everything once shit eventually hits the fan.

 

[Infinitron]

RPS is now openly advocating that people download a NOLF abandonware release: https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/20...ell-no-one-lives-forever-so-lets-download-it/

Let's see if anything happens.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Is it worthy to play NOLF full stealth or shoot all the way up? I'm having a hard time with the stealth mechanics and enemies get aware of you way too fast.

Just shoot, you'll bore yourself senseless trying to stealth your way through with coin throwing and shit

You only need to stealth long enough to listen to the hilarious conversations. Once those are done you can just go in full Rambo mode.

 

[Lyric Suite]

NOLF 1 is one of the best first person games ever.

NOLF 2 is inferior in every way. Contract JACK is an abomination.

Agreed.

BUT, by modern standards NOLF 2 is gud and even Contract JACK is decent enough for a play through.

 

[Atlantico]

Very nice, I guess this is the only way to get these games now. Lawyers can be such retards (I know I am)

 

[Volrath]

NOLF is probably the greatest FPS of all time.