Tacticular Cancer: We'll have your balls

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The most money-grubbing kickstarter yet (PSP JRPG by Victor Ireland)

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by Stabwound, Mar 30, 2012.

  1. Stabwound Magister

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    I'm not sure how many people here are familiar with Victor Ireland, the former president of Working Designs, a company that brought over a lot of JRPGs to North America. His work and his company were always controversial, because he'd add tons of stupid pop culture references to the games and other silly shit.

    Anyway, he recently launched a kickstarter for the PSP blobber RPG Class of Heroes 2. The thing is, he's asking for $500,000 and the success or failure of the kickstarter doesn't mean shit for the game itself. The game was always going to be released, and it will be even if the kickstarter fails.

    http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1272149684/class-of-heroes-2-deluxe-for-the-psp-system

    Even if you aren't familiar with the game, it won't take more than one look at the kickstarter to see what's wrong with it. The only thing this kickstarter is for is so that he can pad his ego and release a "collector's edition" of the game full of landfill-filling junk like his previous games. Now, to be fair, if you're a fan of collector's editions then Working Designs games were by far the best. They put a lot of work into the extras, unlike most collectors editions these days.

    But, the only reason for the kickstarter is so that he can pad his ego and be paid in advance. There is no way in hell a game this niche is going to make him $500,000 in profit, but that's what he's asking for in the kickstarter. The game is coming out no matter what; he already bought the rights to release it.

    The stupidest thing about it is that you don't get a copy of the game until you hit the $60 + shipping tier. No PSP game costs $60, and if he paid any attention to the WL2 and DF kickstarters, the "cheap preorder" tier was by far the most popular. But no, you get a hearty thanks if you donate anything less than $60, AKA giving the guy money for no reason.

    Let's summarize:

    -He wants $500,000
    -You get absolutely nothing of value until you donate $60 + foreigner shipping tax, ridiculous for a PSP game
    -This is an obscure niche blobber game for a dead system, the sequel to a very flawed and not well recieved game
    -The game is going to be released even if the kickstarter isn't funded, and since it will be a digital download it will be probably 1/2 the price you have to pay here to get the game

    Now, I actually want the game and think the original was a good Wizardry knockoff, if not flawed. However, this kickstarter is just a total pile of bullshit. The graphics are totally animu and it will turn people off right away, but the gameplay itself is basically a Wizardry 1-5 clone.
    Damned Registrations Brofists this.
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  2. Damned Registrations Prestigious Gentleman Furry Weeaboo Nazi Nihilist

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    I can sort of understand the premise behind simply asking for donations this way. If fans want to see the game and are willing to donate a bit extra for it, there's nothing wrong with facillitating that. I'd happily donate for a roguelike if I thought it looked good and had the change to spare, regardless of whether it was going to be funded anyways. I donated money to the 'dex and functionally got nothing at all for it. There's a space for this kind of thing.

    That said, this reeks of marketing and manipulation. Especially charging that much for the game itself. Actual cost of the hard copy game aside, it's well within their means to sell the game digitally. Fuck, sony wants to build their entire next handheld platform on the concept.

    Here's hoping this one dies in a fire, simply because it might help to scare off publishers from such blatant cash grabs and make them think a bit more about why people are funding these things.
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  3. Mangoose Arcane Patron

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    Well the thing is, the more money you ask, the less likely it will be funded by the deadline. On the one hand, definitely a money-grub (not disagreeing with anything in the OP), but on the other hand, also a gamble.
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  4. felipepepe Prestigious Gentleman Codex's Heretic Patron

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    Still the guy is going quite well:

    398 Backers
    $38,121 pledged of $500,000 goal

    Had he got a more modest goal and better tier rewards, it would surelly get funded.
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  5. sgc_meltdown Arcane

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    then I went to their website to check out their extended awards

    You know what separates this 50k top tier reward and the second highest 25k reward?
    GETTING TO BE A CHARACTER.

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  6. Stabwound Magister

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    Yeah, I was only spurred to post about it because I saw how well it was doing. $40,000 in less than 48 hours isn't bad, I guess.

    Reading some of the comments from Vic Ireland, the whole kickstarter really is about the collectors edition crap. Apparently it only makes financial sense to have the stuff produced if you're going to do more than 7000 of them, which is basically the cost of this kickstarter plus some extra.

    I wouldn't say that this isn't going to get funded, but not offering a cheap preorder/digital download is really dropping the ball. I'd go in for a $10 or $15 copy of the game, but setting $60 + shipping as the lowest tier to get the game is a killer mistake. Especially when you know you can just wait until the game is released and buy it for probably $20.
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  7. Multi-headed Cow Arcane

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    :what:
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  8. RPGMaster Learned

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    Fuckin' Irish.

    I'd pay for a kickstarter to send Schafer and Fargo over there to kick him in the balls.
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  9. Destroid Arcane

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    Hasn't backed any projects and not kicking it forward, tsk tsk.
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    Guys, when kickstarter will be available in Europe (hopefully it finally will), I'm gonna start one for an atomic bomb to nuke Bethesda. I'm sure Russians can build one pretty cheap.
    villain of the story and LeStryfe79 Brofist this.
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    Serpent in the Staglands Dead State Divinity: Original Sin
    it was pretty much the worst commercial (if not evah!) wizardry clone. symmetric dungeon floors, randomized dungeon floors with fixed layouts and no multifloor puzzles, shallow dungeons, stupid story, and infinite spellpoints due to sp swapping and sp regeneration. in essence it was a shitty game made to cash in on the etrian odyssey and dark spire hype.
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    You know what must be done.
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  13. Renegen Prophet

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    I read this kickstarter yesterday and what a joke it was. I hope this fails extremely hard.
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    Victor Ireland cannot be a real name.
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    Your in game character will be named "Broke Moron", who will beg the PC for a handout because they foolishly spent all their money on having their visage inserted into some rinky dink community portrait.
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  16. sea Prestigious Gentleman I support InXile

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    I think "moral disgust" is a good descriptor of how I feel. It's not the guy's goals I care about, it's the obvious contempt for the player bass, the clearly inflated ego of the man behind it, and the suspicion that this is abusing the fundamental idea of Kickstarter in the first place. All those starving artists who want to make their dream projects - fuck you, I've got a day job, just give me some extra money anyway. You might even get something back if you're "generous" enough!
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  17. Father Walker Potato Ranger

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    No. No. No. Bomb Bioware instead. I'm sure Beth would craft a damn good game in one of those Siberian work camps (we could arrange one from the kickstarter money).
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  18. Menckenstein Lunacy of Caen: Todd Reaver

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    PSP, Steam and no game <100$... Three reasons to say GTFO with this animu shit. :smug:
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  20. Stabwound Magister

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    Well, its slowed down considerably at only 10% of the goal after the first 3 days. Unless some miracle of media attention happens, this is thankfully not going to be funded.
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    Unless he already has backers set up to transfer funds at set points in the process :smug:
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  22. circ Arcane

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    EHEHEHEEH.

    EHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE

    EHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE

    EHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE

    YOUR NAME WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE CODE

    IN THE CODE

    OH LAWD ALMIGHTY IN THE CODE

    I'M GETTING A LITTLE STIFFY
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    Some people just have too much money.
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  25. Malpercio Learned

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    Shall we start a kickstarter to kick this guy in the balls?
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